END TO END BERNERS: The Official Bernie Sanders 2020 Crew thread

I just don’t like the “total war” tenor of these debates on social media, with the two campa of supporters accusing each other of the worst things possible.

― treeship., Wednesday, October 2, 2019 2:16 PM (seventeen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Yup. I ride for Bernie, but if Warren gets the nom, she'll still be by far the best democratic nominee in my voting life in terms of aligning with my politics, so I'd really rather not tear her down completely, especially since I do think the stakes of getting Trump out of office are higher than just moving politics to the left. The Native American issue is real and I'm not minimizing it, but also (1) she apologized, and (2) the actual amount of harm done is pretty minimal.

I like Bernie but Bernie or die supporters need to reign it the fuck in. holy shit.

NARRATOR: they did not reign it in

Warren has called for pulling out of Afghanistan. She seems about as much a creature of the national security "blob" as Obama was. There will be drone strikes as the War on Terror is eternal, but the consensus within the blob has turned pretty strongly against the support for regime change that lead to involvement in the Libya and Syria quagmires. Warren doesn't seem too enthused about a close relationship with Saudi Arabia and UAE.

Just make sure Samantha Powers is kept far, far away from any appointed/advisory role.

The whole "Bernie's supporters are so rude" shit is such a cliche cudgel against the left. Sorry we're mostly younger and poorer, so this shit actually matters to us unlike you assholes who want to treat politics like a polite garden party and call each other "sir" and "madam" while people die in the gutter.

Fuck you

well that escalated quickly

nothing like ad hominem attacks to bring us all together lol

The whole "Bernie's supporters are so rude" shit is such a cliche cudgel against the left. Sorry we're mostly younger and poorer, so this shit actually matters to us unlike you assholes who want to treat politics like a polite garden party and call each other "sir" and "madam" while people die in the gutter.

― OneSecondBefore, Wednesday, October 2, 2019 1:01 PM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

oh my fucking god log off

Some of us who are pretty comfortable financially still live in a country that murdered our great-grandparents for existing, have gone through situations that were dangerous to us solely because of our heritage, and have children who will have to navigate an environment of re-energized, state sanctioned racism, so get your head out of your goddamned ass and stop telling me what I do and don't care about, you insufferable jackass.

This is why allies like are aren't worth shit.

like YOU, that was meant to say

I really don't find this to be unique to Bernie-or-die supporters fwiw, plenty of nasty mud gets slung at Bernie. I just think generally speaking there's plenty of criticizing and feet-to-the-fire-holding that can be done without trying CANCEL the person who may very well become the democratic nominee in a high stakes election

xp what are you guys having at your autumn harvest party btw, anything good

I mean there are Bernie-or-die people and there are also death-before-Bernie people.

Sorry, I did get a little too heated there. Just having a bad day and very tired of rehashing the whole "bernie supporters are monsters" thing.

they aren't monsters, but they are definitely way over the top in a way that no one should be for any politician that you aren't actively fucking or waiting for an inheritance from.

sorta like Springsteen fans

Worth reiterating that like 8/10 Warren and Bernie fans are totally fine with the other's candidate

I was super critical of Sanders in 2016 and he is in my top 2 this go-round, with Warren. He is someone who seems to have learned from mistakes he made during the first run.

For what it's worth, I also am a #1 Bernie guy who would be slightly disappointed but still support the hell out of Warren if she won.

Thanks for all the well wishes. I'm feeling good. I'm fortunate to have good health care and great doctors and nurses helping me to recover.

None of us know when a medical emergency might affect us. And no one should fear going bankrupt if it occurs. Medicare for All!

— Bernie Sanders (@BernieSanders) October 2, 2019

oh look another presumably white guy freaked out

lol xpost

xpost I had almost posted something about the delicate balancing act of one white guy knowing he has it harder than the other white guy.

Stenting probably won't change Bernie's prospects, but it will give him some relief from angina. Someday I might get Dr. McDougall's "Do Not Cath, I Will Sue" tattoo.

― hedonic treadmill class action (Sanpaku), Wednesday, October 2, 2019 1:46 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

the paper you’re citing is about stable angina, and your interpretation of the evidence for effectiveness of PCI for this purpose matches up with mine, but from the sounds of it, bernie probably had an acute coronary syndrome

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/ElegantTallBernesemountaindog-size_restricted.gif

someone better have a stash of chewable aspirin around him at all times now.

None of us know when a medical emergency might affect us. And no one should fear going bankrupt if it occurs. Medicare for All!

fuck yeah, that's the stuff

KING

:)

hook it into my veins (for free)

pictured him delivering that line immediately after sitting up in his hospital bed

Love it

nothing but respect for MY president (hopefully)

<3

pictured him delivering that line immediately after sitting up in his hospital bed

flexing like The Rock at the end of Fast 7, his IV pops gently out of his arm onto the sheet

Someone get the deepfake video guy on that

I really feel like the left is gonna win this one :)

flappy is fully redpilled

TMI

Poppin' a broner

that can be done without trying CANCEL the person who may very well become the democratic nominee in a high stakes election

― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 20:08 (two hours ago) link

im not trying to CANCEL anyone, i just find warren's Native heritage bit to be deeply troubling on many levels, i don't see how anyone can watch that video and not come to the conclusion that she's full of shit. and if you think i should be nice about her because she may get the nomination, you better believe the right will be crowing about this nonstop i don't see why we shouldn't bring it up now, its not like if we don't they will forget about it or something.

Deffff not Bernie or bust tho & I would vote for Warren BUT this is a primary!

oh look another presumably white guy freaked out

― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, October 2, 2019 9:33 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

whats your take on that link alfred? maybe you would like to just tell me to go fuck myself again?

It's creepy and and I made my peace with it. No doubt you made your peace with how Sanders ignored POC in 2016.

I think the native american stuff is a really stupid thinf to fixate on. It’s embarrassing I guess but what does it say about how she would govern?

The caprices of #Berniebros won't keep me from voting for him should he become the nominee.

treeship. at 12:29 2 Oct 19

Hope Bernie recovers. He’s an important voice— whether you prefer Warren or him, I think it’s undeniable that Bernie did a lot to make policies like medicare for all, free college, debt cancellation etc seem possible.

treesh otm

end to end warners

I think the native american stuff is a really stupid thinf to fixate on. It’s embarrassing I guess but what does it say about how she would govern?

― treeship., Wednesday, October 2, 2019 11:34 PM (twenty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah its not my top issue either, i originally raised it in this thread as a joke after someone reacted to the news of Bernie having heart surgery by enthusiastically hoping that he would imediately drop out and endorse Warren. then everyone jumped down my throat and said i should fuck off back to breitbart or whatever. I'm not sure it speaks to how she would govern, but i think it does speak of how she might lose the general. its more than embarrassing imo its abhorrent and the fact she seems to being given a pass on it by the media so far just shows that they far prefer her to sanders.

It's creepy and and I made my peace with it. No doubt you made your peace with how Sanders ignored POC in 2016.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, October 2, 2019 11:34 PM (twenty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

lol