the problem is that we all have posting powers. distribute them more responsibly and this conversation woulda been over hours ago
― difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 20 November 2019 17:08 (four years ago) link
i think at this point we're just kinda riffing on the inconsistent and not-thought-through aspects of the plot. he says "everyone" but he also plans to sell the powers for profit (if we're remembering correctly?), which means not everyone would get them, and also anyway if everyone got them it wouldn't necessarily mean an end to some people being more super or more dangerous than others, as DJP is pointing out.
i don't think any of that matters much, because i'm more interested in what motivates the guy and what he's trying to say, and what the film is saying by casting those motives as blinkered and petty. but the political debate itself has run out of gas after 15 years and more recently after 150 posts so y'know it's time to goof around a while and then start actually getting some work done with this misbegotten wednesday
― weird ilx but sb (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 20 November 2019 17:08 (four years ago) link
Yea i feel bad for my poor training class that i abandoned while having this debate.
I probably should have checked in with them.
― Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 November 2019 17:19 (four years ago) link
my work's at an important stage! it seemed unnecessary to...
― difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 20 November 2019 17:23 (four years ago) link
I really don't know how to have this conversation. Syndrome literally says 'when EVERYONE is super', I've posted the clip of him saying 'when EVERYONE is super. That clip is called 'EVERYONE'S SUPER'. So i just don't know how to keep arguing with 'presumably not everybody would be granted powers'.
Frederick, he's a madman. Watch the rest of the movie beyond that YouTube clip.
― paris geller spinoff pitch (morrisp), Wednesday, 20 November 2019 17:32 (four years ago) link
Also all superpowers aren't the same.
― brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 20 November 2019 17:34 (four years ago) link
Also these are not real people
― Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 November 2019 17:37 (four years ago) link
now do Frozen
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 20 November 2019 17:52 (four years ago) link
Do you want to destroy a proletariat?
― Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 November 2019 17:53 (four years ago) link
Frozen is sapphic incest propaganda
― brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 20 November 2019 17:58 (four years ago) link
And one thought crystallizes like an icy blastI can't stop staring at my sister's ass
― Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 November 2019 18:02 (four years ago) link
👎
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 20 November 2019 18:18 (four years ago) link
okay, let's stop doing Frozen now
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 20 November 2019 18:27 (four years ago) link
maybe scorsese should weigh in on this one
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 20 November 2019 18:47 (four years ago) link
Gaslighting!
― paris geller spinoff pitch (morrisp), Wednesday, November 20, 2019 7:38 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
has anybody told you that this is not gaslighting
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 20 November 2019 19:08 (four years ago) link
Why, is that a pet peeve of yours?
― paris geller spinoff pitch (morrisp), Wednesday, 20 November 2019 19:30 (four years ago) link
So Scorcese really don't like Marvel huh
― Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 November 2019 19:36 (four years ago) link
― paris geller spinoff pitch (morrisp), Wednesday, November 20, 2019 12:30 PM (thirty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
yeah bc it is a very specific term that does not mean "someone has a radically different reading of a movie than me and they're insisting on it"
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 20 November 2019 20:06 (four years ago) link
the script for The Incredibles is plot point for plot point and at every step philosophically a close approximation of The Fountainhead, if you don't see if you have blinders on i'm sorry that's simply how it is. nb i have neither seen the incredibles nor read the fountainhead.
― omar little, Wednesday, 20 November 2019 20:09 (four years ago) link
brad, it wasn't about his reading of the movie; it was that he was being untruthful about its basic story, apparently in hopes that we would also forget what the movie was about. I conceded that he was not literally engaging in psychological torture or abuse.
― paris geller spinoff pitch (morrisp), Wednesday, 20 November 2019 20:18 (four years ago) link
*concede
― paris geller spinoff pitch (morrisp), Wednesday, 20 November 2019 20:19 (four years ago) link
On the off chance that someone might want to discuss the Marvel Cinematic Universe at some point in the future, is there a place where we might go to do that? Do you guys know?
― Yul, Tied: A Celebration of Brynner in Bondage (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 20 November 2019 20:23 (four years ago) link
look it's called synergy
― difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 20 November 2019 20:26 (four years ago) link
Gonna be a long wait for Phase 4
― paris geller spinoff pitch (morrisp), Wednesday, 20 November 2019 20:27 (four years ago) link
let's take it back to Marvel
https://www.reddit.com/r/disney/comments/4kfaqv/are_the_incredibles_in_the_marvel_universe_now/
― omar little, Wednesday, 20 November 2019 20:28 (four years ago) link
― omar little, Wednesday, November 20, 2019 3:09 PM bookmarkflaglink
Lol
― Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 November 2019 21:02 (four years ago) link
This derail is so much more entertaining than the thread had been previously.
speaking of democracy being a bad idea and some entities having too much power
"the forseeable future of how movies are made, shown, and seen?"for the love of fucking christ― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, October 24, 2019 2:34 AM (four weeks ago)
for the love of fucking christ
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, October 24, 2019 2:34 AM (four weeks ago)
(four weeks ago)
― insecurity bear (sic), Wednesday, 20 November 2019 21:35 (four years ago) link
Is there actually a thread where we can anticipate Frozen 2?
My one wish is that it treats the trashy retcon Olaf's Frozen Adventure as non-canon.
― hip musical crush (morrisp), Wednesday, 20 November 2019 23:54 (four years ago) link
Disney's newest movie FROZEN, loosely based on The Snow Queen
― insecurity bear (sic), Thursday, 21 November 2019 00:08 (four years ago) link
thx, sic
― hip musical crush (morrisp), Thursday, 21 November 2019 00:10 (four years ago) link
Olaf's Frozen Adventure
ugh @ this thuleist swill
― difficult listening hour, Thursday, 21 November 2019 00:58 (four years ago) link
lmao it's gonna be fun to see just how crazy this thread gets in the 5 months between now and the next MCU release
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 21 November 2019 00:59 (four years ago) link
It's practically inert when there are actually current movies to discuss.
― Yul, Tied: A Celebration of Brynner in Bondage (Old Lunch), Thursday, 21 November 2019 02:26 (four years ago) link
place your bets on the first one to flop:https://collider.com/upcoming-new-superhero-movies-2016-2020-release-dates/
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 21 November 2019 02:47 (four years ago) link
New Mutants seems like the obvious one. Hope I'm wrong though!
― Nhex, Thursday, 21 November 2019 02:49 (four years ago) link
Hope they all fucking bomb
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 21 November 2019 02:50 (four years ago) link
i will admit that i'm into maisie williams as rahne but i won't likely see any of these at all as I'm pretty burnt out. Maybe once they're on video.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 21 November 2019 02:53 (four years ago) link
for purposes of this thread, New Mutants /= MCU
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 21 November 2019 02:58 (four years ago) link
Fair enough. Eternals then
― Nhex, Thursday, 21 November 2019 03:05 (four years ago) link
yeah that's gonna be interesting... little-known and tbh p goofy project orthogonal to mainstream MU/MCU... but hey Guardians worked out okay
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 21 November 2019 03:20 (four years ago) link
The Jared Leto movie will flop, Birds of Prey might
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Thursday, 21 November 2019 03:26 (four years ago) link
aw cmon Jared Leto as ILX's own Dr. Morbius will pack 'em in at the multiplex
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 21 November 2019 03:44 (four years ago) link
i've been saying this over and over again but once more: chloe zhao is a great filmmaker and i WILL actually see Eternals in the theaters for her sake but i'm not expecting it to be CINEMA mwah haw haw
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 21 November 2019 04:07 (four years ago) link
(four weeks ago)― insecurity bear (sic), Thursday, November 21, 2019 8:35 AM (twelve hours ago)
― insecurity bear (sic), Thursday, November 21, 2019 8:35 AM (twelve hours ago)
since posting this, a December 7th screening of Jingle All The Way has been withdrawn from the Redmond Theatre in Detroit, a fact I read after returning from a Seattle theatre that has it scheduled for the 19th
― insecurity bear (sic), Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:01 (four years ago) link
a) Goodb) Insisting that the MCU is what's responsible for this isn't any better a look than four weeks ago.
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:46 (four years ago) link
do you think repealing the Paramount Decrees is good?
― insecurity bear (sic), Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:51 (four years ago) link
No, of course not.
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:57 (four years ago) link
Disney wasn’t subject to the Paramount Decrees (just fyi)
― hip musical crush (morrisp), Thursday, 21 November 2019 14:02 (four years ago) link
The world where the Disney-Fox merger went through is the only of all possible worlds where sic goes to bat for certified popcorn classic Jingle All the Way.
― War Crimes Tribunal of the Network Stars (Old Lunch), Thursday, 21 November 2019 14:16 (four years ago) link
Further to my earlier post:
I remember Alan Moore many years ago talking about a 1970s UK fanzine article that raised the question of fascism in relation to superhero comics, and how influential this was on his thinking about the form - so this isn't a new thing for him, or for comics fandom. ― Ward Fowler, Tuesday, November 19, 2019 10:51 AM (five days ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Ward Fowler, Tuesday, November 19, 2019 10:51 AM (five days ago) bookmarkflaglink
I was pleased to see this post on the author Stan Nichols FB page the other day:
A friend has pointed me to an interview with Alan Moore from ‘Comic Book Artist’ issue 9. Talking about the genesis of Watchmen, Alan says:“I remember at the time - this would’ve been when I was just starting to get involved in British comics fandom - there was a British fanzine that was published over here by a gentleman called Stan Nicholls (who has since gone to write a number of fantasy books). In Stan’s fanzine, Stardock, there was an article called “Propaganda, or Why the Blue Beetle Voted for George Wallace.” (laughter) This was the late-’60s, and British comics fandom had quite a strong hippie element. Despite the fact that Steve Ditko was obviously a hero to the hippies with his psychedelic “Dr. Strange” work and for the teen angst of Spider-Man, Ditko’s politics were obviously very different from those fans. His views were apparent through his portrayals of Mr. A and the protesters or beatniks that occasionally surfaced in his other work. I think this article was the first to actually point out that, yes, Steve Ditko did have a very right-wing agenda (which of course, he’s completely entitled to), but at the time, it was quite interesting, and that probably led to me portraying [Watchmen character] Rorschach as an extremely right-wing character.”The article in question was by the late Michel Parry. I know Michel would have been chuffed, as I am, to have played a small part in inspiring a character in Watchmen.You can read the full text of the CBA interview with Alan here:https://www.twomorrows.com/comicbooka…/articles/09moore.html
“I remember at the time - this would’ve been when I was just starting to get involved in British comics fandom - there was a British fanzine that was published over here by a gentleman called Stan Nicholls (who has since gone to write a number of fantasy books). In Stan’s fanzine, Stardock, there was an article called “Propaganda, or Why the Blue Beetle Voted for George Wallace.” (laughter) This was the late-’60s, and British comics fandom had quite a strong hippie element. Despite the fact that Steve Ditko was obviously a hero to the hippies with his psychedelic “Dr. Strange” work and for the teen angst of Spider-Man, Ditko’s politics were obviously very different from those fans. His views were apparent through his portrayals of Mr. A and the protesters or beatniks that occasionally surfaced in his other work. I think this article was the first to actually point out that, yes, Steve Ditko did have a very right-wing agenda (which of course, he’s completely entitled to), but at the time, it was quite interesting, and that probably led to me portraying [Watchmen character] Rorschach as an extremely right-wing character.”
The article in question was by the late Michel Parry. I know Michel would have been chuffed, as I am, to have played a small part in inspiring a character in Watchmen.You can read the full text of the CBA interview with Alan here:https://www.twomorrows.com/comicbooka…/articles/09moore.html
― Ward Fowler, Sunday, 24 November 2019 08:07 (four years ago) link