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if your explanation doesn't actually explain anything, better to just leave it totally ambiguous and leave the audience wondering imo

Οὖτις, Thursday, 12 December 2019 21:46 (four years ago) link

does red know that adelaide knows it

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 12 December 2019 21:48 (four years ago) link

my read has always been that they were young when it happened and their environments changed so drastically and permanently that they legit forgot the switch happened, idk

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 12 December 2019 21:48 (four years ago) link

they stayed alive by eating the rabbits obviously but i don't particularly care that the exposition is stupid

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 12 December 2019 21:49 (four years ago) link

also adelaide was a kid when she transitioned into the outer world, she wouldn't necessarily know anything about the whole project

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 12 December 2019 21:50 (four years ago) link

they both know they switched places that night. The tether who escaped sure as hell didn't know anything beyond that, she never visited the person she swapped with.

The tether has no idea what the real Nyong'o was doing below the surface all of those years, or how she organized the tethers to kill their surface overlords.

― master of nuggets (Neanderthal), Thursday, December 12, 2019 2:36 PM (sixteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

or, you know, this post, which nothing you've said contradicts shakey

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 12 December 2019 21:53 (four years ago) link

yeah, it very much read like the tether had remembered events to where she was the victim. after killing the people in the friends house, she starts making primitive, animalistic noises after the act was done, same when she fights Red at the end. her son hears some of it and is actually scared of her in the van, it appears. sounds like she regressed enough that she remembered at the end of the movie that she was the one who swapped places.

master of nuggets (Neanderthal), Thursday, 12 December 2019 21:54 (four years ago) link

and obv I know Hollywood always treats repressed memories in a very unrealistic way but who cares.

master of nuggets (Neanderthal), Thursday, 12 December 2019 21:54 (four years ago) link

"why would the devil spin the little girl's head in The Exorcist, surely the girl would be dead as soon as the devil left her body, the same laws of biology apply!"

master of nuggets (Neanderthal), Thursday, 12 December 2019 21:55 (four years ago) link

they legit forgot the switch happened

they both felt some kind of mystical connection during the dance, which is explicitly stated and is decades earlier than the main events in the film

Οὖτις, Thursday, 12 December 2019 21:56 (four years ago) link

one more time

Years after we met, the miracle happened. That’s when I saw God, and he showed me my path. You felt it too.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 12 December 2019 21:57 (four years ago) link

I mean *they share a fucking soul* how much more connected could they be

Οὖτις, Thursday, 12 December 2019 21:58 (four years ago) link

yes they felt some kind of mystical connection during the dance but does that mean they automatically know the entire context of the government project

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 12 December 2019 22:01 (four years ago) link

or at least, that doesn't mean that adelaide does!

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 12 December 2019 22:01 (four years ago) link

so yeah i'm finding more reasons for the exposition dump to exist

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 12 December 2019 22:02 (four years ago) link

the entire context of the government project

government is not referenced

Οὖτις, Thursday, 12 December 2019 22:06 (four years ago) link

idk why I'm bothering tbh

Οὖτις, Thursday, 12 December 2019 22:06 (four years ago) link

i don't know why you're bothering either

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 12 December 2019 22:15 (four years ago) link

or why it matters that the government isn't referenced

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 12 December 2019 22:15 (four years ago) link

as a specific point it doesn't matter, but I'm suspicious of any reading that isn't firmly rooted in actual details of what's on-screen.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 12 December 2019 22:22 (four years ago) link

they stayed alive by eating the rabbits obviously but i don't particularly care that the exposition is stupid

The fun thing about this detail is that if you eat a diet solely composed of rabbit you will starve to death

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protein_poisoning

so they couldn't have picked a worse food source for their nonsensical plan!

Number None, Friday, 20 December 2019 14:15 (four years ago) link

thanks for that one cinema sins

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 20 December 2019 14:44 (four years ago) link

and a merry christmas to you too

Number None, Friday, 20 December 2019 15:08 (four years ago) link

I loved the first 45 mins, and then spent the rest of the time alternately amused and exasperated. The middle part is definitely the weakest, as it basically becomes a home invasion thriller with this one kooky hook. The final reveal worked ok for me even if it doesn't entirely play fair with the lead character's childhood trauma.

Maria Edgelord (cryptosicko), Monday, 23 December 2019 19:12 (four years ago) link

it's a good home invasion thriller! also iirc the part where Peele gets to work more humour than elsewhere into the movie?

insecurity bear (sic), Monday, 23 December 2019 20:17 (four years ago) link

I loved this movie a lot and my takeaway from this thread is that I would thoroughly hate watching a movie with most of you

totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Monday, 6 January 2020 19:43 (four years ago) link

I also have some incredibly unkind thoughts on subconscious bias as expressed in some of the complaints about this movie but they are possibly more about my interpretation of the complaints than the actual complaints themselves.

totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Monday, 6 January 2020 19:44 (four years ago) link

(Primary being "the dialog was stilted" = "black people don't talk like that")

totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Monday, 6 January 2020 19:45 (four years ago) link

(I guess I do feel like going there)

totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Monday, 6 January 2020 19:45 (four years ago) link

thread revive got me all mixed up in light of other recent events. Jordan Peele threatening pre-emptive Iran strike, do I have that right?

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Monday, 6 January 2020 20:06 (four years ago) link

say what now?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 6 January 2020 21:23 (four years ago) link

this is the us politics thread not the us politics thread

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 6 January 2020 21:34 (four years ago) link

there's a broader melange of on-the-nose allusions: people wearing prison-style jumpsuits, chained and tethered and joined to each other, an underclass marked by this clothing and colour rising up


Yeah otm, I was reading all the posts and the MAGA thing was...not my understanding of it at all.

So many Thriller references - besides the shirt and the ending, the single gloves the Tethered wear, and maybe even the dance scene where one mirrors the other (ok that one’s a stretch).

Why leave the Tethered underground? What are they going to do, kill them off at once? That’s a lot of rotting flesh to dispose of safely.

I did see the ending coming, probably because I’ve seen a million doppelgänger/clone things and it’s a fairly common trope. Which isn’t to say I minded!

But yeah, thought this was pretty good.

glindr jackson (gyac), Saturday, 11 January 2020 18:01 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

Probably should start a new thread but

☁️ pic.twitter.com/iiDRwVLmbr

— Jordan Peele (@JordanPeele) July 22, 2021

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 July 2021 15:07 (two years ago) link

And I just posted this in the "No" thread.

MarkoP, Thursday, 22 July 2021 15:13 (two years ago) link

Hoping for a "Oh Hell No" director's cut.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Thursday, 22 July 2021 20:29 (two years ago) link

ten months pass...

Separate thread, my friend

Nope (dir. Jordan Peele)

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 9 June 2022 23:19 (one year ago) link


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