END TO END BERNERS: The Official Bernie Sanders 2020 Crew thread

yeah, why wait til later when it wouldn't matter at all?

anyway, the way he’s covered (or not covered at all) by the media is ludicrous.

He got an unsurprising endorsement and had a big rally in Brooklyn. None of that is proof of anything, he needs better polling to claim a comeback. Hopefully he gets it, it was a really good speech! Having them both in the race is really good.

I never thought I would say this, but . . . Dennis Perrin OTM. **swallows rat poison**

I honestly thought AOC would’ve waited until it became clear which one of the two was going to be the nominee

This is vmic for AOC. If she is closer to Bernie politically (and she is), I don't see how her waiting to endorse would be a pragmatic move. If Bernie withdraws or releases his delegates, then AOC would be free to endorse an alternative to Bernie. I've no doubt she will work for and with whoever the eventual nominee is.

Yes, and she'd probably be delighted to work for and with Warren. There's no hypocrisy or gameplaying in endorsing the candidate that you're more closely aligned with, nor in endorsing the one you're next most closely aligned with, nor in honestly doing the best work you can do within a party framework.

it's a primary! it's a contest!

I hope to god it doesn’t come to fruition but I wonder if Biden is the nominee whether he would exactly welcome any support from the Squad. I know Bernie campaigned for HRC in 2016 but this dynamic feels different, AOC is the emergent satan to the Fox News set that Biden probably thinks he needs to at least partly court.

Unlike any simulacrum of a Democratic "resistance" of my lifetime, I don't doubt AOC, Pressley, etc have sat down with advisers to map out how a Dem-controlled House with Biden as president would look like, not to mention the other plausible scenarios.

and had a big rally in Brooklyn

nice try

everyone will know come january

https://theintercept.com/2019/11/01/bernie-sanders-palestine-aid-hamas/

I need everyone outside of Minnesota to know how fuckin cool it is that @BernieSanders has New Power Generation opening for him tomorrow.

— Ian 🌹 (@mr_ian) November 2, 2019

my man

they want to change the world
the only thing that's in our way is u

https://www.instagram.com/p/B4ZAJL4Hgdh/

BERNIE SANDERS YOU BASTARDS

There's no comparison here. There's one person in this race worth supporting. pic.twitter.com/jTZ7xvvi1T

— Tum Tum (@ActionDonson) November 7, 2019

That Warren tweet is really disgusting.

Why?

because Liz sucks now
and everything she says or does is icky

she's always sucked tbh

was probably worse when she was a republican

it is crucially important that we make harsh moral judgments of candidates based on their positions on hypothetical scenarios that have 0% bearing on reality

What makes this discussion stupid id that Bernie does not intend to tax Bill Gates $100 billion any more than Warren does.

yeah but chumming up with epstein adjacent eugenicist billionaires is its own reward

Warren clearly wants to be besties.

both of those seem like good campaigning to me

chumming up with epstein adjacent eugenicist billionaires

I suppose you realize that if you were trying to win a hypothetical election to any position of public trust by expressing yourself in such terms, you would not only lose, but never come close enough to winning for anyone to take you seriously. otoh, warren is already in the midst of trying to win a real election, and so may be pardoned if she doesn't emulate your approach.

it's true. bill gates has so many divisions

i don't think there is a political cost to antagonizing billionaires.

if you lost the vote of every american billionaire, you would lose 607 votes, many of them in safe blue states like new york and california.

chumming up with epstein adjacent eugenicist billionaires

I suppose you realize that if you were trying to win a hypothetical election to any position of public trust by expressing yourself in such terms, you would not only lose, but never come close enough to winning for anyone to take you seriously. otoh, warren is already in the midst of trying to win a real election, and so may be pardoned if she doesn't emulate your approach.

― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, November 7, 2019 10:15 AM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

well neither one of us will ever be president of the united states so we have that in common

and you do realize that ilx and public facing social media accounts of politicians are different things, and i am obviously aware of that?

xps - ah, but one must antagonize them without sounding like an angry fool. especially if you aren't given a free pass as a white male.

oh aimless is drawing for the idpol now? o tempora, o mores

Lol is 'free pass as a white male' bcos u remembered Trump

do you deny that warren's rhetoric will be judged by a somewhat different standard because she is a woman, only because I said it?

Trump certainly sounds like an angry fool, but he doesn't aim it at billionaires. just immigrants.

We've been over this, but Sanders will also be judged (well, smeared) by a different standard thanks to his Jewishness!

"chumming up" with plutocrats in Warren parlance would be "turn them to chum based on proposed tax rates," which for some reason frighten them.

I suspect the main reason Warren's rhetoric isn't as antagonistic towards Gates is because she doesn't want it to be / it's not her style. It's not more complicated than that.

Why?

― No language just sound (Sund4r), Thursday, 7 November 2019 bookmarkflaglink

To get onside with people like Gates/entrepreneurs who have media access to bitch about things they don't like Warren is prepared let him have input in her tax plans?

I saw Warren's tweet as a polite "You don't know what you're talking about" but I guess she was chumming it up with Bill because BERNIE!!!

"input"

I re-read the tweet and it doesn't suggest that Bill have input, only that she'd meet him and explain her plan to him.

it was subtweeting of a hypothetical sanders tweet to be like "i wouldn't tax you like that bad bernie sanders" to bill gates.

It won't be 100 billion bill don't worry you won't go hungry xp

Warren murdered Epstein to protect Gates. You heard it here first.

i cringed at warren's tweet, but this is a very weird reason to favor one candidate over the other

when you're running for president, it's highly likely that you're going to have to meet and talk with some pretty awful ppl, and if ppl are actually "disgusted" that warren offered to meet with gates (rather than, i guess, calling for him to be shot and bayoneted), it's safe to say that at some point they're going to be horrified by someone bernie agrees to talk to

They won't be horrified because Bernie will talk to no one when he's president. He'll sit alone in the Oval Office growling.