this is an excellent john cale album
― american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, October 4, 2019 10:57 AM (two hours ago)
i love john cale albums -- what makes you say that?
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 4 October 2019 18:16 (four years ago) link
so much of this could so easily have sounded entirely bog-standard in a Sharon van Etten album track way
What’s wrong with sharon can etten? She’s great.
Can’t wait to listen to the new angel olsen though. Love her.
― treeship., Friday, 4 October 2019 18:19 (four years ago) link
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, October 4, 2019 11:16 AM (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
sumptuous chamber music arrangements plus general sense of playfulness within those arrangements plus good vocal melodies. bit of an inexact comparison but i didn't feel wrong making it
― american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 4 October 2019 18:27 (four years ago) link
hey that sounds good to me. i just wondered what it was about john cale albums that you were referring to -- there are so many things to like and he has so many different types of albums, each of them different and yet totally john cale albums :) serious + playful is an appealing combo!
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 4 October 2019 18:34 (four years ago) link
In his albums Cale projects a sense of quashed danger, an animal pacing behind a cage. I haven't paid much attention to her since Burn Your Fire for No Witness, which was okay?
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 October 2019 18:39 (four years ago) link
I've only heard a couple of tracks and i dislike the arrangements/production
― Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Friday, 4 October 2019 18:42 (four years ago) link
I haven't paid much attention to her since Burn Your Fire for No Witness, which was okay?
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, October 4, 2019 11:39 AM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
my woman expanded her sound and is a very good record. regardless i think this one outdoes it in every way
― american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 4 October 2019 18:44 (four years ago) link
"All Mirrors" didn't click for me until I played it while driving (which is much louder than I play anything at home)
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Friday, 4 October 2019 18:45 (four years ago) link
I'm surprised she's trending on Twitter tbh
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 October 2019 18:50 (four years ago) link
Why? She’s awesome and also cool.
― treeship., Friday, 4 October 2019 18:55 (four years ago) link
she's really got it all imowhether she has the ability to have a long and varied career, we will see. i hope so!
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 4 October 2019 19:52 (four years ago) link
idk, whole image of the new record seems like a put-on to me. like she saw grimes' social media antics from the last couple years and went, "yeah, like that, but with a smidgen more integrity."
this new record needs more "shut up kiss me" and less fancy headpieces.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 4 October 2019 20:15 (four years ago) link
i thought you weren't listening to it
― american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 4 October 2019 20:17 (four years ago) link
i have literally no idea what this record has to do with grimes
super weird take - visual presentation has been a big part of her last two cycles. Her band toured in matching powder blue tuxes for the last one and she had a lineup of Sophia Loren-esque dresses for stage apparel
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Friday, 4 October 2019 20:20 (four years ago) link
I've never felt as bad for a mid-level touring band as seeing them in those tuxes on stage, it must have been torture in a 100-degree packed club under stage lights
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Friday, 4 October 2019 20:21 (four years ago) link
I don’t think she is similar at all to grimes. Looking at her social media now—hadn’t ever paid attention to it—and it seems like a similar vintagey style she is rocking.
― treeship., Friday, 4 October 2019 20:23 (four years ago) link
On the first run through i didnt hear anytbing i liked as much as “sister.” But that’s a tall order. The album sounded really good—I’m sure on repeat listenings a few of the songs will really connect more.
― treeship., Friday, 4 October 2019 20:24 (four years ago) link
i've been reading her longwinded instagram posts talking about it for the last 3+ months. i guess if you like the album, there's a lot to dig into.
for me it just felt like all that goodwill and humanist rapport she developed with my angel and phases is being tossed aside for melodrama and over the top showmanship.
when i actually heard the music she had been going on about, i just thought, "huh. okay."
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 4 October 2019 20:25 (four years ago) link
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, October 4, 2019 1:15 PM (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
lmao wtf
― winters (josh), Friday, 4 October 2019 20:26 (four years ago) link
but yeah: it's me that just doesn't get this one. i'm truly glad you guys are into it.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 4 October 2019 20:27 (four years ago) link
she always seems to be making the album SHE wants to make and i appreciate that about her. maybe it's not what you want or what her fans want or whatever but it's her album and it's what she wants. it's her music after all! i can't imagine being nitpicked this way. it would make me lose my shit.
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 4 October 2019 20:30 (four years ago) link
what i was trying to say is that it doesn't really feel like her anymore.
but again: i will fully concede that i don't get it.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 4 October 2019 20:36 (four years ago) link
but it IS her -- she made itmaybe she isn't the her you want her to be but she is definitively still herself; i don't think there's a svengali lurking behind the curtain making her wear headpieces
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 4 October 2019 20:40 (four years ago) link
well, like i said, that's great!
not my vibe though.
going back to abdullah ibrahim and new wave records now.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 4 October 2019 21:00 (four years ago) link
i went through her instagram to try to understand what austin could possibly be talking about and i'm still just as confused. there's nothing weird there or remotely comparable to grimes's antics. it's fine to not get this one because it's definitely a sonic departure, though her songwriting at the core feels the same, but all the stuff complaining about her image is baffling
― ufo, Friday, 4 October 2019 23:21 (four years ago) link
The songs I've heard from the new one haven't gotten me, but I haven't spent much time with them. I loved the early, mannered folky stuff, did not get captured by Burn Your Fire, and loved, loved, loved My Woman. One of my favorite things about her was her NPR interview where she talked about how into Mariah Carey she was at 12 - and I'm not that into Mariah Carey -- and I'm not that into Mariah Carey.
Seeing her for the first time in November.
― Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Friday, 4 October 2019 23:40 (four years ago) link
By the way, I'm not that into Mariah Carey.
I have only one question: Is Mazzy Tsar into Mariah Carey?
― Hinklepicker, Friday, 4 October 2019 23:57 (four years ago) link
Lol.
― Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Friday, 4 October 2019 23:57 (four years ago) link
The shift in Sister when it takes off at the end is one of my favorite music moments of the last five years.
― Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Saturday, 5 October 2019 00:11 (four years ago) link
no mention of Scott walker? listening to 4 recently - seems like an obvious reference - except walker is far weirder - this one is just too heavy and drenched for me to get a handle on right now
― clouds (peanutbuttereverysingleday), Saturday, 5 October 2019 06:01 (four years ago) link
i am so in love with this record
― american bradass (BradNelson), Saturday, 5 October 2019 16:34 (four years ago) link
every song sounds as good or better than the last, and even with the (wonderful) clotted string arrangements it's never suffocating, cf. "what it is" is so light on its feet
― american bradass (BradNelson), Saturday, 5 October 2019 17:18 (four years ago) link
The whole way through this, I was thinking "Susanne Sundfør, but drowsy" which, I guess, is a place I'd like to visit occasionally.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, October 4, 2019
never gonna be able to unhear this now lol
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Saturday, 5 October 2019 18:07 (four years ago) link
it’s susanne sundfør in hell
― american bradass (BradNelson), Saturday, 5 October 2019 18:22 (four years ago) link
hahaha
― flopson, Saturday, 5 October 2019 18:25 (four years ago) link
i am...really liking this
why
― imago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 18:21 (four years ago) link
because it’s incredible
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 18:38 (four years ago) link
Couldn't get into this at all - to my ears it seems like it's trying too hard to be a Lana Del Rey album.
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 18:40 (four years ago) link
chalk and cheese
― imago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 18:48 (four years ago) link
or rather, there was more ambition, sonic depth and intrigue in the opening track of this than in ldr's entire career so far, and having heard the first four tracks i am v excited to hear the rest
― imago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 18:50 (four years ago) link
I'm not sure what they have in common. They're records made by women?
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 18:52 (four years ago) link
they have very little in common. i guess honeymoon is saturated in uneasy string arrangements
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 18:56 (four years ago) link
chalk and cheese sounds like a classic LJ culinary experiment
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 19:03 (four years ago) link
both have plenty of calcium. just like olsen and ldr both use drums
― imago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 19:07 (four years ago) link
― imago, Tuesday, October 8, 2019
not on this thread to debate crazy-ass challops, but lol
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 19:36 (four years ago) link
this could do with losing some filler from the second half but it's been a good listen
― imago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 19:48 (four years ago) link
what's the filler!!!
sorry i got very surprised by this, to the point where it is my album of the year?
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 19:59 (four years ago) link
tracks 8-10 didn't quite hit the same spot and got me thinking that impasse -> change would be a killer ending. here's where it turns out your favourite track is one of my filler choices lol
― imago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 20:03 (four years ago) link