woody allen

The only mildly amusing Allen movie in the last twenty years is Irrational Man, only because it's weird watching Joaquin Phoenix adjust his quirks to Woody.

like are any of them not about he, Woody Allen, fucking a much younger woman?

srs question: are these joke questions

here's the woody allen movies I'm aware of:

whatsit, the one named for the girl, Annie Hall: the plot is Woody Allen gets dumped
Manhattan: I assume it's set in Manhattan
Blue Jasmine: only aware of this because of a Comedy Bang Bang gag
Everything you wanted to know about sex: I don't want to know about sex

shakey I never joke

uh ok

I like Vicky Cristina Barcelona but mostly because of Penelope Cruz. Most W. Allen films consist of conversations that I would slowly walk away from in real life.

like are any of them not about he, Woody Allen, fucking a much younger woman?

Broken down his filmography through 2002 with a yes/no question (yes indicating that it involves said fucking):

What's New Pussycat? - No
What's Up, Tiger Lily? - No
Take the Money and Run - No
Bananas - No
Play It Again, Sam - No
Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Sex* (*But Were Afraid to Ask) - No
Sleeper - No
Love and Death - No
The Front - No
Annie Hall - No
Interiors - No
Manhattan - YES
Stardust Memories - No
A Midsummer Night's Sex Comedy - No
Zelig - No
Broadway Danny Rose - No
The Purple Rose of Cairo - No
Hannah and Her Sisters - No
Radio Days - No
September - No
Another Woman - No
Crimes and Misdemeanors - No
Alice - No
Shadows and Fog - No
Husbands and Wives - YES
Manhattan Murder Mystery - No
Bullets Over Broadway - No
Mighty Aphrodite - YES
Everyone Says I Love You - No
Deconstructing Harry - sort of
Celebrity - No
Sweet and Lowdown - No
Smalltime Crooks - No
The Curse of the Jade Scorpion - YES

a bunch of those are good-to-great. Annie Hall in particular is a comedy milestone/landmark film imo.

like are any of them not about he, Woody Allen, fucking a much younger woman?

some of them are about him fucking a woman his own age. one of them is about Javier Bardem fucking two women, one of whom is five years younger than him* and one that is fifteen years younger than him. one is about Jason Biggs fucking someone his own age, but it is much worse than any of the American Pie movies.

* (that he has repeatedly fucked onscreen for 26 years and counting, as of Everybody Knows)

dang xpost

this has a chart of the age gaps between pairings in his films. https://www.mic.com/articles/185578/heres-a-chart-showing-the-age-gaps-between-romantic-partners-in-woody-allens-movies

I wonder if silby would like Annie Hall.

I wonder a lot of things

lol I looked up the Biggs one and forgot it's about him cheating on his girlfriend with a slightly younger woman and seeking advice from Woody Allen on what to do about it

I think you wouldn't. But if you ever get mono maybe you could give it a shot. It's fine. xpost

I'm not exactly seeking out movies about het romances these days

my lesbian boomer pals and i get into arguments about it because they love it and I am like ... it's ok.

the main thing it has going for it is that NYC isn't overcrowded in it.

I bet a silby could enjoy several of the good-to-great Woodys, including Annie Hall, if able to set aside "imo Woody is a sex creep" preconceptions. But there are plenty of other movies to watch.

xpost again, I went off and read the Mic chart

tbf Woody films are rarely if ever about romances, his characters are usually aggravated or anguished by luv, and more likely to fuck "other people" to hurt their nominal partners than bcz they're horny

Javier Bardem fucking two women

dangit misremembered this one too: he is divorced from the woman five years younger, and fucks two women fifteen years and thirteen years younger than him

tbf Woody films are rarely if ever about romances, his characters are usually aggravated or anguished by luv, and more likely to fuck "other people" to hurt their nominal partners than bcz they're horny

this is accurate

even Annie Hall... I mean, saying it's about him "getting dumped" is not quite right, it's more about how anxiety conspires against happiness

Mostly just released to long-haul flight entertainment systems I think

I saw on another forum that the new one, A Rainy Day In New York, is available on some airline filghts heading into the states.

Just read about this, a short Kissinger satire made for but not aired by PBS in '71.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyuCjDiqX58

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well known to those steeped in his career

are any of them good

Zelig is a wiseass NYer's version of Forrest Gump (but made 11 years earlier)

it's probably my favorite after Annie Hall, Sleeper, Manhhattan, maybe even ahead of a couple of those

"I've never flown before in my life, and it shows exactly what you can do if you're a total psychotic!"

Hmm I’m being a wiseass about Woody Allen mostly for my own amusement and bc I was understimulated at work today, but Forrest Gump, I passionately loathe Forrest Gump

it's not *like* Forrest Gump substantively

also Susan Sontag and Saul Bellow, among others, weigh in on the hero (a "chameleon man" who conforms to his surroundings)

I've never seen Gump and have no plans to; it might as well be a Tarantino film

I’ll probably get around to reading Sontag before I get around to watching Woody Allen, at any rate.

There’s not really a good Forrest Gump thread for me to bump to talk shit about it in

you'll live

also your namesake, Gene Wilder, is great in Everything About Sex

Love & Death is good

it is! like a good prime Bob Hope burlesque, only with Dostoyevsky and Eisenstein references

it's not *like* Forrest Gump substantively

also Susan Sontag and Saul Bellow, among others, weigh in on the hero (a "chameleon man" who conforms to his surroundings)

also what was the name of the theater on the East Side where we would cue up when these things debuted, maybe the same one where Donald Fagen saw Lou Reed crying at a midday show of “Terms of Endearment,” The Beacon? No, The Beekman. Guess it closed for good recently although the original theater had already closed in 2005.

https://patch.com/new-york/upper-east-side-nyc/beekman-theatre-closes-unexpectedly-upper-east-side

I watched The Philadelphia Story the other night and got weirded out by the central theme of Katherine Hepburn needing to learn how to put up with men's bullshit so I can understand not wanting to go near Annie Hall because of WA's age-inappropriate casting.

is te casting of annie Hall age-inappropriate?

Milder version of silby's question: I have seen all of Woody Allen's films through Anything Else. I have seen zero of Woody Allen's films after Anything Else. So like...am I good or is there anything I'm missing out on?

Oh you know what, my bad, I forgot that Melinda & Melinda came out after that, so that would've been my last one. I mean I guess shakey's revive kinda answers my question but still.

I watched The Philadelphia Story the other night and got weirded out by the central theme of Katherine Hepburn needing to learn how to put up with men's bullshit so I can understand not wanting to go near Annie Hall because of WA's age-inappropriate casting.

― closed beta (NotEnough), Thursday, December 12, 2019

otm about The Philadelphia Story, which I like but its insistence on humiliating Tracy Lord/Hepburn grates on me (and it weirded out critics at the time, I might add).

I didn't see the age difference in AH as a problem. If anything, she learns enough from him to leave his whining ass at the end of the film.m

it's been a while since i saw manhattan but i always imagine that final scene is the last time hemingway's character ever sees allen's

I'm thinking less of the age difference in AH (which doesn't seem egregious to me) and more the general vibe of casting men against younger love interests, which is obviously a bigger problem. AH definitely paints the WA character as a solipsistic asshole loser that'll never learn and that Keaton is right to dump his ass.

was trying to think of instances where his scripts called for casing older women with younger men - Bullets Over Broadway def the most memorable, but I think there's a couple others I'm forgetting

So like...am I good or is there anything I'm missing out on?

I've seen three of the 17 he's made since then*, and enjoyed one of them a lot, but your life will not be especially enriched by it.


* counting one he only acted in here, because: dermatologist Sharon Stone has never been able to arrange a girl / girl / boy threesome with her also-curious female friend, so she naturally asks her 78-year-old patient Woody Allen if he can hook her up. Woody turns to the most attractive and virile man he knows, 56-year-old John Turturro, and soon is operating a thriving business as a pimp with Turturro his sole ho. feel free to guess who wrote and directed this movie at any point.

Bill Cosby!

Jeffrey Epstein before he didn't kill himself?

Possibly the man who thought that a movie featuring his Big Lebowski character as the protagonist was actually a sound and reasonable idea?