US Politics, December 2019: Profound procedural deficiencies

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the weird thing about nadler is that he seems like he's directly out of the watergate hearings. i don't get that same feeling from other people of his age.

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 15:36 (four years ago) link

i know it's to be expected, but there's some really demoralizing about listening to an expert on constitutional law calmly and thoroughly explain why the president must be impeached for about 5 minutes, followed immediately by a parliamentary bullshit stalling question leading to some vote on tabling some motion leading to a request for a roll call leading to a 21-17 vote to confirm that the motion will be tabled

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 15:53 (four years ago) link

yeah i def can't tune into this crap today

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 15:54 (four years ago) link

it is the house committee equivalent of a flamingo thrusting its head deep into the sand in the middle of an animal town meeting about how the flamingo never does the dishes

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 15:54 (four years ago) link

Don’t forget this resistance grifter/congressman sucks

When @POTUS travels outside our country, he represents us to the world. We are all Americans. We should wish him well and want him to succeed. Basic courtesies should be extended to the American President and First Lady. What Princess Anne did was unnecessary and disrespectful. https://t.co/cwOR0hG8iP

— Ted Lieu (@tedlieu) December 4, 2019

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 15:56 (four years ago) link

ewww, wtf ted lieu? i thought he was alright

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 15:57 (four years ago) link

Can you possibly get your tongue any further up there, Ted? Give 'er a go. See what you can do.

Typo Netagive (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 16:01 (four years ago) link

Trump caught on hot mic talking about Trudeau and his scrapping of news conf per pool reporter @betsy_klein - “Oh, and then you know what they'll say. He didn't do a press conference. He didn't do a press conference. That was funny when I said the guy's two-faced, you know that.”

— Jim Acosta (@Acosta) December 4, 2019

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 16:02 (four years ago) link

All particulars about the Choad-in-Chief aside, entreaties to show respect for someone who's done precisely nothing to earn anyone's respect is one of the most efficient means of eliciting a 'STFFU,YFF' from yers truly.

Typo Netagive (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 16:05 (four years ago) link

Ted lieu is very much a centrist democrat whose critique is basically “this is not normal”

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 16:09 (four years ago) link

i.e. MSNBCs m.o.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 16:10 (four years ago) link

I'm not sure what apparent obvious takeaway I'm supposed to understand from that Princess Anne thing I'm continually sick of people trying very hard to squeeze reality show drama out of innocuous moments or facial expressions/body language part #3220965 in a series

Evan, Wednesday, 4 December 2019 16:21 (four years ago) link

All I know is that Trump's head looks like a testicle wearing a wig so I don't begrudge anyone looking askance at his nutsack-faced self

brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 16:30 (four years ago) link

My god if your nutsack looks like Trump-face hie thee to an apothecary posthaste

Typo Netagive (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 16:34 (four years ago) link

Where did I say he looked like MY nutsack? That is an affront to my lovely scrotum

brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 16:38 (four years ago) link

Scrotus

Evan, Wednesday, 4 December 2019 16:44 (four years ago) link

This is the day that they cannot spoil
The birthing day of the princess royal
So let's celebrate the living span
Of our lovely Annie-ann

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Oe37TgK_9k

Appleman Appears: 20/2/2020. Whose Cider You On? (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 16:50 (four years ago) link

Absolutely teary eyed laughing at DJP's last two posts, trying to retain composure at work. Thanks, man.

A breezy pop-rock feel fairly typical of the mid-'80s (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 16:51 (four years ago) link

BREAKING: Ya balls

nashwan, Wednesday, 4 December 2019 16:52 (four years ago) link

I dont think the shrug was meant as an insult to trump.

treeship., Wednesday, 4 December 2019 17:10 (four years ago) link

But even so, Trump built his career on disrespecting people. Respect is an important value to me and I do aim, in my life, to treat everyone with dignity, but fuck him.

treeship., Wednesday, 4 December 2019 17:11 (four years ago) link

Meanwhile the persuasive Jonathan Turley is making a horseshit argument against impeachment. Real forest-for-the-trees nonsense from the guy who said Clinton's blowjob was an impeachable offense.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 17:47 (four years ago) link

It’s extremely cut and dry. All the GOP can do is flail.

treeship., Wednesday, 4 December 2019 18:13 (four years ago) link

I suppose if there is a lesson to be learned by the current scofflaw in chief, and future scofflaws, it's that ignoring subpoenas is not only OK but encouraged. If you're never called to testify under oath, you can never be caught lying under oath. Better to gamble on obstruction than get busted for perjury.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 4 December 2019 18:19 (four years ago) link

All particulars about the Choad-in-Chief aside, entreaties to show respect for someone who's done precisely nothing to earn anyone's respect is one of the most efficient means of eliciting a 'STFFU,YFF' from yers truly.

how is telling your mother that a queue has ended showing disrespect to anyone

insecurity bear (sic), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 18:27 (four years ago) link

Why are the Dems not emphasizing, publicly and often, that much of this mess stems from President Asshole repeatedly targeting private US citizens? If he can target them with impunity, and career officials, and military officers, etc., demean them, and destroy them, over and over again, he can do it to anyone.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 4 December 2019 18:55 (four years ago) link

Because that would be seen as a positive to a lot of these vengeful, stupid, "well it will never happen to ME" fuckers

brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 18:59 (four years ago) link

I believe that's all referred to as "the swamp"

frogbs, Wednesday, 4 December 2019 19:09 (four years ago) link

A swamp in their pants

master of nuggets (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 19:13 (four years ago) link

Never underestimate the mental gymnastic acumen of those who chronically and spitefully vote against their own interests.

the perfect equilibrium of dipability and fun (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 19:22 (four years ago) link

Barely been paying attention today, because why bother, but the GOP's stance is so untenable it's embarrassing.

"This process is a sham, there are all sorts of fact witnesses we need to hear from!"

"What about all the fact witnesses and first-hand accounts Asshole has forbidden from testifying? Shouldn't we hear from them under oath? Like Trump, or Pompeo, or Pence o r Rudy?"

"No, not from them, just the other people, like Biden and Elmo and Nessie."

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 4 December 2019 20:14 (four years ago) link

oh cool here's the new fake outrage we get to hear about for the next week

A minor child deserves privacy and should be kept out of politics. Pamela Karlan, you should be ashamed of your very angry and obviously biased public pandering, and using a child to do it.

— Melania Trump (@FLOTUS) December 4, 2019

this is the cruel & indefensible joke in question

KARLAN: "I will give you one example that shows you the difference between him and a king, which is, the Constitution says there can be no titles of nobility. So while Trump can name his son 'Barron,' he can't make him a baron." pic.twitter.com/FF0E0KyAEh

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) December 4, 2019

frogbs, Wednesday, 4 December 2019 22:23 (four years ago) link

it's not like she insulted a dead soldier's family or anything

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 22:27 (four years ago) link

she insulted him by...calling him by the name his parents gave him? idgi

master of nuggets (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 22:28 (four years ago) link

He's going to be confused and embarrassed by the answer he'll get when he asks his father why he can't make a Barron.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 22:32 (four years ago) link

poor kid still rattled from the time he thought Kathy Griffin beheaded his father

frogbs, Wednesday, 4 December 2019 22:36 (four years ago) link

This is the stupidest, fakest thing

treeship., Wednesday, 4 December 2019 22:36 (four years ago) link

She practically murdered the child with that comment

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 22:38 (four years ago) link

the GOP's already fund raising off that remark.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 22:38 (four years ago) link

The GOP fundraises even when there is nothing to be outraged about. They're just crazy fundraising fools.

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 22:40 (four years ago) link

I intend no criticism. I've sent them a dollar in the shape of a turd.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 22:42 (four years ago) link

I am deeply offended by this neutral public acknowledgement of a child Donald Trump forgot that he fathered. What's next, a reminder of Tiffany's existence?

the perfect equilibrium of dipability and fun (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 22:46 (four years ago) link

Speaking of forgetting of something's existence, I completely forgot the Senate exists. What do those dummies do all day?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 5 December 2019 00:39 (four years ago) link

Confirm incompetent judges

Οὖτις, Thursday, 5 December 2019 00:43 (four years ago) link

it's a full time job

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Thursday, 5 December 2019 00:51 (four years ago) link

OMG SHE FUCKING APOLOGIZED?!?!?!?!

Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 5 December 2019 00:54 (four years ago) link

This really is the dumbest stupidest fucking country.

Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 5 December 2019 01:00 (four years ago) link

...and that's how the GOP wins

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 5 December 2019 01:02 (four years ago) link

OMG SHE FUCKING APOLOGIZED?!?!?!?!

Discretion is the better part of valor. This just takes the hammer that the GOP has been using to beat her with out of their hands. It's not as if she is apologizing for some central idea or any part of the substance of what she said, so there's no reason to dig in and vociferously defend such an irrelevant part of her testimony.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 5 December 2019 01:18 (four years ago) link

yeah, agree

Dan S, Thursday, 5 December 2019 01:19 (four years ago) link


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