Previously critically acclaimed and/or successful acts who are already being written out of attempts at '10s canon-building

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Can we skip ahead to an AFX ILM ballot poll in 2020 or do we have to wait until 2022 at our current pace?

octobeard, Thursday, 19 December 2019 01:45 (four years ago) link

Cheetah is very beautiful sounding also.

kraudive, Monday, 23 December 2019 21:15 (four years ago) link

Interesting thread, honestly. I’ve been less struck by “vanishing canon” and more caught up in a new “emo extremely matters” movement of the past five years, bands I skipped in the 2000s revealing themselves to be hugely popular/influential.

In terms of “vanishing canon” I’m still sore that Max Tundra/Blechdoms/Kid 606 (all 2000s, not 2010s) seemed to be erased from having any modern day resonance but nerds lose the game in the end I guess; still listen regularly to those records

kelis navidad (flamboyant goon tie included), Monday, 23 December 2019 22:17 (four years ago) link

I always assumed no one took Kid606 seriously even back in the day, but I guess that was mostly because of the ridiculous record and track titles.

Tuomas, Monday, 23 December 2019 22:23 (four years ago) link

I also think the emo thing is interesting bc it’s a scene I know nothing about. Though I just learned a couple days ago about the FACGCE tuning which I think is very cool & might be a window for me to explore that more

oncle rasélonguebite (crüt), Monday, 23 December 2019 22:37 (four years ago) link

Kid606’s we love you mark bell thing from a few years back was pretty good, chill detroit-y, electro-y stuff

brimstead, Monday, 23 December 2019 22:39 (four years ago) link

I still rather enjoy role model by Cex

brimstead, Monday, 23 December 2019 22:40 (four years ago) link

In terms of “vanishing canon” I’m still sore that Max Tundra/Blechdoms/Kid 606 (all 2000s, not 2010s) seemed to be erased from having any modern day resonance but nerds lose the game in the end I guess; still listen regularly to those records

― kelis navidad (flamboyant goon tie included)

max tundra was really involved in last year's daphne and celeste record, and that one was great!

Agnes Motörhead (rushomancy), Tuesday, 24 December 2019 01:58 (four years ago) link

a decade ago in the middle of mp3 blogs & meticulous jaxon-style ilx threads i thought, like, everything wd be corrected by the passage of time, all these souljazz reissues & obscurities being uncovered ... now it feels like the opposite is happening, just completely awash in content

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 24 December 2019 03:52 (four years ago) link

what was the name of that band that ripped off led zep that everyone was talking about like a year or two ago

oncle rasélonguebite (crüt), Tuesday, 24 December 2019 06:56 (four years ago) link

Greta van fleet?

Judi Dench's Human Hand (methanietanner), Tuesday, 24 December 2019 08:11 (four years ago) link

At the end of 2009 it looked like Girls was poised to be the next Big Indie Rock Thing, and judging by these decade lists that definitely didn't happen. I still rate Album very highly

Paul Ponzi, Monday, 30 December 2019 23:00 (four years ago) link

well they broke up after their second album which was maybe even more acclaimed than the first and then the main guy went on to make some kinda strange solo albums

ufo, Monday, 30 December 2019 23:12 (four years ago) link

How is War on Drugs' stock these days?

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 30 December 2019 23:18 (four years ago) link

boring

YOU CALL THIS JOURNALSIM? (dog latin), Monday, 30 December 2019 23:40 (four years ago) link

i’m so glad girls didn’t happen, one of the worst bands in recent memory. their second album is on the pfork decade list regardless though

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 30 December 2019 23:44 (four years ago) link

Greta van fleet?

Are about to open for Metallica.

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Monday, 30 December 2019 23:50 (four years ago) link

Damn surprised you hate Girls so much Brad. I kinda liked the first album, like Elvis Costello as performed by Jesse camp

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 00:37 (four years ago) link

Not sure which canon Greta Van Fleet is being written out of. One that includes Daughtry maybe

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 00:45 (four years ago) link

like Elvis Costello as performed by Jesse camp

ouch

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 31 December 2019 02:16 (four years ago) link

At the end of 2009 it looked like Girls was poised to be the next Big Indie Rock Thing, and judging by these decade lists that definitely didn't happen. I still rate Album very highly

― Paul Ponzi

i thought they went on to form viet cong but it turns out i was thinking of women

i hate band names like those, transition or gtfo

revenge of the jawn (rushomancy), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 03:58 (four years ago) link

possibly one to chalk up to sexism but I don't get a sense that st vincent or neko case or bjork are getting any end of decade attention. but maybe i just read the wrong stuff.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 05:18 (four years ago) link

Can't speak for the other two artists, but the 2010s were not Neko's decade.

the beer of champagnes (morrisp), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 05:28 (four years ago) link

you're making my point! she released two solo albums, four with New Pornographers and one with kd lang and laura veirs!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 05:45 (four years ago) link

Maybe I'm missing your point; but neither of the solo albums is that great (IMO), and the Case/Lang/Veirs album is good but not super notable? I'm a fan, but the 2000s were her big decade.

the beer of champagnes (morrisp), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 06:09 (four years ago) link

I think St Vincent definitely will get some end of decade recognition

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 06:50 (four years ago) link

well she's got 1 day left

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 December 2019 07:48 (four years ago) link

Benji getting wiped is one.

Why is tUnE-yArDs getting blanked?

Who's building the canon?

in twelve parts (lamonti), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 08:22 (four years ago) link

This "I'm boiling down a decade into a mere ten albums" thing I've seen people doing lately is ... something. For casual music listeners, I can see it; for the more serious or pros, this must be an excruciating exercise.

Lactose Shaolin Wanker (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 14:30 (four years ago) link

(Though I guess if you're doing the "one LP for each year" maybe it's not so tortuous.)

Lactose Shaolin Wanker (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 14:34 (four years ago) link

Agree that Neko’s best output was the 00s. Blacklisted, Fox Confessor, Middle Cyclone + four classic New Pornographers albums.

Her 10s solo stuff is good but each album has bits that are just ok. I still believe she has more classic albums ahead of her though. New Pornos stuff is also mostly just good not great in the 10s, with the exception of Whiteout Conditions which is excellent.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 18:26 (four years ago) link

I always liked War On Drugs! They sound like "Wilco, except good" to me

kelis navidad (flamboyant goon tie included), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 18:40 (four years ago) link

"Lust For Life" is an amazing song but I didn't really understand why people loved Girls so much beyond that. I got in an argument once about how "I wish I had a pizza and a bottle of wine" was a great lyric and I still maintain that it's a great lyric

kelis navidad (flamboyant goon tie included), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 18:41 (four years ago) link

I like them as background music in Argentine churrascerias and Spanish tapas joints and when colleagues make no grand claims for them: a solid minor band. Compare them Wire Train or something (or maybe CMJ or whoever made grand claims for Wire Train too?).

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 18:42 (four years ago) link

My jam on that first album was "Hellhole Ratrace"

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 31 December 2019 18:48 (four years ago) link

what tame impala? that dude was talked about a lot at one point. haven't seen much action lately.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 19:47 (four years ago) link

*what about

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 19:47 (four years ago) link

New album in a couple months iirc

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 19:50 (four years ago) link

maybe that will remind everyone of the previous hype*. . . but not soon enough to make the end of decade lists.

(*hype i never understood, tbh.)

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 19:57 (four years ago) link

to me, the early part of the decade was characterized by following a lot of bedroom pop that I don't see super heavily represented in these lists, but felt like they were talked/blogged about a lot. I get it; a lot of it hasn't aged the best and is mostly a genre where a lot of those artists cut their teeth rather than make their best stuff, but I still find a lot of that stuff to be charmingly economical but serious songwriting. a lot of the buzzy guitar bands are also less represented than I thought they'd be but I wouldn't say written out (cymbals eat guitars, cloud nothings, that kind of thing)

be the cowboy dan, Wednesday, 1 January 2020 01:40 (four years ago) link


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