Rolling Marvel Cinematic Universe thread (+ a poll: Classic or Dud?)

P sure Immortan Joe's face being ripped off might have upset me as a 7 year old

O sorry spoilers

Mad Max might be my favorite action films. But they could suffer the homogeneous fate if they keep cranking out movies.

Fury worked largely due to the gap between movies and managing to up the world building and over the top vehicular mayhem from Road Warrior.

Still possibly my favorite action flick of the century

Thunderdome can go fuck itself

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/014/245/8d8.gif

I have no memory of a face being ripped off.

I was quite surprised a while ago by what some of you would even shield your young teenagers from. It's often something completely unpredictable that scars children (like my youthful trauma over Labyrinth, Dark Crystal and John Cleese's Clockwork).

It's really fast.

Also, if I had a kid I would take that kid to Fury Road in a heartbeat, faster than I’d give that kid up for adoption were they to ask to see an Avengers movie

The sexual politics of Fury Road might make it tougher or more challenging for younger kids, and even if that stuff goes over their heads it's still a pretty relentless, intense movie. I love all the Mad Max movies, even Thunderdome, with Thunderdome probably being (by design?) the best for kids. It's still violent but it's a lot goofier, and iirc the only one of the three with no rape or implied rape. Great score, too.

(Should note that I did see Fury Road again recently, this time with my older kid, and while she sat through it I can't get her to even consider Thunderdome. One and done.)

(The face rip is really fast, that is.)

You don't remember this?

https://cinemorgue.fandom.com/wiki/Hugh_Keays-Byrne?file=Immortan_Joe%27s_death.png

I mean it's how he died!

Bleh. Just imagine bacdude with no mandible

*a dude

"I mean they're just going to wind up burning themselves with that shit ultimately, particularly as they continue to lean heavier on regurgitation of their own supply. Cut to five years from now as tumbleweeds drift through a multiplex"

Independent theaters will have been killed by then.

― now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Friday, October 25, 2019 8:23 AM (yesterday

The Art Theater in Champaign announced today they're closing in six days.

― now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Saturday, October 26, 2019 9:45 AM (four days ago)

Fathom have been told that two weeks ago's 40th anniversary national Alien screenings are the last time they will ever be able to show any Fox movie.

Balboa Theatre in SF had a Planet Of The Apes festival booked weekend after next, have now lost all eight films to which tickets had already been sold

Christmas screenings of Die Hard have been pulled from multiple theatres in the US and Canada

not sure where today's Leave Her To Heaven screening is meant to be happening

uggghghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Man, Fuck Disney.

KILL THE MOUSE

any opportunity to be total dicks

No one would have expected them to be particularly cool about the Fox acquisition but they're just straight-up showing their asses with this shit.

There was a Savage Dragon panel with Malcolm unable to comprehend the commercial failure of Speed Racer film.

An outsider/artist friend of mine asked me at the time, genuinely curious (as I worked in Hollywood), “Why was Speed Racer a flop?”

My answer: “Because nobody went to see it!”

Purely bad timing for my part. I’d probably have seen it 3+ times in the theater if my life hadn’t been a smoking compost pile at the time. Granted, this would not have made up the necessary difference between budget and business.

Thanks for making me want to see it again right now when I’m supposed to be going to bed.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/04/opinion/martin-scorsese-marvel.html

Some say that Hitchcock’s pictures had a sameness to them, and perhaps that’s true — Hitchcock himself wondered about it. But the sameness of today’s franchise pictures is something else again. Many of the elements that define cinema as I know it are there in Marvel pictures. What’s not there is revelation, mystery or genuine emotional danger. Nothing is at risk. The pictures are made to satisfy a specific set of demands, and they are designed as variations on a finite number of themes.

It’s genuinely tiresome.

The criticism of MCU movies as if decade upon decade of popular filmmaking hasn’t also been full of trite save the cat silliness, I mean

the MCU I don’t really find tiresome at all - maybe it could use more terror, paranoia, and hopelessness overall, but the it wouldn’t do what it says on the tin.

the black panther sucks because it’s missing genuine emotional danger? You officially did not watch the black panther, the movie

That there was bad stuff in the past doesn't mean that the nature of the bad stuff hasn't changed.

the more he elaborates the dumber this gets

the more he elaborates the dumber this gets

the more you post that etc etc

lol idk why that double-posted but I stand by it

He's right, you're wrong.

the black panther sucks because it’s missing genuine emotional danger?

well, not *just* for that reason

He's right, you're wrong.

― Pauline Male (Eric H.), Monday, November 4, 2019

he's not even wrong. there have never been more opportunities for "risky" work to find an audience. just not at the multiplex. boo hoo, pour one out.

i mean of course it's ridiculous that Disney has now made more Maleficents than Snow Whites but it's pretty rich for a guy who puts "gimme shelter" in every other scene to bemoan the decline of symphonic audiences. now that was real music! these blues guys can't even read standard notation!

lol haha i am a cineaste pew pew upon your blockbuster framchise

xpost so he's...rockist?

Back in (decade) we made movies where actors said lines that (ham steak) audiences, on backdrops of pure (propane) with a truck and two (atelier)s

Another way of putting it would be that they are everything that the films of Paul Thomas Anderson or Claire Denis or Spike Lee or Ari Aster or Kathryn Bigelow or Wes Anderson are not.

I mean I’m no moviegoer, but everywhere I go these past few weeks, I hear ppl talking about this Korean horror film that’s all the rage. Meanwhile, Terminator just flopped.

None of us are in the multiplex heartland, let's be honest.

the fanboy reaction to this (on twitter, not on ilx) is so sad. the guy named a bunch of contemporary filmmakers he likes and ppl still act like he's william f buckley dissing the beatles in 1964.

Neanderthal I know you’re joking but... otm?

like what really does bum me out a little is the sudden discovery that martin scorsese is hella corny.

When the Hollywood studio system was still alive and well, the tension between the artists and the people who ran the business was constant and intense, but it was a productive tension that gave us some of the greatest films ever made — in the words of Bob Dylan, the best of them were “heroic and visionary.”

Today, that tension is gone, and there are some in the business with absolute indifference to the very question of art and an attitude toward the history of cinema that is both dismissive and proprietary — a lethal combination.

And I get that theatrical exhibition means a lot to him, I don’t begrudge him for that. I just don’t share the sense of “terrible sadness.”

appealing to bob dylan as an authority so on the nose it hurts

1) - this is great free publicity and that is almost certainly the prime reason why he's keeping this ball rolling
2) - this is the real crux of his argument and who could argue with it: "So, you might ask, what’s my problem? Why not just let superhero films and other franchise films be? The reason is simple. In many places around this country and around the world, franchise films are now your primary choice if you want to see something on the big screen. It’s a perilous time in film exhibition, and there are fewer independent theaters than ever."
3) - his other arguments as per marvel movies in general are admittedly hella flimsy, old man yells at cgi cloud and mostly appear to be predicated on the fact that he has no grounding in this universe and it holds no joy for him at all because of that
4) - in general scorcese has done more to turn more people on to more otherwise unremembered films and fucking awesome piece of art than almost anyone so i'm perfectly happy to let him have this, especially given that the argument against him on social media is predominantly NUH UH DR STRANGE = BRAKHAGE
5) - Parasite has made $100 million worldwide and is the feel-good cineaste story of the year; Joker has made ten times that in a month
6) - man who has devoted his entire life to film is allowed to be sad that the current successful business model for studios is "spend $250 million dollars, make $500 million"

And I get that theatrical exhibition means a lot to him, I don’t begrudge him for that. I just don’t share the sense of “terrible sadness.”

xps hey pal that's nobel prize winner™ bob dylan to you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKiIroiCvZ0

damn autocorrect making me look like I don’t know the difference between its and it’s

forks otm tho

With any luck, the soundtrack to Guardians of the Galaxy 3 will overlap heavily with Casino and Goodfellas