I dare you to anticipate Joaquin Phoenix in Todd Phillips's JOKER (now with something that may or may not be a SPOILER)

Calling it now: maximum of 30 Oscar nominations.

Holy poop, this movie ends with a "maybe it was all in his head?" twist? Would have been great if it ended with the revelation this is all taking place in the real world and he's a big fan of (fictional) Batman and fantasized of become the Joker. With Heath Ledger and Jack Nicholson and Cesar Romero and animated Mark Hamill Joker appearing next to him in the mental hospital as force ghosts.

within the movie, was it fantasy or reality when a character who can barely express himself verbally and says he has no interest in politics suddenly gives an eloquent statement on live tv connecting his random actions to his sociopolitical status and the state of the world?

i'm pretty fucking burned out on antihero narratives. so "edgy" when every single hbo show since the sopranos has done the same thing

prefer Supergirl's updated hero narrative tbh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzmZJcPlJlE

haha yeah uh not that one

The pop music transition scenes, where there's no dialogue and we're left watching the scene to play out, were jarring and felt like they broke the flow of the movie. Like they were stuck in from a comedy movie where one of the character is doing something crazy and everyone's lunging in slow motion going "noooo"

I get that it's a fictional city roughly inspired by 70s NYC but, having not lived it but having seen a fair number of films placed in that setting, it didn't feel coherent or fleshed out. I can't really remember anything about the extras on the street or anything that made it feel like a real place where people live.

Phoenix did well with the material, but he wasn't really given much to work with. Has his character just been going to therapy sessions and working as a clown his entire adult life? And the main catalyst is the city cutting social services the same week he's given a gun by a coworker and he unravels why his mom's been delusionally writing letters to her rich boss from decades ago

so just to lay out the "subtext": are people interpreting the closing scene with arthur in the mental hospital as saying the entire movie has been the product of an unreliable narrator?

well, the only thing dumber than a Joker-ed Taxi Driver is a Joker-ed Sucker Punch.

and that Rex Reed review sounds like a grade school book report.

Many homicidal acts of revenge ensue, including, at last, one that will knock you out of your socks ...

has there ever been a live late-night talk show on u.s. tv

Joe Franklin?

he unravels why his mom's been delusionally writing letters to her rich boss from decades ago

omg are joker and batman brothers? :D

btw, i watched wrinkles over the weekend, it is (also) not good and not worth your time. sort of a fifteen minute vice youtube given the full-length treatment for no reason. the trailer covers most of it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSOt0Ks97_E

has there ever been a live late-night talk show on u.s. tv

Jimmy Kimmel was live for the first year or so.

But it was the first real live late night talk show since the '60s maybe?

saw that trailer in front of Miike's First Love on Saturday and it looked like the fakest shit ever

oh it's "Real" it just not "real interesting"

important to note that clowns don't wear masks, they wear makeup, a clown mask is not something a bona fide clown wears, wrinkles is a fake clown

wrinkles is the clown in the mirror michael moore was talking about

omg are joker and batman brothers? :D

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This is honestly kinda the best idea in the movie :) The reimagining of Thomas Wayne makes an awful amount of sense. Bruce Wayne is pretending to be an asshole as a cover, but then Thomas Wayne would have been one in real life, no?

has there ever been a live late-night talk show on u.s. tv

They all used to be live... Carson was for most or all of his NYC era (left for LA in the early '70s).

True 80s NYC would be Joker guesting on Robyn Byrd.

Midnight Blue with The Jacker

Just remembered the Jerry Langford show was live too.

Oh wait, it isn't, because Pupkin watches himself at the bar. Disregard.

also, what SEVEN medications would he be on in 1981? Lithium, Thorazine, ......?

... We're A Happy Family/Me, Mom & Daddy

flappy otm, the grocery list of drugs things seemed contemporary

also, that brief moment almost at the end where he finds the photo of his mom with a fond note from Thomas on the back was a whole lot of "ohh, then MAYBE"

like, it's more than likely just a nice note from a boss that liked her and later fed her delusions but MAYBE

This is honestly kinda the best idea in the movie :)

isn't it just Zack Snyder's revolutionary idea of Batman and Superman crying in each other's arms because their mothers have the same name

or Sam Mendes revolutionary idea of Blofeld and Batman being brothers

or etc etc

oh ho, my dark mirror it seems is even closer to me than I had let myself suspect. perhaps it is I who truly is unbalanced, askew from the norms of society. but to confront this would only send me as mad as he!

young bruce pretty blasé about old weirdos sticking fingers into his mouth.

or Sam Mendes revolutionary idea of Blofeld and Batman being brothers

lol @ me, but tbf he does skulk around on rooftops wearing a spooky mask in that movie, and operate with only grudging arms-distance half-approval from the authorities

I still enjoy Alfred being a dick then getting WWE choked

A FB friend posted how he hated it. Refreshing for some variety instead of the usual fecund gaggle of gigglefucks slurping the sweat off of Joaquin's peen

would slurp of shame

True 80s NYC would be Joker guesting on Robyn Byrd.

where else would the joker boast about his boners?

still undecided whether to see this at a cinema, likelihood of it being a less well written version of Shakes The Clown seems likely

https://youtu.be/V7KOt3Hugd4?t=45

Yes, Tom Kenny's Binky is all the homicidal doormat clown that I need.

I’m wondering how much of this movie you could recreate using footage of Joaquin Phoenix in other roles

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Never rub another man's robot!

^^Next Guy Maddin joint, IIRC.

XP to mh

Nobody named Todd has ever been nominated for the Best DIrector Academy Award.

— Jaime N. Christley (@j_christley) October 5, 2019

should been todd haynes

(or, honestlly, solondz for happiness)

I nominate Browning if the singular 'd' in his first name isn't an automatic disqualifier.

Happiness was ridiculously good

happily, Todd Field was passed over for In the Bedroom, or Death Wish for NPR Members, as i called it.

Is Joaquin going to accept his Oscar in makeup

Oh also yesterday at work I stood in line in Jollibee behind a guy who was dressed as the Leto Joker.

Green hair. Same haircut. He even had the "HaHaHaHaHa" tattoo

:/