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― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 17:23 (four years ago) link
Lots of good links on here, thanks. Here's the xpost excellent James Burton interview:https://www.npr.org/2019/09/03/757066866/elvis-guitarist-james-burton-i-went-professional-when-i-was-14 with a mention of the new monster box Elvis: Live 1969.
― dow, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 17:27 (four years ago) link
lol Grisso.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 17:28 (four years ago) link
Year he ascended the come-back launched in Ded. '68, subsuming country and all his other genres/subgenres, a la Dylan and The Band, electric Miles, etc.
― dow, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 17:28 (four years ago) link
Goddammit they skirted Glen Campbell entirely by classifying him as a pop singer and I’m fkn PISSED― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, September 24, 2019 12:49 AM (fifteen hours ago)
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, September 24, 2019 12:49 AM (fifteen hours ago)
I'm holding out hope that they return to Glen for "Rhinestone Cowboy" -- that was a giant hit. Perhaps it shows up in the Ronnie Milsap section where we see how popularized country had become by the mid-70s. Opportunity there to talk about his evolution from Square-Jawed Purveyor of Jimmy Webb Songs to Cocaine-Riddled Beardo Fighting With Tanya Tucker.
― Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 20:36 (four years ago) link
Aren’t there like two hours reserved at the end for Johnny Cash’s Rick Rubin comeback?
― The Hillbilly Chespirito (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 20:39 (four years ago) link
i always sort of thought of glen campbell as basically a pop star too, there i said it
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 20:41 (four years ago) link
Yes, Cash's Rubin recordings get a lot of time, though Rubin isn't interviewed, which is too bad -- it would've been nice to hear why he chose to work with Cash, and his perceptions of how Cash's fans, and the country audience at large, would receive the records. And no, they don't return to Glen Campbell; the only coverage he gets is the couple of sentences and few seconds of "Wichita Lineman" in episode 6 or 7.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 20:53 (four years ago) link
"Country" and "pop" are the "this is Jazz" and "hey, that's not Jazz!" of this series, apparently.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 20:54 (four years ago) link
Unless there was more in the front half of ep 4 (which I missed), but it seems like Jim Reeves and Ray Price got a similar treatment, except spread out in pithy bits over a couple of shows.
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 21:05 (four years ago) link
Cash's Rubin recordings get a lot of time
this is disappointing idgaf about those records personally
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 21:17 (four years ago) link
ray price was a giant
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 21:21 (four years ago) link
Indeed, glad I got to see him live when he finally ventured north after a long hiatus.
― The Hillbilly Chespirito (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 21:31 (four years ago) link
Think he was Hank Williams’s roommate for a bit and started out as kind of a Hank clone, beehive it or not.
― The Hillbilly Chespirito (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 21:33 (four years ago) link
They <did> mention that! Price was quite the Honky-Tonker before embracing balladeering.
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 21:34 (four years ago) link
Rick Kienzle's Southwest Shuffle: Pioneers of Honky-Tonk, Western Swing, and Country Jazz starts at a peak, then tracks the adaptation, or lack thereof, of adventurous country artists to the rise of rock & roll and The Nashville Sound and Countrypolitan, yeesh. Ray Price made a comeback into honky tonk with a strong beat, rallying the more mobile geezers and even some rock-tending kiddos---then he decided he did wanna go genteel, making his road dawg band learn them weepers (also sometimes crammed some lounge string players etc. into the clubs) And you out there in the audience, you better 'preciate it! Interesting story.What the hell, he and the audience survived. Later did some good albums with his former teen bass player, Willie Nelson.
― dow, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 00:17 (four years ago) link
Was just trying to think of that book. Believe it may have a chapter on Jimmy Wyble.
― The Hillbilly Chespirito (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 00:32 (four years ago) link
Guy Clark!
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 00:39 (four years ago) link
No Doug Sahm, huh.
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 01:23 (four years ago) link
They did Ray Price dirty, no question
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 02:01 (four years ago) link
xpost Hi James, I don't remember there being a whole chapter about Jimmy Wyble, but he's def in there---says he got to play on the wonderful Frank Sinatra - Live in Australia With the Red Norvo Quintet (1959), which may have gotten lost; didn't come out 'til 97, on Blue Note, where it belongs. Everybody's so happy and excited, how can they do the lonely cosmic ballads right? Well, they do! Helps that it's also the many moods of Frank, and one of his jazziest ever, with no need for an orchestra. Jest doin' what comes natcherly.
― dow, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 03:29 (four years ago) link
Have they mentioned Freddy Fender?
― dow, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 03:32 (four years ago) link
Yeah. He and Johnny Rodriguez share a segment.
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 03:37 (four years ago) link
a highlight tonight was Billy Sherrill yelling at George Jones "that's 'Help Me Make It Through The Night' ... FOOL!" when Jones kept singing Kristofferson's melody while recording "He Stopped Loving Her Today"
― alpine static, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 06:59 (four years ago) link
For those who don't think of Glen Campbell as Country:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jah3hg119g
― The Hillbilly Chespirito (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 10:18 (four years ago) link
(Note: this time I spared you the British Guitarist Reacting to this)
― The Hillbilly Chespirito (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 11:55 (four years ago) link
So when Bob Wills interjects “Domino!” what the heck if anything does this mean exactly? Part of me wants to think it is some Victorian formulation for some more intense oath perhaps akin to Héctor Lavoe saying “diablo!”
― The Hillbilly Chespirito (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 13:02 (four years ago) link
(I want to believe!)
― The Hillbilly Chespirito (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 13:03 (four years ago) link
A minced oath, if you will. Oh, I think I just figured it out. D’oh!
― The Hillbilly Chespirito (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 13:07 (four years ago) link
Using George Jones' collapse into alcoholism and homelessness and resurrection with "He Stopped Loving Her Today" to frame the era of last night's episode was pretty masterful ... similar to how Cash's fall and redemption were covered in the previous episode. Also, Ray Benson's chortling while talking about the utter chaos of Willie's July 4th picnics was priceless. I also got chills with the Roy Acuff film on the screen being lifted to reveal the new Opry crowd. That was an all-time moment right there.
― Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 13:16 (four years ago) link
Controversial opinion perhaps: was Emmylou Harris necessary? or all the minutes devoted to Gram Parsons?
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 14:03 (four years ago) link
Gram had to be talked about to set up Emmylou, who was necessary. I would've spent less time doing that (with Gram), though.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 14:14 (four years ago) link
I may be ignorant here, but the documentary posits her as a Turning Point in the '70s that I've never read anywhere (nor do her albums bear this out).
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 14:16 (four years ago) link
I would have given more than 60 seconds to the likes of Barbara Mandrell, Kenny Rogers, and Dottie West.
Mandrell was basically the female Marty Stuart ffs.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 14:16 (four years ago) link
exactly!
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 14:17 (four years ago) link
Emmylou seems more relevant in this context than Gram, but it's a fair question why she gets so much time while other artists much more central to the 70s country charts are ignored or passed over too quickly.
One obvious example: Conway Twitty (though personally I'd rather hear Emmylou than Conway in his 70s loverman mode)
― Brad C., Wednesday, 25 September 2019 14:18 (four years ago) link
I was a wee boy in the 70s, so I don't know. I will say that the utter ubiquity of Emmylou records for cheap prices must mean they sold shitloads when released.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 14:19 (four years ago) link
I guess Eddie Rabbitt is going to ignored entirely. Oh well.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 14:25 (four years ago) link
i'm definitely not an expert but even i thought they spent a *lot* of time on Emmylou.
― alpine static, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 15:48 (four years ago) link
Emmylou is pretty important for setting the table for the New Tradionalists, helping popularize songs by Van Zandt & Crowell, and later on basically saving the Ryman from the, er, wrecking ball.
She also sold tons of records in the '70s to audiences outside the Country spectrum.
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 15:50 (four years ago) link
otoh I'm glad Rosanne Cash got a spot: a crucial precursor to hot country even if she prefers to be regarded for her Americana stuff.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 15:51 (four years ago) link
Self XP Of course, I think it's also weird that they completely sidestepped Linda Ronstadt, unless Trio is covered in the finale.
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 15:54 (four years ago) link
Gauging the bent they're taking towards the modern era, I 100% expect Trio to be covered.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 15:58 (four years ago) link
Hanging out at Guy Clark's house seems like a good time, btw.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 15:59 (four years ago) link
Also, Hazel Smith reminds me so much of basically every woman on my mom's side of the family. Watching her speak is a joy. R.I.P.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 16:03 (four years ago) link
XP Have you seen Heartworn Highways? Like a 1/4 of it is hanging at Guy Clark's house!
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 16:04 (four years ago) link
No mention of Trio whatsoever, unless it was briefly mentioned and I missed it. I too assumed it would be talked about, especially considering how much time they spent on Dolly and Emmylou in the earlier episodes. Hell, it even felt like they'd set it up: they had Dolly going to Hollywood, so Trio would've been a perfect back-to-the-roots bookend.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 16:09 (four years ago) link
Wow, shocked!
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 16:10 (four years ago) link
a way bigger hit than The Highwaymen too
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 16:11 (four years ago) link
you know what back-to-the-roots country album is better than trio?
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/33/K.d._lang_-_Shadowland.jpg
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 16:14 (four years ago) link