xp i mean that ideology transcends space but it's nowhere near as bad in mtl as in vancouver
― flopson, Thursday, 3 October 2019 17:39 (four years ago) link
the mtl music scene is more "pc" perhaps but also has way more queer and poc people, and also way better bands and parties. the vancouver music scene is either unpolitical weird bougie shit like house djs pairing up with overpriced tapas restaurants to cater a 30$ party that sells out in advance, or like a weird high school dynamics version of pc/call-out culture, like this one person who runs a popular underground venue space banned their ex from the venue (and his whole band had to leave their jamspace!) bc he started seeing someone else a couple months after they broke up
― flopson, Thursday, 3 October 2019 17:43 (four years ago) link
Yeah, I trust it is more pervasive in Vancouver, in Montreal you can still have many english speaking friends who don't subscribe to these ideologies.
― Van Horn Street, Thursday, 3 October 2019 17:44 (four years ago) link
I was going to say that IME the ideology you described above is mainly the one of white people with fine art degrees/musicians. Montreal is large and diverse enough that you can have a great social life in media/art while almost being able to ignore those type of people.
― Van Horn Street, Thursday, 3 October 2019 17:51 (four years ago) link
it's every demographic here. i went to church once and the minister started his lecture by acknowledging that he was a genocidal colonizer and asked everyone to say it back lmao. and then the sermon was some vague shit abt how we should listen to indigenous stories but not tell them to each other
i think indigenous sov is super impt and there are good things about the way they're foregrounded here, and i even like some of the more symbolic stuff like land acknowledgements. but a lot of the discourse around it is v weird and often avoids political subtance & is kinda otherizing or wtv
― flopson, Thursday, 3 October 2019 17:59 (four years ago) link
i once pressed a friend who is particularly egregious w this stuff and they told me that canada should cede all power to indigenous leaders so that they can implement eco-socialism. which, i mean that sounds fine to me if it were to happen, but just goes to show how little that ideology thinks through the political tensions involved (incl within indigenous communities)
― flopson, Thursday, 3 October 2019 18:02 (four years ago) link
oh sure, make the indigenous people do all the governing for you, as if their lives haven't been negatively affected enough already
― mh, Thursday, 3 October 2019 18:06 (four years ago) link
Not the biggest fan of pulling on the first come first serve land sovereignty thread; but really yes, dealing with those white progressive communities is often navigating signal virtuousness waters.
― Van Horn Street, Thursday, 3 October 2019 18:13 (four years ago) link
Also I have a problem with calling yourself a genocidal colonizers when you never participated in institutions that programmed and executed the colonial genocide.
― Van Horn Street, Thursday, 3 October 2019 18:18 (four years ago) link
ya i have a bit of weird feelings about like, calling my grandmother, who moved here fleeing the holocaust and lived as a poor immigrant for decades, a genocidal colonizer
― flopson, Thursday, 3 October 2019 18:43 (four years ago) link
bizarre pervasive local ideology that's a mix of dumb mystical bullshit like astrology and these confusing rhetorical references to indigenous politics (everyone here loves to preempt everything they say with 'i recognize that i am a white-supremacist genocidal colonizer') that have no actual political substance and are more like a new-age self-help thing(?)
ha, this is so true.
lot of people playing "I'm a bougie white person with vaguely "left" neoliberal identity politics how do i express my political beliefs in a the most woo woo way in a manner that conforms to what i imagine POC and indigenous people's interests are?" (oh btw my friend group is 100% white - barring the odd rich canadian of east asian descent)
― Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 3 October 2019 18:53 (four years ago) link
i used to be vegan and i would get criticized for this being racist and classist by rich white people
― Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 3 October 2019 18:56 (four years ago) link
oh yeah sorry for derailing the montreal thread obv.
back to montreal: that gnocchi place next to fairmount bagels is so fucking good
― Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 3 October 2019 19:04 (four years ago) link
I wish I could afford restaurants seriously.
― Van Horn Street, Thursday, 3 October 2019 19:10 (four years ago) link
sending jim out to scout locations a few weeks before I visit somewhere next time instead of a couple months after
I mean, I don't regret the multiple portuguese chicken and poutine meals I ate on the cheap, but..
― mh, Thursday, 3 October 2019 19:47 (four years ago) link
the gnocchi place is called drogheria fine and it sells one thing - gnocchi in calabrian tomato sauce - it costs $5 and is filling enough to have for lunch. it is $1 extra if you want extra pecorino romano on it
― Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 3 October 2019 19:50 (four years ago) link
worth the drive from Toronto? (i love gnocchi)
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 3 October 2019 19:59 (four years ago) link
that's one hell of a drive but if you generally like montreal and spending time there then why not
― Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 3 October 2019 20:07 (four years ago) link
the train is an option but spoiler: you can't really see the lake, it's mostly trees the whole way
― mh, Thursday, 3 October 2019 20:10 (four years ago) link
yeah it's not a very picturesque journey
― Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 3 October 2019 20:20 (four years ago) link
i think it is! taken it there and back a few times.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 3 October 2019 20:39 (four years ago) link
isn’t the gnocchi place on beaubien better? or is that the same business that moved?
― flopson, Thursday, 3 October 2019 20:41 (four years ago) link
imo it's not a real montreal recommendation if someone doesn't immediately tell you about the better place that's a few blocks away
I've sometimes, after having a meal I really liked, mumbled "oh I had a sandwich nbd" if someone has asked me where I ate lunch, so as to not get sidetracked into where I should have eaten
― mh, Thursday, 3 October 2019 21:22 (four years ago) link
xp. iirc this place has been there for years (like i think it was there last time i visited like 5 years or so ago)
― Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 3 October 2019 21:23 (four years ago) link
Van Horn StreetPosted: October 3, 2019 at 15:10:57I wish I could afford restaurants seriously.Lock thread
― rob, Thursday, 3 October 2019 21:41 (four years ago) link
when i was flush w cash living that yuppie DINC mtl lyfe my ex and i would eat out at a fancy french place one a month; ate at all the toqués, l'expresses, joe beefs. good times
― flopson, Thursday, 3 October 2019 21:50 (four years ago) link
i ate at larry's, was dece
― Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 3 October 2019 21:51 (four years ago) link
now i live in vancouver and am broke but eat the best szechuan, vietnamese, korean ive ever had in my life once a week. so, also good times
― flopson, Thursday, 3 October 2019 21:51 (four years ago) link
xp- love Larry's
I should admit I have been to some great restaurants here. Bouillon Bilk, Tuck Shop, and Vin Papillon were all rad
― rob, Thursday, 3 October 2019 23:53 (four years ago) link
love vin pap
― flopson, Friday, 4 October 2019 00:44 (four years ago) link
lol are these airport drop boxes new? I only remember seeing warning signs
you are now leaving Canada pic.twitter.com/M2UHvx76hp— Tim Maughan (@timmaughan) December 22, 2019
― mh, Sunday, 22 December 2019 18:47 (four years ago) link
Saw them at least back in August. Considering I was flying to PDX it was kind of lol
― rob, Sunday, 22 December 2019 18:58 (four years ago) link
I must have just not noticed them when I was there in August.
― mh, Sunday, 22 December 2019 19:01 (four years ago) link
I'd suggest a FAP at some point but epidemiological conditions aren't exactly ideal at the moment. Something to keep in mind for the future, however.
― stabbing fantaisiste, repellent imagiste (pomenitul), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 20:49 (three years ago) link
Pas cool, Valérie.
- The police operating budget in 2021 will be $679 million, an increase of just under $15 million from last year.
- The budget for housing, including funding for the city's goal to create 12,000 affordable and social housing units by 2021, will be $140.5 million, down nearly $13 million from last year.
― Van Horn Street, Friday, 13 November 2020 00:28 (three years ago) link
what the fuck??https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2020/11/13/possible-prise-dotages-chez-ubisoft-a-montreal
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 13 November 2020 19:09 (three years ago) link
A group of suspects would hold dozens of people hostage, Friday afternoon, in Montreal, in a building that houses the premises of the Ubisoft company, on Saint-Laurent Boulevard.
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 13 November 2020 19:10 (three years ago) link
wtf
― pomenitul, Friday, 13 November 2020 19:11 (three years ago) link
― Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Friday, 13 November 2020 19:12 (three years ago) link
yikes. news is very unclear so far
― rob, Friday, 13 November 2020 19:37 (three years ago) link
One of my friends works like a block from there, in a building where Ubisoft also has offices. Thankfully the hostage situation seems to be limited to a single building but reports of a ‘group’ of suspects are hardly comforting.
― pomenitul, Friday, 13 November 2020 19:50 (three years ago) link
Suspects reportedly asking for $$$. To be confirmed.
― pomenitul, Friday, 13 November 2020 19:53 (three years ago) link
scary stuff
― Politically homely (jim in vancouver), Friday, 13 November 2020 19:56 (three years ago) link
(link removed)
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 13 November 2020 20:00 (three years ago) link
For all I know it could all be a hoax, nothing had been 100% confirmed so far.
― pomenitul, Friday, 13 November 2020 20:04 (three years ago) link
Well aside from the fact that it’s being treated as a potentially dangerous situation.
fuck the postmillennial that's alt right bullshit
but the images of people on the roof don't particularly evoke hostages so far; i think it's premature to assume they are.
i have a friend inside who says there's lots of police and he's safe
i'm two blocks away, my son's daycare is less than a block away. :( i know s1ocki is nearby too
let's wait and see :(
― sean gramophone, Friday, 13 November 2020 20:04 (three years ago) link
s1ocki has tweeted that they're staying put inside their office which sounds like they're safe
― Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Friday, 13 November 2020 20:05 (three years ago) link
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, November 13, 2020 12:00 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
appreciate that that is a somewhat informative link but that's an alt-right website
― Politically homely (jim in vancouver), Friday, 13 November 2020 20:06 (three years ago) link