Gen X: The Generation That Never Existed

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garlic vs. artichokes FITE

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 19:01 (four years ago) link

I don't think anyone would take away Castroville's podunk card ...

sarahell, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 19:06 (four years ago) link

in terms of actual competition, it was garlic vs. lettuce

sarahell, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 19:07 (four years ago) link

tho Salinas (lettuce) had two high schools

sarahell, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 19:07 (four years ago) link

anyway it was a dumb place and I am glad I left

sarahell, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 19:09 (four years ago) link

There really were multiple eightieses; different people could drift through that time in totally separate cultural universes with little awareness of one another.

This is the thing that really hit me maybe ten years ago when I first noticed that kids these days were wearing things that I remember actually owning or experiencing - seeing them combine clothing from groups who absolutely would never have hung out together or actively hated each other.

My high school (7-12 grades) had like 500 people total and were the really big school in the area. We had exactly one goth, maybe five skaters, and like a dozen metalheads total.

joygoat, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 19:38 (four years ago) link

My feeling is that there are certainly generational traits and difference but they are usually discussed in a pretty narrow way and *usually* mean a certain subset of middle class to upper middle class white people -- and ignore lots of those too. Like the 90s is the story of grunge and blah blah blah but is the real story me wearing my Beastie Boys Check Your Head ringer tee, or the other (much more numerous) kids at my school who turned Garth Brooks into the biggest act since the Beatles and still filling football stadiums to this day?

also I think that if you broke things down by race/socioeconomics etc I think you'd find many more commonalities than by generation. hanging out w/my sister's family, i'm struck by how much my nephews (14) have with my brother in law (46), like he complains about the rap they listen to (they do like Eazy E now though since the movie) but they share a lot, even culturally, and sports etc, and basically they all live in the same suburban world and I think they have more in common with each other than they do, for instance, a 14 year old Mexican kid their age living in L.A.

Like a lot of the stuff that is different is pretty superficial: fashion, haircuts, how skinny or not skinny their jeans are, music...but I think their worldview and values are in line and as they get older the superficial differences will fade too.

OTM imo

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 02:57 (four years ago) link

three weeks pass...

gen z aren't millennials

-_- (jim in vancouver), Friday, 15 November 2019 17:54 (four years ago) link

If I'm a boomer, they are millennials, case closed. Now get off my lawn!

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 15 November 2019 17:56 (four years ago) link

ha at “ok edgelord”

and i approve this message (Hunt3r), Friday, 15 November 2019 17:56 (four years ago) link

i would find being called "karen" by a gen zer deeply funny so i'm in favor of it

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 15 November 2019 17:58 (four years ago) link

im related to two boomer karen’s, this nameshamegame is obviously lame, get back in your lane shitstains.

and i approve this message (Hunt3r), Friday, 15 November 2019 18:03 (four years ago) link

for this Gen-Z-er, the name is permanently linked to the spoken-word bridge of "Steal My Sunshine"

weird ilx but sb (Doctor Casino), Friday, 15 November 2019 18:04 (four years ago) link

or no wait i'm a millennial, i forgot again

weird ilx but sb (Doctor Casino), Friday, 15 November 2019 18:04 (four years ago) link

Apostrphe

and i approve this message (Hunt3r), Friday, 15 November 2019 18:05 (four years ago) link

I know we been saying ok boomer but y’all can’t let Gen X get away with dumb shit either. They probably still hate gay people, are the generation where Karen’s exist, the ones who got mad about the Starbucks Xmas cup, and buy dumb shit like Hot Wheels edition Camaros lmao

— Edwin Mezantino (@mezzizle) November 6, 2019


"they probably still hate gay people" is an interesting rallying cry by the guy with 138 followers, let's write a trend piece!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 15 November 2019 18:08 (four years ago) link

I was going to point to Tunic (Song For Karen) as exhibit A in Gen X's embrace of Karens, only to learn that Kim Gordon is very much a Boomer.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 15 November 2019 18:08 (four years ago) link

Except the song is for Karen Carpenter.

santa clause four (suzy), Friday, 15 November 2019 18:10 (four years ago) link

lol, suzy beat me to it

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 15 November 2019 18:10 (four years ago) link

Lol, I'm aware of that

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 15 November 2019 18:11 (four years ago) link

karen carpenter: famous to boomers, known to xers, unknown to millennials, mark of shame to zers

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 15 November 2019 18:11 (four years ago) link

Fight this generation

June Pointer’s Valentine’s Day Secret Admirer Note Author (calstars), Friday, 15 November 2019 18:12 (four years ago) link

ok imaginary generation

maffew12, Friday, 15 November 2019 18:22 (four years ago) link

it's funny how all these descriptions are basically describing the same type of upper middle class white person at different ages hmmm

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 15 November 2019 18:34 (four years ago) link

haha yeah this isn't a generational thing, it's a demographic thing

Οὖτις, Friday, 15 November 2019 18:40 (four years ago) link

age is a demographic

-_- (jim in vancouver), Friday, 15 November 2019 18:42 (four years ago) link

age groups are demographics would be what i was meaning there

-_- (jim in vancouver), Friday, 15 November 2019 18:43 (four years ago) link

ok it's a non-age-specific demographic thing

Οὖτις, Friday, 15 November 2019 18:43 (four years ago) link

lots of defensive boomers light in itt

-_- (jim in vancouver), Friday, 15 November 2019 18:44 (four years ago) link

ok zoomer

pomenitul, Friday, 15 November 2019 18:45 (four years ago) link

it's naht a zoomah

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 15 November 2019 18:46 (four years ago) link

Lol, this whole Karen thing comes down to young people being unable to differentiate anyone over the age of 40 or describe them as anything other than old.

Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Friday, 15 November 2019 19:08 (four years ago) link

whatever KAREN

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 15 November 2019 19:14 (four years ago) link

Go to the pub, TH.

santa clause four (suzy), Friday, 15 November 2019 19:15 (four years ago) link

ok zoomer

― pomenitul, Friday, November 15, 2019 10:45 AM (thirty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i wish i was this young

-_- (jim in vancouver), Friday, 15 November 2019 19:16 (four years ago) link

suzy i have been shanghaied into.... requirements which from which i hope to soon disentangle myself, don’t judge me

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 15 November 2019 19:18 (four years ago) link

standard retort to a youngin trying to use "lol u old" as an insult: Some day you'll be old like me, but there'll never be a day where I'm as dumb as you.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 15 November 2019 19:36 (four years ago) link

I just want to state that I find the idea of allegedly woke young people calling me "Karen" so painfully on-brand with the baseline myopia and racism of humanity that I can't really do much more than sigh

brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, 15 November 2019 19:38 (four years ago) link

lotsa ageism in this conversation
maligning the old for being their age isn't any more acceptable than maligning the young

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 15 November 2019 19:39 (four years ago) link

look if you're gonna call me Karen, i'm gonna call you Caleb

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 15 November 2019 19:44 (four years ago) link

Ok Brayden

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 15 November 2019 19:47 (four years ago) link

like that's rude
i would never say that

this infighting is getting me down tbh

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 15 November 2019 19:47 (four years ago) link

but I don't think it's "for being their age"; the generational signifier is shorthand for an objectionable perspective/attitude

jaymc, Friday, 15 November 2019 19:48 (four years ago) link

deeply racist against a certain sino-tibetan language-speaking group resident near the thailand-myanmar border

mookieproof, Friday, 15 November 2019 19:49 (four years ago) link

a broad generational smear is an ageist smear by nature isn't it?

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 15 November 2019 19:49 (four years ago) link

no offense but i'm not taking any of this at all seriously fwiw, that's the genx way

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 15 November 2019 19:50 (four years ago) link

i was reading something in the ft a while back and it mentioned that intergenerational inequality (of the type "when my parents were my age they had x and y and i have a and b, i'll never have x and y") is actually felt more keenly by young people than contemporary inequality. i will never snipe at younger generations for their resentment of me, in 30 years time people will be thinking "fuck you you entitled millennial" and they will be right, because their lot will be even worse, and my generation has been almost as complacent as the ones that came before

-_- (jim in vancouver), Friday, 15 November 2019 19:52 (four years ago) link

honestly, young people have many more years of life ahead of them than I do, so, there's that. If they want to resent the fact that I (and my generation) had way less student loan debt than they do, they are welcome to it, but I can resent the fact that fewer of their peers are dying or dead.

sarahell, Friday, 15 November 2019 20:04 (four years ago) link


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