as far as class warfare movies go, i would say
Burning=Shoplifters > La Ceremonie =Parasite >>>>Snowpiercer=Sorry to Bother You
still need to see Us, Ready or Not, Hustlers
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 27 October 2019 03:15 (four years ago) link
It's pretty much the movie that I wanted Us to be.
Oh good, other people picked up on the doppelganger element. I liked it as a black comedy of inequality and the "problems" of one-percenter parents. The subsequent excursion into thriller/horror fits, but I agree that the film would have profited from a tightening up of the running time.
― Anne Hedonia (j.lu), Sunday, 27 October 2019 23:10 (four years ago) link
I loved Us! I think as much as Get Out
haven't seen Parasite yet but based on Okja, Snowpiercer I'm only somewhat hopeful
― Dan S, Sunday, 27 October 2019 23:24 (four years ago) link
Parasite is so much better than either Okja or Snowpiercer.
― Roz, Monday, 28 October 2019 01:55 (four years ago) link
never seen okja but snowpiercer is hot garbage.
Memories of Murder and Mother are both capital G Great films and The Host is a double capital G Great Genre film
i've avoided seeing Okja because he is sure as shit gonna make me feel for the big hippo thing and then kill it. i've played the last guardian; can't fool me again
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 28 October 2019 03:41 (four years ago) link
I liked this a lot. The symbolism is club-you-over-the-head, but it works despite/because of that. And it's pretty funny through the first two-thirds. I didn't mind the ending, it felt like that was where it was always headed.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 4 November 2019 03:54 (four years ago) link
this was kind of a hot mess? it definitely shook me but i'm not sure i enjoyed the ride. idk so many "powerful" things leave me feeling exhausted these days.
― cheese canopy (map), Monday, 4 November 2019 18:19 (four years ago) link
Didn't really seem like a mess to me, I thought it was pretty tightly constructed.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 4 November 2019 18:52 (four years ago) link
oh no it was extremely tight of course (although maybe there were some pacing / pov issues near the end that could have been handled more carefully?), it was just too slickly constructed and hyper-meaningful for my tastes. like i think i respect that it's aiming to be a shakespearean tragedy about capitalism but it's also in the form of a 32 oz monster energy drink and it was all too much for me tbh.
― cheese canopy (map), Monday, 4 November 2019 19:37 (four years ago) link
i mean i definitely *felt* a lot during this movie but it was ultimately kind of exhausting. of course it was also funny throughout but the humor was also too frenetic for me. like i laughed louder when renee zelwegger pushed the bad sculpture off its pedestal in front of her ex's house in the otherwise very sad but also similarly profound judy garland biopic that i saw last weekend, maybe because the humorous moment had a bit more space around it and r.z.'s performance in that movie is extremely good.
― cheese canopy (map), Monday, 4 November 2019 19:44 (four years ago) link
there's several indelible images stuck in my mind from this film even now (the "ghost" shocking the boy eating cake, the kick down the stairs, shaving peachfuzz) but this isn't a super thoughtful or challenging movie... i'm fairly certain it was never meant to be.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 4 November 2019 19:52 (four years ago) link
the image stuck in my head is the dogs eating the meat on the skewer stuck in the corpse
― cheese canopy (map), Monday, 4 November 2019 19:58 (four years ago) link
yeah that's a good one
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 4 November 2019 19:59 (four years ago) link
at least what it says about the trauma of capitalism is true. it may not be super challenging or whatever but it's otm, and in the form of a slapstick comedy/thriller. for instance, how the trauma of capitalism perpetuates itself across generations and how it's larger than any bogeyman character. idk these aren't exactly the easiest concepts to present in a mainstream film? but tbh i don't watch very many movies so.
― cheese canopy (map), Monday, 4 November 2019 20:05 (four years ago) link
quoting myself upthread but if you want to see some other films in the same vein that are as good/better:
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 4 November 2019 20:07 (four years ago) link
haha thanks though i'm not sure i have it in me to watch a film with similar themes for .. a while
― cheese canopy (map), Monday, 4 November 2019 20:08 (four years ago) link
it's also in the form of a 32 oz monster energy drink and it was all too much for me tbh.
haha, yeah that's a fair description.
Its central arguments and symbolism are super on-the-nose, but for me they landed with some oomph because the writing, acting and filmmaking were all sharp and often funny. (Until they weren't.) The long scene where they descend and descend and descend from the rich house to their semi-basement apartment, in a growing flood, only to find their home literally submerged in shit — on the paper that's grindingly obvious, but in the execution it was scary and heartbreaking.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 4 November 2019 20:12 (four years ago) link
I actually liked this more than Burning — or enjoyed it more, I guess. I liked Burning but it felt a little remote to me, unsurprising given its source material.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 4 November 2019 20:13 (four years ago) link
i dunno, there's so many moments in Burning that felt like pure honest complex dreams to me. it's a more mystical film i guess, don't think i'd say remote? my sense is that a lot of folks who fell head over heels for parasite (and why it's so very popular) is that audiences are self-congratulating themselves on appreciating the complex class issues of what amounts to a cartoon. but maybe i'm being snobby i dunno.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 4 November 2019 20:17 (four years ago) link
i have at least four friends who basically never see movies who were raving to me about how brilliant this was and i feel like a total dorkus malorkus saying "yeah, i love the director and i saw this twice and it was... very good" and then they're all like "WHY DON'T YOU LOVE IT?!?!?" and there's no way to adequately explain that without referencing a lot of his films and other people's films that i know they haven't seen.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 4 November 2019 20:19 (four years ago) link
maybe the right answer to "why don't you love it" is to give them a thumb drive with Mother and Memories of Murder on it and ask them to check back with me in three months when they get around to watching it to see it they agree?
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 4 November 2019 20:21 (four years ago) link
i was SO taken with those two movies and then host was such a great oddball genre film that i was psyched to go wherever this guy wanted to go and then, well, snowpiercer.with parasite, i think i've come to the conclusion that Bong is an immense and great stylist but that he's not going to likely level up into something more highbrow and affecting now that he has more money and fame a'la Park Chan Wook or Lynch. Maybe you could make a comparison to Miike? Dunno.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 4 November 2019 20:24 (four years ago) link
Yeah he's definitely more of a populist/popcorn director than e.g. Lee Chang-dong. But he's an interesting and talented one, I think. I agree that Mother is probably his best movie, and it is surprising in a lot of ways — stylistically and narratively — that Parasite isn't.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 4 November 2019 20:32 (four years ago) link
i really like him! i'm just in the unpleasant indie fuck position of being unable to avoid saying "his earlier films are much better"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCqjR1gHyIQin any case your post made me realize i should see more Chang-dong, so thanks for that! recommendation for the best one to jump into?
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 4 November 2019 20:36 (four years ago) link
Besides Burning I only know Secret Sunshine and Poetry, both good.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 4 November 2019 20:38 (four years ago) link
will try poetry and report back
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 4 November 2019 20:40 (four years ago) link
mother was the one for me too
― cheese canopy (map), Monday, 4 November 2019 21:19 (four years ago) link
it's been a while but i remember thinking it was on par with great hitchcock
― cheese canopy (map), Monday, 4 November 2019 21:20 (four years ago) link
I liked this a lot more than Burning but I would never think to compare them.
― Simon H., Monday, 4 November 2019 21:24 (four years ago) link
I enjoyed the hell out of this movie.
― JRN, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 04:19 (four years ago) link
Count me among those who haven't ever really gotten terribly into this dude's work up until this movie and fully embraced the crossover. Enjoy re-rewatching The Host to the rest of you, tho.
― Pauline Male (Eric H.), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 04:35 (four years ago) link
oh hey if you want another class warfare movie from this year (and one that will definitely be in my faves of 2019), try 'The Last Black Man in San Francisco'
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 04:36 (four years ago) link
Parasite was so good that I don't want to see any other class warfare movie from this or any other year ever again. If anyone puts on The Last Black Man in San Francisco while I'm in the room I'm getting up and leaving.
― JRN, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 04:46 (four years ago) link
that's the spirit!
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 04:59 (four years ago) link
oh hey, here's another one you'll want to leave the room for that I just remembered that's not so much class warfare as an eco-comedy/drama with a lot of bong's penchant for comic bookish magic realism: Woman at Warhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2v3_jHrvBQ
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 05:25 (four years ago) link
https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/drqrii/im_bong_joon_ho_director_of_parasite_ama/
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 7 November 2019 16:18 (four years ago) link
Parasite is the best move ive seen this year
Snowpiercer was also great craic
― The World According To.... (Michael B), Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:36 (four years ago) link
this was ridiculously entertaining, and powerful at the end. definitely preferred this to snowpiercer and okja (okja was similarly structured for maximum gut-punch), and the cast was incredibly charming.
― kanye kendrick frank kendrick frank kanye (voodoo chili), Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:58 (four years ago) link
i liked snowpiercer a lot, it's dumb but imo dumb things are good
this movie was excellent though. i would like to vigorously disagree with everyone upthread and say the climax is the best part
― american bradass (BradNelson), Sunday, 10 November 2019 00:23 (four years ago) link
besides the ghost scene
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, October 27, 2019 8:41 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
has anyone informed you that doesn't happen
though the ending *is* depressing in a fundamentally similar way
― american bradass (BradNelson), Sunday, 10 November 2019 00:28 (four years ago) link
the flooding scene in this movie made me wanna die
― american bradass (BradNelson), Sunday, 10 November 2019 00:31 (four years ago) link
okja is really bad imho but this is incredible, best dark comedy since get out
― flopson, Sunday, 10 November 2019 00:39 (four years ago) link
“Fundamentally similar” is close enough for me thanks
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 10 November 2019 00:49 (four years ago) link
i did not enjoy okja but i'm glad i got to see that jake gyllenhaal performance anyway
― american bradass (BradNelson), Sunday, 10 November 2019 00:57 (four years ago) link
Sister sitting on top of the toilet smoking in the flooding bathroom was an incredible shot, imo
― president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Sunday, 10 November 2019 03:12 (four years ago) link
is there a thread for the lighthouse yet?
― flopson, Sunday, 10 November 2019 03:45 (four years ago) link
arr it be The Lighthouse (Eggers, 2019) - Pattinson, Dafoe, sea shanties
― Simon H., Sunday, 10 November 2019 03:51 (four years ago) link
saw this in the theater tonight. really really amazing movie
― esempio (crüt), Sunday, 10 November 2019 05:10 (four years ago) link
i have at least four friends who basically never see movies who were raving to me about how brilliant this was
this is me right now
― esempio (crüt), Sunday, 10 November 2019 05:35 (four years ago) link
No offence to anyone above who missed loads of stuff, like, x
― e-skate to the chapeau (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 February 2021 01:20 (three years ago) link
i also watched this last night!
― kinder, Saturday, 27 February 2021 09:57 (three years ago) link
this was the last movie i saw in a theatre before pandemic :(
― superdeep borehole (harbl), Saturday, 27 February 2021 14:09 (three years ago) link
Mine was memories of murder!
― e-skate to the chapeau (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 February 2021 14:24 (three years ago) link
omg same! I think? I did go to the ballet the day before lockdown
― flamboyant goon tie included, Saturday, 27 February 2021 14:31 (three years ago) link
also same. had just seen uncut gems around the same time.
― class project pat (m bison), Saturday, 27 February 2021 15:18 (three years ago) link
Invisible Man was mine. well, I did make it to Tenet in the theater (as it was a low period of transmission and it was limited seating), but I haven't been since.
― Red Nerussi (Neanderthal), Saturday, 27 February 2021 17:01 (three years ago) link
considering going to the movies was a 2x/week hobby for me, it's incredibly sad to have lost that. I used to pick showings at times that would be less attended, and just enjoy the peaceful evening alone in the theater vibing to the movies while drinking comically large sodas.
― Red Nerussi (Neanderthal), Saturday, 27 February 2021 17:03 (three years ago) link
uncut gems was my second to last
― superdeep borehole (harbl), Saturday, 27 February 2021 18:19 (three years ago) link
Parasite and The Lighthouse were my last 2, on my last trip to Atlanta, Dec 2019.
― Motoroller Scampotron (WmC), Saturday, 27 February 2021 18:20 (three years ago) link
Our local film festival was right before the first UK lockdown and I saw lots Inc Parasite, Lighthouse and JoJo Rabbit but the last thing I actually saw on the big screen was Black Narcissus in a church.
― Well *I* know who he is (aldo), Saturday, 27 February 2021 20:52 (three years ago) link
We went to a few things at GFF last year as well and it's strange thinking back now. The last things I saw were Bacurau, which was utterly packed out in a hot cinema 2, and Children Of Men.
― brain (krakow), Saturday, 27 February 2021 22:21 (three years ago) link
My last was Portrait of a Lady On Fire which, bizarrely, was mentioned in Coronation Street last night using both the French and English titles.
― Cocteau Twinks (jed_), Saturday, 27 February 2021 23:01 (three years ago) link
I've been making Jjapaguri (a combination of Chapagetti and Neoguri), consisting of two different types of ramen and flavored with black bean sauce and shrimp broth. It is not made into a soup but eaten with less liquid as a savory noodle dish.
It was featured in that scene where Jang Hye-jin as Chung Sook the replacement housekeeper/cook was frantically making up a dish to satisfy the lady owner who was coming home. She made it by adding big sauteed chunks of sirloin
― Dan S, Monday, 26 September 2022 02:13 (one year ago) link
Just watched this over the weekend with my 19 year old son, at his recommendation. The entire cast is a treasure.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 19 December 2022 23:34 (one year ago) link
After seeing this a little while ago, I watched Memories of Murder and the short film Influenza last week. They're all powerful and feats of impressive control; maybe he's yet to make (or I've yet to see) the film that really connects in a deeper way.
― Halfway there but for you, Monday, 19 December 2022 23:51 (one year ago) link
So guys
This film is pretty good fyi
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 10 April 2023 22:12 (one year ago) link
Well done.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 10 April 2023 22:45 (one year ago) link
I got there in the end!
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 10 April 2023 22:45 (one year ago) link
But have you seen The Host?
― Beatles in My Passway (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 11 April 2023 00:17 (one year ago) link
I've scheduled that one for 2034
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 11 April 2023 06:51 (one year ago) link
you should also check out Memories of Murder before the end of the century
― calzino, Tuesday, 11 April 2023 07:50 (one year ago) link
otm
― Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Tuesday, 11 April 2023 09:23 (one year ago) link
I tried watching this recently and for whatever reason, it gets way too suspenseful for me. There's a certain kind of suspense that has always caused me enormous levels of stress - that in which the protagonist is about to get caught doing something they shouldn't be. That scene seems like a masterful take on that, but unfortunately, fight or flight kicks in for me and my response is to turn the TV off and run out of the room. The first part where I shut it off was...
...when the Park family is coming home when their camping trip gets rained out and everybody is hurrying to hide. Ki-jung sliding under the coffee table as the family came walking up the stairs was just nightmarish levels of suspense for me and I noped out.
Then I left the movie off for about a month. I had allowed myself to come to terms with action of the movie and it had mellowed a little in my mind. I had thought that the suspense probably couldn't get any higher and it would taper off quickly, so I made another attempt at finishing it in the last week or so. And I got just a few minutes until...
...Mrs. Kim kicks the old housekeeper down the stairs (and might have broken her neck???).
I kinda would like to finish the movie (and last time I watched it, Hulu said it was on it's way out, so I might have missed my chance), but it also might just not be for me.
...at which point I couldn't deal with it and had to shut it off again.
― peace, man, Tuesday, 11 April 2023 11:28 (one year ago) link
the tension is masterfully delivered
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 11 April 2023 12:16 (one year ago) link
yeah, scenes like that are tough for me also! i remember an INCREDIBLE feeling of tension in the theater in those parts; the coffee-table scene is what my brain goes to when i picture this movie. i also remember a really vivid sense that i was sharing this same nightmare with a couple hundred other people. i think that made it easier to bear, in a way?
― got it in the blood, the kid's a pelican (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 11 April 2023 13:03 (one year ago) link
i rewatched the host recently for the first time since i saw it in theaters and i did not love it as much as i remembered loving it. but i also saw memories of murder for the first time and that one is amazing. anyone who loves zodiac should also watch memories of murder, they are very similar conceptually in a lot of ways.
― na (NA), Tuesday, 11 April 2023 13:12 (one year ago) link
I’ve been wanting to watch MoM for so long but my wife is incredibly squeamish so might need to find a solo night
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 11 April 2023 16:03 (one year ago) link
its such a tonally rich and strange and playful movie but when it wants to hit you, oof
― Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Tuesday, 11 April 2023 18:39 (one year ago) link