She may be good in a peloton ad.
― Yerac, Thursday, 5 December 2019 12:01 (four years ago) link
Even more luxuriousness
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WkFSpgezec
― piscesx, Sunday, 22 December 2019 19:34 (four years ago) link
It doesn't come with poached eggs, creamed spinach, and a shaker of martinis
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 22 December 2019 19:47 (four years ago) link
My wife and I watched this last night on DVD. We noted the irony of it being released by The Weinstein Company with Harvey credited as an Executive Producer.
When it was over we both agreed that the story had tremendous potential power, but at every turn the director chose the easiest, most reductive and superficial path to tell the story of his characters. The acting was meant to be subtle, but often strayed over the boundary into stasis. The costumes shouted 1950s glamour as loudly as possible, but costumes and hairstyles are, at best, enhancements to telling a story, not a substitute for one. Even the music was a bland rehash of every movie music cliché. Tbf, the cinematography was mostly decent.
If the point of all this was to convey a sense of the suffocation of his characters' lives then Haynes misunderstood his means for his end and wound up suffocating their story instead.
― the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Sunday, 6 September 2020 23:39 (three years ago) link
Didn't have that reaction at all. Maybe seeing it in a theater made the difference for me. I thought that the story was beautifully told and that the acting was great. The grainy 16 mm print on a big screen felt electric to me. And I thought Carter Burwell's score was restrained and perfect.
To me Carol is easily one of the best films of the last 10 years
― Dan S, Monday, 7 September 2020 00:05 (three years ago) link
ok, i see I made my crit clear about the Mara sisters already. just no. They deaden all films.
― Yerac, Monday, 7 September 2020 00:55 (three years ago) link
I agree with Aimless here, while I legit consider Haynes a hero this film was so nothing, to me. I often think of a comment that an ILXor, maybe it was Vegemite girl, maybe not, made re: Mad Men that it was so laconic it was like they didn't even realise they were making a TV show that people would invest in - wildly paraphrasing there but the comment stuck with me and I often think about it w/r/t this film which obv. works on details but is underpowered to the point that it drives me mad with it's pointlessness.
― Gerneten-flüken cake (jed_), Monday, 7 September 2020 01:06 (three years ago) link
but this, basically
― Gerneten-flüken cake (jed_), Monday, 7 September 2020 01:08 (three years ago) link
i want to think this could be an entirely different, better film with another lead. or a choice not to let them be an uncharismatic, blank slate, any woman.
― Yerac, Monday, 7 September 2020 01:17 (three years ago) link
there's a kind of surface ≥ feeling which I can get behind generally but not here. There's a scene in which Carol is putting on nail varnish wich Haynes obviously is very invested in.
― Gerneten-flüken cake (jed_), Monday, 7 September 2020 01:30 (three years ago) link
see i like mara in the role for just that reason - the character is an unformed person. A performer who was doing a lot of interesting & charismatic Acting would have undermined the whole premise imo
― turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Monday, 7 September 2020 13:27 (three years ago) link
I thought Mara’s Therese was kind of a cipher at first and I was interested that he interpreted the characters from the novel in the way he did, with such an extreme imbalance between them in both personality and power.
I know relationships like that though, with power and benevolence shifting as the relationship progresses. I thought it was really moving
― Dan S, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 00:10 (three years ago) link
and I thought Rooney Mara was great in the end
― Dan S, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 00:27 (three years ago) link
well, it was the poolboy but instead the shopgirl. And the shopgirl was not interesting either.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 00:55 (three years ago) link
lol
― Dan S, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 00:58 (three years ago) link
yeah i didn't find any part of this film that needed to be predicated on that character being interesting. probably the opposite. i had never really had a good haynes experience but i liked this a lot when i saw it.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 01:09 (three years ago) link
I'm still ambivalent (link above) but the performers are fine.
And y'all need to try creamed spinach and poached eggs with an ice-cold martini.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 01:18 (three years ago) link
ohhh i see there is a velvet goldmine doc.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 01:29 (three years ago) link
"What a strange girl you are. Flung out of space"
― Dan S, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 01:35 (three years ago) link
Are we to think that lesbians are strange and flung out of space?
― the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 02:32 (three years ago) link
i didn't find any part of this film that needed to be predicated on that character being interesting
That is a highly peculiar view. Given this, where did the interest in this film lie for you? In the filmic technicalities or in some element that illuminated the lives of the entirely uninteresting characters? Because, if it is the latter, then it seems to me you found something of interest about the characters. If it is the former, then fine, but a deep appreciation of filmic technicalities is not the sort of audience response that most directors or audiences would consider as indicating a successful film.
― the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 02:53 (three years ago) link
Individuals don’t have to be interesting for their stories to be interesting. Hardly anyone is interesting.
― turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 02:59 (three years ago) link
So what was interesting for you?
― the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 03:00 (three years ago) link
"Are we to think that lesbians are strange and flung out of space?"
What?? It was a memorable line of dialogue from the film
"In the filmic technicalities or in some element that illuminated the lives of the entirely uninteresting characters?"
they weren't uninteresting to me
― Dan S, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 03:10 (three years ago) link
not going to argue anymore about this
― Dan S, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 03:14 (three years ago) link
Observing characters that seem like real humans living their human lives can be interesting, even if those characters themselves as individuals are not “interesting people”, like if you met them at a party or whatever. It’s one of the main reasons to watch movies imo. Ymmv I guess but that character and Mara’s performance felt truthful to me, which can be enough for a movie. Maybe it would be more interesting if she were a secret agent or something but idk.
― turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 03:18 (three years ago) link
reaallllly don't want to talk much more film here but i will say that as far as the movie is concerned it matters much more that carol sees something in her than that we see something in her.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 03:26 (three years ago) link