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Pretty good episode. The Mr. Robinson and Velvet Jones sketches did a clever job of placing those characters in 2019, even if the timing in the latter was a bit wonky. Buckwheat felt like more of a missed opportunity; as with Gumby, I suspect a lot of younger SNL viewers had no idea who these characters were, but the Gumby bit was a least funny.

Michael Che forcing Colin Jost to tell self-incriminating racist jokes will never not be funny.

Thought this was great. The Bake Off skit had me in tears. That hasn't happened with me and a comedy skit in years. Also - hysterical elf!

watched this with my wife and son (my wife, same age as me and her first SNL exposure as a kid was the Murphy years) and those were all gold for us; my son (13) has actually never seen him so I wondered how those would go down and he thought they were really funny (probably funnier than I thought they were; I loved it but it's hard to tell how much nostaligia painted my view)

the bake off skit was great, I want someone to make me that cake. Murphy slipped up twice and cursed, right? We got to silenced bits on Hulu Live, one at the end of that skit and one later but I can't remember where.

I thought he only cursed at end of bake off skit? Watched the individual skits on YT so not sure how it went down live.

Of the recurring bits, Eddie seemed to be having the most fun with Gumby. Bake-off sketch was killer, and yeah, I think that was the only time he cursed. He did curse in a cut-for-time sketch, but obviously that didn't air live.

Would the kids today get Buckwheat in 2019, though? In the early '80s, the Little Rascals/Our Gang shorts were staples on UHF channels, but the chances anyone would come across those by accident in the last 15-20 years seem slim.

yeah my 13-yo niece has no knowledge of Gumby or Our Gang, just Mr Rogers

… but ppl who have seen fewer than 300 westerns are missing many jokes in Blazing Saddles

Eddie cursed in bakeoff, and I could have sworn Cecily said "Merry Fucking Christmas" in weekend update. Eddie was OK. I doubt most younger people know his characters (like, the fame of Gumby, let alone Buckwheat, at this point is several times removed), and he flubbed a bunch, breaking twice, but I did appreciate seeing him enthusiastic for once. My 12-year old didn't think any of it was funny, fwiw.

He skinned a few things but in the whole I thought he was much stronger on stage with cue cards than most guests.

Also Cosby can fuck right off with his freak out bullshit re: Murphy’s monologue.

The statement from Cosby’s representative was some pure “fuck me for ever finding Cosby funny” horseshit

jeez guys show your kids some gumby, that stuff is timeless

I had no idea who Gumby was when the SNL version first debuted and i laughed so hard at the sketch that I tracked down who he was pre-internet. (It helped that some syndication channels picked up on Murphy’s impact and started including Gumby in their afternoon cartoon lineups.)

Eddie aside, I only ever knew Gumby as a keychain.

In some ways Home for the Holidays was one of the best-executed things I've seen from SNL in a long time -- the concept was simple and timeless almost to the point of triteness, yet the delivery of each line, the timing of the editing, etc., was perfect and it made me laugh extremely hard as a result.

They did the same thing but for thanksgiving, or Xmas last year. I don’t remember.

They showed last year's xmas skit at 10pm, similar, with the current niceness and flashbacks to the hassles of the run-up.

I watched both Gumby and the Murphy Gumby sketch as a kid fwiw, but we are definitely very far removed from both Gumby and from the type Murphy plays it as (grizzled Jewish actor with a legit yiddish accent).

absolutely, the concept of "Catskills comic" is fusty even tho Shecky Greene still lives

Lol it is truly terrible that kids today will not understand Eddie Murphy’s revival of his 35 comedic characters

35 year old that is

well it's not terrible but they might well be confused

kinda like when Mel Blanc does a Joe Besser impression at the end of a 1946 Looney Tune

it does kinda blow my mind that Murphy's revivals are equivalent to Buster Keaton doing his silent bits on early '60s TV

I'm going to guess that most 12 year olds in 2000 didn't know what Blue Oyster Cult was

Watched this with a late-20s friend who had no idea who buckwheat was and also didn’t recognize Chris rock.

Tracy Morgan’s “I made my millions on the road” home made me laugh the hardest.

That was brutally funny

That was brutally funny

I had no idea who Gumby was when the SNL version first debuted and i laughed so hard at the sketch that I tracked down who he was pre-internet. (It helped that some syndication channels picked up on Murphy’s impact and started including Gumby in their afternoon cartoon lineups.)

― totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Sunday, December 22, 2019 11:27 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Yep, I too initially only knew Gumby as a bizarre and hilarious Murphy creation. We also had UHF stations digging Gumby out of mothballs, which a) put Murphy's bit into context, and b) was pretty psychedelic. The Museum Of The Moving Image in Queens had a fascinating Art Clokey/Gumby exhibit some years ago, and holy hell, putting those shorts together was beyond painstaking.

I want to say there was a more traditionally animated Gumby show in the late-80s, possibly inspired in theory if not practice by Murphy's rendition.

true. plus there was a Gumby movie in 1995.

A- clokey is tha god
B - go find Art Adams and Bob Burden’s excellent comics take on the character

Lol I loved the "I made my millions on the road" joke. I knew something like that was coming and it still killed me.

for some reason they showed Gumby stop motion on TV when I was like 4 at some ungodly hour in the morning (5am or something). So I was already a Gumby fan but I moved by the time I was 12 and absolutely no one I knew at that age had any idea who Gumby was.

https://theoutline.com/post/8583/michael-che-feud-snl-jack-allison

can we just talk about how that guy's twitter handle is 'jackallisonLOL'

the outline is just the worst

i watched 'Papyrus' again last night, and it may never be beat, just perfection

What's bad about The Outline?

It all depends on what you compare it to.

as a bearded white guy with glasses who also thinks snl sucks i want to feel kinship but

xp how does it compare to SNL

When he said “his show sucks” I assumed he meant Che’s standup special on Netflix which does suck.

I'm not a Michael Che booster or anything but I got about a third into that article and my overwhelming takeaway was "white man mad he can't say any old thing to black man and not get called on it"

Like, yes there's a point about the insanity of the SNL submission fine print that I agree with but... you're a fucking entitled man-baby who should die

nah that policy is bonkers and needed calling out

SNL/Lorne assholery would be more tolerable if the show wasn’t so relentlessly dull and cowardly

I actually don’t mind Che in update but he comes off as a real fuck here and shame on him for that formatting

Argh zing-touched! fuck=dick

I'm not sure what was ambiguous about "yes there's a point about the insanity of the SNL submission fine print that I agree with" that required rebutting

I just don’t think this guy is out of line for calling Che out on it.

the entitlement here is SNL’s

The entitlement is coming from both of them and the fact that dude wrote a gigantic "poor me, a famous person keeps making fun of me after I made fun of his work" pity party article is fucking dumb.

But hey, solidarity