END TO END BERNERS: The Official Bernie Sanders 2020 Crew thread

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bizarro otm

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 6 December 2019 13:17 (four years ago) link

this is the new rolling skincare thread

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 6 December 2019 13:17 (four years ago) link

it'd be an improvement

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 6 December 2019 13:18 (four years ago) link

i just think it's sad that bernie is pivoting to running on his raw sexual appeal rather than policy, y'know

"Big Joe Fuck and the Bogalusa Maniac" (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 6 December 2019 13:19 (four years ago) link

Just checked the first 538 draft back from 2017, and you know who idiot pundit Nate Silver picks with his first pick? BERNIE FREAKING SANDERS (senator of Vermont). I mean, what a centrist doofus, right?

Frederik B, Friday, 6 December 2019 13:35 (four years ago) link

if we made a "debatable value of data science in political reporting / Nate Silver dogpile / 538 generally" thread could we keep that shit in there

Simon H., Friday, 6 December 2019 13:40 (four years ago) link

smoove b

💠 (crüt), Friday, 6 December 2019 13:42 (four years ago) link

if we made a "debatable value of data science in political reporting / Nate Silver dogpile / 538 generally" thread could we keep that shit in there

― Simon H., 6. december 2019 14:40 (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

We could try, but I doubt it as long as xyzzz is on the board. But it's an important discussion.

Frederik B, Friday, 6 December 2019 13:49 (four years ago) link

Paying my respects to Data Science rn

xyzzzz__, Friday, 6 December 2019 13:53 (four years ago) link

Fred, can you read the thread title? Do you understand it?

Do you wonder at all why other posters are in here offering criticism of Bernie but you seem to be the one getting the blowback? It's because you are here to provoke.

The thing is, there's a thread for the primary. How about staying out of here and using that one instead.

Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 6 December 2019 13:58 (four years ago) link

marxists are into hardcore history?

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2018/07/10/soto-j10.html

No language just sound (Sund4r), Friday, 6 December 2019 14:03 (four years ago) link

i mean i could dig back through a few hundred silver tweets and all their awful slack chat "snake draft" posts and everything else but i already feel embarrassed enough about reading those the first time. i stand by my conviction that silver is a lousy, centrist pundit but I recognize that this is not a post that will persuade anybody to co-sign that opinion.

Doctor Casino, Friday, 6 December 2019 14:33 (four years ago) link

U.S. Democratic contender Sanders proposes $150 billion for 'high-speed internet for all' https://t.co/TUHiq52Kyb pic.twitter.com/EwChE7R5Cp

— Reuters (@Reuters) December 6, 2019

Stealing policy from Labour 😂🤣

xyzzzz__, Friday, 6 December 2019 15:39 (four years ago) link

🔥🔥🔥@KillerMike on MSNBC:

"We need an alternative to the two choices we’ve been given. @BernieSanders is not starting the revolution—he’s continuing the revolution. It’s the same revolution that Dr. King fought, that the SCLC fought, that Eugene Debs and Lucy Parsons fought.” pic.twitter.com/EuNVv0xzdP

— Eric Blanc (@_ericblanc) December 9, 2019

xyzzzz__, Monday, 9 December 2019 09:29 (four years ago) link

chefkiss.jpg

Bernie Sanders' associations paint a pattern of proximity to antisemitism, which raises the question: Is it that he really doesn’t notice, that he’s willing to tolerate it, or that he somehow also supports it?https://t.co/yinzXFICmH

— The Federalist (@FDRLST) December 10, 2019

a synthesis of Trotskyism and Ufology (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 16:09 (four years ago) link

This all sounds familiar to me

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 16:11 (four years ago) link

been looking forward to it

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 16:15 (four years ago) link

I've been wondering whether they were going to try and import that idiocy to the US.

OneSecondBefore, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 18:21 (four years ago) link

Very good op-ed by Keeanga-Yamahtta Taylor:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/10/opinion/bernie-sanders-multiracial-workers.html

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 18:25 (four years ago) link

So this "proximity to anti-Semitism" means what exactly? And this proximity is discovered among Bernie's "associations"? And we are supposed to question why he "tolerates" this? Can criticism become any more attenuated than this?

Meanwhile, we currently have POTUS who eats kittens. Not literally, of course. He's more into taco bowls and KFC. But I think we all know what I meant.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 18:44 (four years ago) link

We've seen this script before, but just want to point out that akm did complain about Sarsour being a surrogate back in September, and the main reaction on here was, and I paraphrase, 'nobody knows who she is'.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 19:03 (four years ago) link

still accurate AFAIK

Simon H., Tuesday, 10 December 2019 19:04 (four years ago) link

So far.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 19:04 (four years ago) link

Sarsour adopting white supremacist rhetoric and blatantly lying about Israel — the realized, radical notion that Jews deserve a homeland like every other people

Stopped reading after this made my head hurt.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 19:15 (four years ago) link

a homeland like every other people

The Kurds would like a word with you.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 19:21 (four years ago) link

Another very interesting polling result at that link is the one showing the second choice of the supporters of each candidate. I was particularly fascinated by the second choices of Biden's voters. Also, it seems like Klobuchar, who is polling 10%, just behind Warren's 12%, is almost nobody's second choice.

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 03:34 (four years ago) link

Warren only 2 points ahead of Klobuchar, Christ that's sad. I should stop caring now shouldn't I. I would love for Bernie to get the nom but as for how that affects his personal prospects frankly we might as well just pillory him. But at least if you consider the Bernie/Warren support as a solid bloc then it still looks decent.

viborg, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 03:42 (four years ago) link

Another very interesting polling result at that link is the one showing the second choice of the supporters of each candidate.

Good to see Warren and Sanders supporters having each other's backs.

No language just sound (Sund4r), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 03:51 (four years ago) link

I've definitely started to ponder if Warren is dropping low enough that I may have to vote for Bernie instead. Not thrilled with this turn of events.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 04:00 (four years ago) link

do it, do it, do it

peloton for the painfully alone (m bison), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 04:02 (four years ago) link

We'll see. I guess what I'll say is that a scenario where either Warren or Sanders is far behind is maybe preferable to one where they're at parity and seriously cannibalizing each other's votes.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 04:07 (four years ago) link

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/10/opinion/bernie-sanders-multiracial-workers.html?auth=login-facebook&login=facebook#commentsContainer

Mr. Sanders is the favorite candidate among black women aged 18 to 34. Only 49 percent of his supporters are white, compared with 71 percent of Warren supporters. Perhaps most surprising, more women under 45 support him than men under 45.

treeship., Wednesday, 11 December 2019 04:08 (four years ago) link

the white chauvinist berniebro is a myth. i support him because he discusses the working class as it is -- multiracial and encompassing all genders; overwhelmingly comprised of service and care workers,

treeship., Wednesday, 11 December 2019 04:10 (four years ago) link

I have until mid-May before I have to make a final choice. I'm pretty sure there will be a viable candidate remaining who I can stomach. My state makes so little difference to the outcome that it is never a nail-biter to decide how to vote anyway.

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 04:12 (four years ago) link

lmao

PLUNGING INTO FIRST PLACE pic.twitter.com/GVdjakieHn

— flowers for agamemnon (@kraccdown) December 9, 2019

a synthesis of Trotskyism and Ufology (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 07:20 (four years ago) link

ok LOL

flopson, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 07:28 (four years ago) link

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insecurity bear (sic), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 09:22 (four years ago) link

lmao

PLUNGING INTO FIRST PLACE pic.twitter.com/GVdjakieHn
— flowers for agamemnon (@kraccdown) December 9, 2019
― a synthesis of Trotskyism and Ufology (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, December 11, 2019 2:20 AM (seven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

I generally tend to think the whole "mainstream media's out to get Bernie" line is overcooked but that is pretty goddamn ridiculous. then again, the Times did just run an op-ed extolling Bernie's virtues a couple of days ago, right?

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 14:57 (four years ago) link

tbf, it's not a real headline

yet

Receive Your Simulated Fluids Before The End of The Year! (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 14:58 (four years ago) link

the white chauvinist berniebro is a myth. i support him because he discusses the working class as it is -- multiracial and encompassing all genders; overwhelmingly comprised of service and care workers,

― treeship., Tuesday, December 10, 2019 11:10 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

it is, but I also think the "POC love Bernie" line remains a myth until it translates into actual votes. ofc I'm talking about the entire generational spectrum here, I fully recognize that young Dems of all races are firmly pro-Sanders.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 15:00 (four years ago) link

tbf, it's not a real headline

yet

― Receive Your Simulated Fluids Before The End of The Year! (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, December 11, 2019 9:58 AM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

ah, I didn't read the replies. so I guess I'll file this one away under "Persecution Complex" then.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 15:01 (four years ago) link

even the Pod Save boys are feeling the Bern

Bernie Sanders' chances of winning the nomination are being underestimated and under-discussed. He might be the candidate with the best chance to sweep IA, NH, NV before we ever get to South Carolina. https://t.co/pDuwwWuS2W

— Dan Pfeiffer (@danpfeiffer) December 10, 2019

Simon H., Wednesday, 11 December 2019 15:07 (four years ago) link

ah, I didn't read the replies. so I guess I'll file this one away under "Persecution Complex" then.

― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Wednesday, December 11, 2019 10:01 AM (thirteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

it was a joke, dad

k3vin k., Wednesday, 11 December 2019 15:15 (four years ago) link

yes, i'm aware. but getting the joke relies on acknowledging its proximity to reality.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 15:18 (four years ago) link

even nate was tweeting about how sanders could win the nomination so i guess he's not an idiot anymore whew!

Mordy, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 15:20 (four years ago) link

if only his campaign was "going well" :-/

Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 15:27 (four years ago) link

If Sanders loses, the fight continues. If Sanders wins, we celebrate for one blissful evening and then the fight dramatically escalates, which is both terrifying and the whole point

— Meagan Day (@meaganmday) December 9, 2019

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 18:13 (four years ago) link


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