I honestly thought AOC would’ve waited until it became clear which one of the two was going to be the nominee
This is vmic for AOC. If she is closer to Bernie politically (and she is), I don't see how her waiting to endorse would be a pragmatic move. If Bernie withdraws or releases his delegates, then AOC would be free to endorse an alternative to Bernie. I've no doubt she will work for and with whoever the eventual nominee is.
― A is for (Aimless), Monday, 21 October 2019 22:20 (four years ago) link
Yes, and she'd probably be delighted to work for and with Warren. There's no hypocrisy or gameplaying in endorsing the candidate that you're more closely aligned with, nor in endorsing the one you're next most closely aligned with, nor in honestly doing the best work you can do within a party framework.
― now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Monday, 21 October 2019 23:49 (four years ago) link
it's a primary! it's a contest!
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 02:16 (four years ago) link
I hope to god it doesn’t come to fruition but I wonder if Biden is the nominee whether he would exactly welcome any support from the Squad. I know Bernie campaigned for HRC in 2016 but this dynamic feels different, AOC is the emergent satan to the Fox News set that Biden probably thinks he needs to at least partly court.
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 02:46 (four years ago) link
Unlike any simulacrum of a Democratic "resistance" of my lifetime, I don't doubt AOC, Pressley, etc have sat down with advisers to map out how a Dem-controlled House with Biden as president would look like, not to mention the other plausible scenarios.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 02:50 (four years ago) link
and had a big rally in Brooklyn
nice try
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 03:08 (four years ago) link
everyone will know come january
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 05:25 (four years ago) link
https://theintercept.com/2019/11/01/bernie-sanders-palestine-aid-hamas/
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 1 November 2019 18:09 (four years ago) link
I need everyone outside of Minnesota to know how fuckin cool it is that @BernieSanders has New Power Generation opening for him tomorrow.— Ian 🌹 (@mr_ian) November 2, 2019
― flappy bird, Saturday, 2 November 2019 22:28 (four years ago) link
my man
― gbx, Saturday, 2 November 2019 22:31 (four years ago) link
they want to change the worldthe only thing that's in our way is u
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 3 November 2019 20:09 (four years ago) link
https://www.instagram.com/p/B4ZAJL4Hgdh/
BERNIE SANDERS YOU BASTARDS
― anvil, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 13:37 (four years ago) link
There's no comparison here. There's one person in this race worth supporting. pic.twitter.com/jTZ7xvvi1T— Tum Tum (@ActionDonson) November 7, 2019
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:41 (four years ago) link
That Warren tweet is really disgusting.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:42 (four years ago) link
Why?
― No language just sound (Sund4r), Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:48 (four years ago) link
because Liz sucks nowand everything she says or does is icky
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:50 (four years ago) link
she's always sucked tbh
― ت (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:52 (four years ago) link
was probably worse when she was a republican
it is crucially important that we make harsh moral judgments of candidates based on their positions on hypothetical scenarios that have 0% bearing on reality
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:52 (four years ago) link
What makes this discussion stupid id that Bernie does not intend to tax Bill Gates $100 billion any more than Warren does.
― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:58 (four years ago) link
yeah but chumming up with epstein adjacent eugenicist billionaires is its own reward
― ت (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:59 (four years ago) link
Warren clearly wants to be besties.
― by the light of the burning Citroën, Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:04 (four years ago) link
both of those seem like good campaigning to me
― now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:12 (four years ago) link
chumming up with epstein adjacent eugenicist billionaires
I suppose you realize that if you were trying to win a hypothetical election to any position of public trust by expressing yourself in such terms, you would not only lose, but never come close enough to winning for anyone to take you seriously. otoh, warren is already in the midst of trying to win a real election, and so may be pardoned if she doesn't emulate your approach.
― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:15 (four years ago) link
it's true. bill gates has so many divisions
― difficult listening hour, Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:17 (four years ago) link
i don't think there is a political cost to antagonizing billionaires.
― treeship., Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:17 (four years ago) link
if you lost the vote of every american billionaire, you would lose 607 votes, many of them in safe blue states like new york and california.
― treeship., Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:18 (four years ago) link
― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, November 7, 2019 10:15 AM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
well neither one of us will ever be president of the united states so we have that in common
― ت (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:20 (four years ago) link
and you do realize that ilx and public facing social media accounts of politicians are different things, and i am obviously aware of that?
― ت (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:21 (four years ago) link
xps - ah, but one must antagonize them without sounding like an angry fool. especially if you aren't given a free pass as a white male.
― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:21 (four years ago) link
oh aimless is drawing for the idpol now? o tempora, o mores
― ت (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:23 (four years ago) link
Lol is 'free pass as a white male' bcos u remembered Trump
― Camille Paglia is on my partner's NextDoor (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:24 (four years ago) link
do you deny that warren's rhetoric will be judged by a somewhat different standard because she is a woman, only because I said it?
― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:25 (four years ago) link
Trump certainly sounds like an angry fool, but he doesn't aim it at billionaires. just immigrants.
― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:26 (four years ago) link
We've been over this, but Sanders will also be judged (well, smeared) by a different standard thanks to his Jewishness!
― Simon H., Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:27 (four years ago) link
"chumming up" with plutocrats in Warren parlance would be "turn them to chum based on proposed tax rates," which for some reason frighten them.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:29 (four years ago) link
I suspect the main reason Warren's rhetoric isn't as antagonistic towards Gates is because she doesn't want it to be / it's not her style. It's not more complicated than that.
― Simon H., Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:30 (four years ago) link
― No language just sound (Sund4r), Thursday, 7 November 2019 bookmarkflaglink
To get onside with people like Gates/entrepreneurs who have media access to bitch about things they don't like Warren is prepared let him have input in her tax plans?
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:31 (four years ago) link
I saw Warren's tweet as a polite "You don't know what you're talking about" but I guess she was chumming it up with Bill because BERNIE!!!
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:32 (four years ago) link
"input"
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:32 (four years ago) link
I re-read the tweet and it doesn't suggest that Bill have input, only that she'd meet him and explain her plan to him.
― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:33 (four years ago) link
it was subtweeting of a hypothetical sanders tweet to be like "i wouldn't tax you like that bad bernie sanders" to bill gates.
― ت (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:33 (four years ago) link
It won't be 100 billion bill don't worry you won't go hungry xp
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:34 (four years ago) link
Warren murdered Epstein to protect Gates. You heard it here first.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:34 (four years ago) link
i cringed at warren's tweet, but this is a very weird reason to favor one candidate over the other
when you're running for president, it's highly likely that you're going to have to meet and talk with some pretty awful ppl, and if ppl are actually "disgusted" that warren offered to meet with gates (rather than, i guess, calling for him to be shot and bayoneted), it's safe to say that at some point they're going to be horrified by someone bernie agrees to talk to
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:35 (four years ago) link
They won't be horrified because Bernie will talk to no one when he's president. He'll sit alone in the Oval Office growling.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:36 (four years ago) link
subtweeting of a hypothetical sanders tweet
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:37 (four years ago) link
Can't keep up with the xps but "I would love to tell you to your face exactly how much more I would make you pay in taxes" is not particularly chummy.
― No language just sound (Sund4r), Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:37 (four years ago) link
occasionally he will visit the Senate to angrily heckle Joe Manchin
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:38 (four years ago) link
"I would love to tell you to your face exactly how much more I would make you pay in taxes" is not particularly chummy.
That's how I read it.
jim in vancouver's acting like a right winger on Laura Ingraham's in 2012 looking for evidence that AHA YOU SEE Obama was a Kenyan socialist.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:39 (four years ago) link