Worst ongoing plotline in the second season of Twin Peaks (SPOILERS)

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That's what I've heard! And I love the show so much right up until the Leland reveal, I'm willing to overlook almost anything, but man, this season is worse than I remembered. But since I do plan to spend the post-holiday pajamas-and-cocoa dead zone finally watching Season 3, I've been making it a point to re-watch Season 2 (and FWWM)

Paul Ponzi, Saturday, 14 December 2019 16:19 (four years ago) link

While I like lots of the second-half-of-S2 stuff (James’ Wild Ride excluded) and love the Diane Keaton episode, as far as preparing for S3 goes you can just skip to the finale and FWWM.

insecurity bear (sic), Saturday, 14 December 2019 19:51 (four years ago) link

and The Missing Pieces of FWWM I would say

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Saturday, 14 December 2019 20:41 (four years ago) link

While I like lots of the second-half-of-S2 stuff (James’ Wild Ride excluded) and love the Diane Keaton episode, as far as preparing for S3 goes you can just skip to the finale and FWWM.

― insecurity bear (sic), Saturday, December 14, 2019 2:51 PM (fifty-eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

my ocd tendencies would never permit this. What's The Missing Pieces?

Paul Ponzi, Saturday, 14 December 2019 20:50 (four years ago) link

The parts of the FWWM screenplay that were filmed but cut from the released film; Lynch edited a sort-of-feature out of them for a DVD bonus feature.

There's also a fan edit that cuts 99% of them back into original screenplay order, which I watched on my pre-season-3 rescreen.

insecurity bear (sic), Saturday, 14 December 2019 20:59 (four years ago) link

I’ve always told people “there’s an episode that ends with an owl flying toward the camera. Stop. Skip to the season finale.”

That said, I remember the three-episode arc with David Duchovny very fondly?!

that said, I’d prefer a single serving of you (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 14 December 2019 21:25 (four years ago) link

paul I agree that the back half of season 2 has a lot of letdowns, but season 3 might be the best season of TV I’ve ever seen. it is not to be missed

k3vin k., Saturday, 14 December 2019 21:30 (four years ago) link

I liked Denise a lot, and I remember her as redeeming the episodes she was in, though that may just be wishful thinking. My vote for worst plotline would be Cooper falling in love with Annie, just because cringe-inducing terrible dialogue is harder to suffer through when it's Coop delivering it.

Lily Dale, Saturday, 14 December 2019 21:47 (four years ago) link

That said, I remember the three-episode arc with David Duchovny very fondly?!

Also touched on wonderfully in S3.

insecurity bear (sic), Saturday, 14 December 2019 21:50 (four years ago) link

four years pass...

i’m in the middle of another rewatch and every time I get to this part my skeleton leaves my body and I disassociate

james is The Worst

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEn-mmFiYDs-

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 18 April 2024 06:22 (yesterday) link

and OMG i want to kick Harold and his 2-cent Norman Bates impression into the fucking sun

him and james, into the sea immediately

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 18 April 2024 06:25 (yesterday) link

crooner James - not terrible
James & Evelyn - absolute complete dogshit (as evidenced by OP results)

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 18 April 2024 06:38 (yesterday) link

James is cool

Also that scene is one of the best bits of the entire run

subpost master (wins), Thursday, 18 April 2024 07:21 (yesterday) link

insanity

i hate it so much

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 18 April 2024 07:37 (yesterday) link

James has ALWAYS been cool!

H.P, Thursday, 18 April 2024 09:03 (yesterday) link

James is canonically a dipshit, it’s good

I’ve never understood reaction to that scene, at least if you’ve bought into the whole vibe of the show up to that point it surely makes perfect sense that there is this performance going on in the palmer living room, with the heightened artificiality of the vocal effects & the musical backing that cannot possibly be diegetic (but maybe is?? There’s always music in the air) & also it’s v funny because it’s dipshit James doing his teenybop scotty Ferguson bit toward his dead gf’s doppelgänger while his current gf is also in the room because they are both singing backing vocals on a song called “just you” lol — and then Donna & James rush out of the room and BOB comes in, not appearing out of thin air as previously but literally walking in from the other room, and crawls over the couch directly at the camera?

Start to finish that has to be top 10 most quintessential lynch scenes ever, not just TP

subpost master (wins), Thursday, 18 April 2024 13:21 (yesterday) link

"just you and i" is amazing!!!!

ivy., Thursday, 18 April 2024 13:22 (yesterday) link

The deliberately ridiculous singing alone is a joy

subpost master (wins), Thursday, 18 April 2024 13:23 (yesterday) link

tension between donna and maddie is unbelievable in that scene

ivy., Thursday, 18 April 2024 13:24 (yesterday) link

everything in season 2 is good

ciderpress, Thursday, 18 April 2024 13:27 (yesterday) link

love 'just you and i,' it's perfect. there's something in it that is emphasized a lot more in the return, individuals being fated by their archetypes, the doppelganger who is caught in larger patterns, a magnetic pull towards your place in the cosmos regardless of how you stuggle against it in an effort to "fix" things. it adds such tragedy to donna's jealousy, she sees her position slipping out of her grasp because she isn't the girl and james is the guy, doesn't matter that he's a doofus, he has the motorcycle and the guitar

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Thursday, 18 April 2024 14:30 (yesterday) link

otm, great post

H.P, Thursday, 18 April 2024 14:47 (yesterday) link

I'm with VG on this sorry

There were six to ten S2 episodes where I was wimpy punching the couch wishing it was over

I Love Potatoes (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 18 April 2024 15:03 (yesterday) link

Speaking of cringey dudes, if a poll-thread is made for Worst character/plotline in the third season of Twin Peaks (SPOILERS):

Wally Brando/Michael Cera would definitely be up there.

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 18 April 2024 15:09 (yesterday) link

:/ agreed, awful moment in an otherwise perfect season

I Love Potatoes (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 18 April 2024 15:11 (yesterday) link

In retrospect, since the show was set in the Pacific Northwest in 1989, James should really have been a grunge balladeer instead of a Paul Anka throwback.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 18 April 2024 15:14 (yesterday) link

the wally brando scene is so fucking funny

ivy., Thursday, 18 April 2024 15:15 (yesterday) link

The whole point is that TP is out of time

Widow Milford subplot deserved some votes

JoeStork, Thursday, 18 April 2024 15:21 (yesterday) link

I would've voted for (the first half of) "Ben Horne becomes obsessed with the Civil War, and tries to turn over a new leaf," which last time I rewatched was pointless, irritating, and, as silly as it is, pretty dodgy in a Lost Cause way

rob, Thursday, 18 April 2024 15:34 (yesterday) link

great post karlakrlarkal

ppl horrendously not otm about wally brando

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Thursday, 18 April 2024 15:39 (yesterday) link

The whole point is that TP is out of time

...or that Lynch switched off his cultural perceptions around 1962.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 18 April 2024 15:49 (yesterday) link

The Nine Inch Nails

the point of James was that he was a wet noodle
i can understand and appreciate his character’s purpose while ALSO finding him to be a wet noodle
and that doesn’t include nor will it ever include wanting to hear him sing me the song of his people ie that he is a wet noodle

if i am to tolerate James then the least he could do is NOT. SING.

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 18 April 2024 17:57 (yesterday) link

the wally brando scene, especially in the context of those first few episodes of the return when everyone was still trying to get a handle on it, was and remains incredible

devvvine, Thursday, 18 April 2024 18:44 (yesterday) link

some of the freddie sykes stuff on the other hand…

devvvine, Thursday, 18 April 2024 18:46 (yesterday) link

I love all of that

Maybe more for the other thread but I just got to the Brando ep in my rewatch the other night, I think I like it even more than I did the first time

subpost master (wins), Thursday, 18 April 2024 19:03 (yesterday) link

Speaking of cringey dudes [...] Wally Brando/Michael Cera would definitely be up there.

... wasn't that the entire point of that scene? Robert Forster can barely keep a straight face.

Vast Halo, Thursday, 18 April 2024 19:08 (yesterday) link


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