iirc nyc has the most segregated schools in the country
― peloton for the painfully alone (m bison), Saturday, 21 December 2019 02:10 (four years ago) link
Yes, but a big part of the reason for that is that the whole system is only 15% white and a lot of the most affluent white people either put their kids in private school or leave for the suburbs. Even if you could achieve a perfect distribution of races across all public schools, so that each school was 15% white, I'm not sure what that would achieve, and you'd never get that anyway because a big chunk of those white people would just leave the system.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Sunday, 22 December 2019 01:53 (four years ago) link
Private school should be banned (cool radical belief)
― Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Sunday, 22 December 2019 04:07 (four years ago) link
some Stanford study on diversity benefitting students
can you link to this?
― flopson, Sunday, 22 December 2019 04:56 (four years ago) link
tbh I'm not sure which study or whether I'm even remembering correctly that it was stanford. DOE officials mentioned some study done a few years ago in a meeting as the basis for the diversity plans.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Sunday, 22 December 2019 05:03 (four years ago) link
so, I'm still not going to come out against callout or cancel culture, because I feel it isn't inherently good or bad, but ultimately comes down to how it is used. but incidents like this really make me averse to it: https://www.thewrap.com/kobe-bryant-dead-msnbc-n-word-alison-morris/
a friend shared this with me yesterday when the Kobe news was breaking, and I braced myself for what I thought was going to be a low-level affiliate broadcaster somehow letting an epithet fly on air. and I didn't hear it the first time, and I listened two more times, and it sounded like "nakers" to me. this was hours before she came out with her clarifying statement saying that this was exactly what she said - not being a sports reporter, accidentally started to say Knicks, and caught herself and combined the two.
nonetheless, there's a massive campaign of over 50,000 on social media trying to get her fired from her job, as well as harassing her on the internet. some are criticizing those who have stated they didn't hear an epithet, as if we're supposed to pretend we heard something we didn't.
I can't blame anybody in this hostile political climate for being anxious when they think they hear an epithet on live tv, regardless of whether she said it or not. but calmer heads aren't prevailing, and many are doubling down even when being told "you know, maybe this isn't what she said". and this is resulting in someone's livelihood being threatened as well as a harassment campaign on Twitter already underway.
I've never made any excuse for someone who has run afoul of human decency, whether it be racism, homophobia, etc, but this just makes me feel sick because there's certainly 'reasonable doubt' but everybody is pouncing.
― ... that's Traore! (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 03:43 (four years ago) link
a lot of that is pain about kobe dying and trying to take it out on an easy target
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 04:00 (four years ago) link
and that is a good point, I don't want to discount that by any means.
― ... that's Traore! (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 04:02 (four years ago) link
there was definitely a wide range of emotions with it - one of my best friends told me it outright ruined his day.
when you don't have a functioning system for holding people accountable for their words and deeds it's not terribly surprising that people will take enforcement of social norms into their own hands. nor are any of the consequences that follow from that terribly surprising.
― revenge of the jawn (rushomancy), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 04:58 (four years ago) link
house music: i'm perfectly happy if you wanna play the same beat over and over for an hour, but *please* spare me the single vocal line repeated every five fucking seconds
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 4 February 2020 01:13 (four years ago) link
why waste your time you know you're gonna be mine you know you're gonna be mine you know you're gonna be mine i'm gonna get you baybeh i'm gonna get you yes i am
― i am a horse girl (map), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 01:15 (four years ago) link
everybody got on the deck ten minutes ago goddammit
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 4 February 2020 01:16 (four years ago) link
also the deckdeckdeckdeck
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 4 February 2020 01:18 (four years ago) link
show trials and/or summary execution for prople who bring Wasabi (omnipresent “Japanese” takeaway place, not the paste) on public transport
― hyds (gyac), Monday, 24 February 2020 17:08 (four years ago) link
feeling very "don't tell me wtf to do" lately. also: plagues happen and they're the wildfires of humanity. also: as someone whose parents are garbage i can't help but feel we could do with some thinning in that demo.
― i am a horse girl (map), Sunday, 15 March 2020 23:19 (four years ago) link
i love my parents and my grandmother and am currently struggling to convince them to take this seriously
― flopson, Sunday, 15 March 2020 23:35 (four years ago) link
feeling visceral anger at 'boomer remover' puts me at odds with map but is equally uncool and conservative idk
― strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 22:11 (four years ago) link
at least map is being cold-eyed and sincere, making light of it is the greater aesthetic sin
― strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 22:13 (four years ago) link
'boomer remover' is annoying, yes, it's clearly the 'silent gen-eraser'
― Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 22:21 (four years ago) link
i honestly see nothing positive but the possibility that a few people at the top are going to die.
― i am a horse girl (map), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 22:23 (four years ago) link
People who steal hand sanitizers from hospital? Jail them. Fuck them for endangering vulnerable people.
― gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 22:29 (four years ago) link
my buddy is a nurse at a pediatric oncology unit and said that they have had to start searching the medical staff for masks and sanitizer on the way out the door because they were running out. This was five weeks ago!
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 23:38 (four years ago) link
i have actually been really surprised at how fundamentally competent the us government response to the pandemic has been. oh, don't get me wrong, it's not been adequate, but i'm not sure a truly adequate response was necessarily in the realm of possibility. i guess really i'm surprised at the number of people who actually know what they're doing still left in the government after three years of a racist idiot calling the shots. this is even more noteworthy when compared to the uk government response, which has, from what little i can tell, been the complete and utter failure i was sort of expecting the american federal response to be.
― Kate (rushomancy), Friday, 20 March 2020 13:14 (four years ago) link
xpost I couldn't find n95 masks back in january without it being a price gouge on amazon. I don't know what they were thinking by not starting manufacture of them right away.
― Yerac, Friday, 20 March 2020 13:18 (four years ago) link
I think they were all just like “oh, this must be someone else’s problem”
― Karl Malone, Friday, 20 March 2020 19:54 (four years ago) link
This global crisis should be handled individually by all the governors. This global crisis is a perfect fit for 50 different state governments to handle
― Karl Malone, Friday, 20 March 2020 19:55 (four years ago) link
handling thing state by state does make a lot of sense. i wonder if some states do a better job of quarantining than others if there might be closed state borders set up at some pt
― Mordy, Friday, 20 March 2020 20:13 (four years ago) link
states have a role to play (a leading role, even!) but this is exactly the kind of situation that is best suited for federal oversight
― Karl Malone, Friday, 20 March 2020 20:41 (four years ago) link
in some ways the shelter in place orders' definition of essential businesses should be taken to heart after the pandemic has passed. The non-essential workers should take up useful occupations. At least 10% should become plumbers and another 10% should become structural engineers.
― sarahell, Saturday, 21 March 2020 03:36 (four years ago) link
The government is still hiring.
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 21 March 2020 04:00 (four years ago) link
thinking of applying at FEMA, for real. the writing is on the wall for my current job
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 21 March 2020 16:24 (four years ago) link
kinda feeling pretty good about my current career, which is basically: "helping people fill out forms in order to get money / reduce the amount of money they have to pay the government" and navigating bureaucracy, in general ...
― sarahell, Saturday, 21 March 2020 17:22 (four years ago) link
re: state vs federal on coronavirus:
As hospitals prepare for a flood of desperately ill patients unable to breathe on their own, mechanical ventilators have become the single most important piece of equipment that can mean the difference between life and death.Now, with American hospitals facing a grave shortage of the vital devices, the Big Three automakers, small engineering firms, software designers and medical equipment manufacturers are rushing to figure out ways to produce more of them. But President Trump has so far declined to use powers that public health experts say could make a real difference in getting more ventilators to places that need them the most — right now.What is really needed, a number of public health experts and former government officials say, is for Washington to take control of the nation’s existing ventilator supply. Because peak coronavirus infections will hit cities and regions at different times in the coming months, a centralized federal effort could send unused machines to hospitals that need them most.“This is a national crisis,” said Frank Kendall, who served as under secretary of defense for acquisition and logistics in the Obama administration. “In a time of scarcity, you can’t leave it up to companies and governors to manage it themselves.”
Now, with American hospitals facing a grave shortage of the vital devices, the Big Three automakers, small engineering firms, software designers and medical equipment manufacturers are rushing to figure out ways to produce more of them. But President Trump has so far declined to use powers that public health experts say could make a real difference in getting more ventilators to places that need them the most — right now.
What is really needed, a number of public health experts and former government officials say, is for Washington to take control of the nation’s existing ventilator supply. Because peak coronavirus infections will hit cities and regions at different times in the coming months, a centralized federal effort could send unused machines to hospitals that need them most.
“This is a national crisis,” said Frank Kendall, who served as under secretary of defense for acquisition and logistics in the Obama administration. “In a time of scarcity, you can’t leave it up to companies and governors to manage it themselves.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/25/health/ventilators-coronavirus.html
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 26 March 2020 01:12 (four years ago) link
What is really needed, a number of public health experts and former government officials say, is for Washington to take control of the nation’s existing ventilator supply.
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Thursday, 26 March 2020 01:42 (four years ago) link
we should just put a big asterisk on the 2016-present era that whenever we recommend that "washington" or congress or the white house do something, it means not the crazy fascist ones
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 26 March 2020 01:45 (four years ago) link
“we meant the dc government, not the federal one”
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 26 March 2020 01:51 (four years ago) link
For anyone who thinks "we can afford to lose some olds," we could still easily lose anywhere from a few hundred thousand to a couple million working age adults in the US alone based on what current death rates by age look like.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 26 March 2020 03:02 (four years ago) link
Are you talking to map?
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 26 March 2020 04:32 (four years ago) link
“People might get the misinterpretation you’re just going to lift everything up,” Dr. Fauci said, explaining Mr. Trump’s impatience to jump-start the economy and tell Americans they could resume everyday life. “That’s not going to happen,” Dr. Fauci said. “It’s going to be looking at the data” in regions of the country where there was not an obvious outbreak of the virus.As a practical matter, however, Mr. Trump does not have the power to decide whether the country can reopen. He can issue federal guidelines, but the decision of whether to return to business as usual is up to each state.
As a practical matter, however, Mr. Trump does not have the power to decide whether the country can reopen. He can issue federal guidelines, but the decision of whether to return to business as usual is up to each state.
you know, uh, maybe the states should actually take the lead then. jfc shit is bleak
― Karl Malone, Friday, 27 March 2020 04:24 (four years ago) link
Are they not doing that? Inslee told us today to prepare for an extension of the stay home directive beyond the initial two weeks.
― silby, Friday, 27 March 2020 04:35 (four years ago) link
Sorry about other states I guess :/
Anyway why is this in the uncool conservative belief thread I’m real confused
― silby, Friday, 27 March 2020 04:36 (four years ago) link
i'm replying to an upthread conversation i was having (mostly with myself, heh!) about the appropriate role of state vs federal in responding to coronavirus
― Karl Malone, Friday, 27 March 2020 04:40 (four years ago) link
Maybe the states can nullify the virus
― silby, Friday, 27 March 2020 04:44 (four years ago) link
This is where I feel sorry for poor people in the stupider states. Poor people in California actually have it better rn. We aren't getting back to business / normal any time soon.
― sarahell, Friday, 27 March 2020 15:34 (four years ago) link
that was the issue that got the 4 GOP senators so riled up - that the poorest people might end up actually being slightly poor, for 4 months
― Karl Malone, Friday, 27 March 2020 15:37 (four years ago) link
because they care so much about poor people? wait what?
― sarahell, Friday, 27 March 2020 15:52 (four years ago) link
life begins at conception and ends at 150% of the median income
― Karl Malone, Friday, 27 March 2020 16:12 (four years ago) link
tattoos are absurd
none of them improve on the actual human body, 95% of them are risible, the other 5% are like if you wore your favorite t-shirt every day forever
it's almost hot that you are willing to accept pain for yr beliefs, but much less so when it's mistranslated kanji or a 'druidic' wreath
― mookieproof, Sunday, 5 April 2020 06:11 (four years ago) link