for some reason they showed Gumby stop motion on TV when I was like 4 at some ungodly hour in the morning (5am or something). So I was already a Gumby fan but I moved by the time I was 12 and absolutely no one I knew at that age had any idea who Gumby was.
― akm, Monday, 23 December 2019 16:44 (four years ago) link
https://theoutline.com/post/8583/michael-che-feud-snl-jack-allison
― Mordy, Wednesday, 22 January 2020 23:01 (four years ago) link
can we just talk about how that guy's twitter handle is 'jackallisonLOL'
― global tetrahedron, Thursday, 23 January 2020 02:03 (four years ago) link
the outline is just the worst
― global tetrahedron, Thursday, 23 January 2020 02:04 (four years ago) link
i watched 'Papyrus' again last night, and it may never be beat, just perfection
― I have not yet begun to fart (rip van wanko), Thursday, 23 January 2020 02:18 (four years ago) link
What's bad about The Outline?
― JRN, Thursday, 23 January 2020 02:43 (four years ago) link
It all depends on what you compare it to.
― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 23 January 2020 03:49 (four years ago) link
as a bearded white guy with glasses who also thinks snl sucks i want to feel kinship but
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 23 January 2020 06:24 (four years ago) link
xp how does it compare to SNL
― Corduroy Stridulations (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 23 January 2020 06:27 (four years ago) link
When he said “his show sucks” I assumed he meant Che’s standup special on Netflix which does suck.
― akm, Thursday, 23 January 2020 06:49 (four years ago) link
I'm not a Michael Che booster or anything but I got about a third into that article and my overwhelming takeaway was "white man mad he can't say any old thing to black man and not get called on it"
― totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Thursday, 23 January 2020 14:05 (four years ago) link
Like, yes there's a point about the insanity of the SNL submission fine print that I agree with but... you're a fucking entitled man-baby who should die
― totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Thursday, 23 January 2020 14:06 (four years ago) link
nah that policy is bonkers and needed calling outSNL/Lorne assholery would be more tolerable if the show wasn’t so relentlessly dull and cowardly
― Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 23 January 2020 14:12 (four years ago) link
I actually don’t mind Che in update but he comes off as a real fuck here and shame on him for that formatting
― Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 23 January 2020 14:13 (four years ago) link
Argh zing-touched! fuck=dick
― Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 23 January 2020 14:14 (four years ago) link
I'm not sure what was ambiguous about "yes there's a point about the insanity of the SNL submission fine print that I agree with" that required rebutting
― totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Thursday, 23 January 2020 14:17 (four years ago) link
I just don’t think this guy is out of line for calling Che out on it.
― Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 23 January 2020 14:23 (four years ago) link
the entitlement here is SNL’s
― Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 23 January 2020 14:24 (four years ago) link
The entitlement is coming from both of them and the fact that dude wrote a gigantic "poor me, a famous person keeps making fun of me after I made fun of his work" pity party article is fucking dumb.
― totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Thursday, 23 January 2020 14:29 (four years ago) link
But hey, solidarity
I think when Che starts sharing messages that the bearded dude is a Trump-supporting cocaine addict who spends all his time at strip clubs, that it crosses the line where it honestly should be grounds for dismissal. But as long as Brett Stephens is still at NYT, that idea is clearly not mainstream.
― Frederik B, Thursday, 23 January 2020 14:33 (four years ago) link
im always baffled by comics that publicly shit on comedy jobs. here’s some unsolicited advice for people who wanna work in comedy, lol don’t do that. I mean, unless ‘twitter personality’ is your professional ceiling.. it’s a bad idea.”
Second, life is long and full of unexpected turns. Imagine, for instance, that one day you are up for a big journalism award. Imagine, next, that someone you’ve insulted sits on the prize committee. Or suppose you apply for a dream job at a major publication, and your CV gets passed around. It’s fine to make unnecessary friends, but extremely unwise to make unnecessary enemies.
poll these career advices
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 23 January 2020 14:51 (four years ago) link
Personally I'm in the camp of "Che can be amusing on Weekend Update but his solo special was meh."
I am also in the camp of sometimes being amused that comics start out making observational jokes about parts of life that more or less everyone experiences (being at a coffee shop, having relationships, etc.). Then as their careers progress, they subtly shift into making observational jokes about the life of being a reasonably successful comic (planes, airports, hotels, nightclub audiences, having Netflix specials).
I begin to suspect that most comics would be funnier to us if we were all constantly flying places, staying in hotels, and standing on stages saying things.
― Okay, you're an ambulance (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 23 January 2020 16:34 (four years ago) link
good observation there, YMP
― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 23 January 2020 16:37 (four years ago) link
Patton Oswalt had a bit of a "what's the deal with being an extremely successful comedian?" slump some years back, but managed to get at least one funny bit out of it (being paid obscene money for drunken audience members to shout his movie roles at him for 20 minutes).
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 23 January 2020 16:46 (four years ago) link
A very famous Danish comic had this journey. He grew up in a rough area, had a lot of great observational humour on both the rough parts of the country as well as condescending elites. Got very famous. Then his next show there's a bit that goes 'so I was on this yacht...' and another bit on what the deal was with bulk discounts, why not just pay for what you need? And then the next show was about how tax rates are two high and people are too envious of those who do well.
― Frederik B, Thursday, 23 January 2020 16:56 (four years ago) link
"What is the deal with assistants who break their NDAs?"
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 23 January 2020 16:58 (four years ago) link
― JRN, Wednesday, January 22, 2020 7:43 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
poorly edited, full of bad takes, pretty much every bad web design trend employed at once. they publish decent stuff once in a while though
― american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 January 2020 16:59 (four years ago) link
this piece kinda sucks however, djp otm
― american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 January 2020 17:02 (four years ago) link
jack allison is very annoying, SNL is intolerable and must die, I will not be reading this but I hope everyone involved loses
― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Thursday, 23 January 2020 17:04 (four years ago) link
a lot of people on this thread have placed weird expectations on snl. It's fine. Some weeks are better than others. even some of the gilded periods were kind of iffy. I enjoy watching it on Sunday morning. I didn't read that article because I had thought the guy who wrote it had been the one engaged to Lena Dunham. I am wrong.
― Yerac, Thursday, 23 January 2020 18:53 (four years ago) link
it's terrible and should be put out of its misery
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 23 January 2020 18:55 (four years ago) link
The Hartman-Carvey-Meyers era is p good. The Sandler-Spade-Farley era is awful, most of the 80s stuff is awful, the original cast has some very high bright spots and a lot of garbage. Peak was actually the Fey-Farrell era. Everything after has been diminishing returns, and the Trump episode was the point of no return.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 23 January 2020 18:57 (four years ago) link
I am trying to think of a show I hate watch. hmmm. I did watch a bunch of episodes of Say Yes to the Dress the other day Sometimes I want to poop all over the OA thread but I didn't watch it past the first season.
― Yerac, Thursday, 23 January 2020 18:59 (four years ago) link
I haven't watched this show since they announced Trump would be on. I've seen clips and tweets and shit like that I guess.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 23 January 2020 19:01 (four years ago) link
Hartman-Carvey-Lovitz-Dunn-Hooks-Nealon-Miller-Jackson era was great. Myers came in a bit later but really added to it nicely. Sandler/Spade/Farley/etc was a decent crew but it started to be less of a great ensemble and more of an outlandish highlights reel in terms of the characters. Fey/Farrell/etc is ok. I think the ideas they came up with were more inspired than the execution a lot of the time. those two are fine but v overrated in SNL history. the original SNL troupe was great most of the time though some of the material falls flat. and Dennis Perrin....otm....about Jane Curtin upthread.
― omar little, Thursday, 23 January 2020 19:11 (four years ago) link
(xpost to shakey) ^ This. As a life-long minor league SNL obsessive (even while acknowledging its plentiful flaws), it's still occasionally stunning to me how quickly and easily I walked away after Lorne pulled that shit.
― Dr. Teeth and the Women (Old Lunch), Thursday, 23 January 2020 19:13 (four years ago) link
Random bite-sized notes on other eras while we are unmoored from the present moment: I really like about 1/3 of the Doumanian cast (I rail every chance I get about Gail Matthius being robbed of the career she deserved due to being shackled to that doomed season), and Danitra Vance (RIP) was an MVP in Lorne's first season back while Robert Downey, Jr. shocked the hell out of me by being quite possibly the worst cast member in SNL history.
― Dr. Teeth and the Women (Old Lunch), Thursday, 23 January 2020 19:18 (four years ago) link
Danitra Vance was great, never got her due.
Downey was awful, but worse than Anthony Michael Hall?
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 23 January 2020 19:21 (four years ago) link
only if your exposure to comedy is watching rich people do Netflix specials. PEBCAK, not with "most comics".
― don't care didn't ask still clappin (sic), Thursday, 23 January 2020 19:29 (four years ago) link
xpost Yes. Downey was a terrible comedic performer in that context and perpetually seemed like he just didn't want to be there.
― Dr. Teeth and the Women (Old Lunch), Thursday, 23 January 2020 19:31 (four years ago) link
"I'm not a Michael Che booster or anything but I got about a third into that article and my overwhelming takeaway was "white man mad he can't say any old thing to black man and not get called on it""
he wasn't really saying anything to Che though. Che just jumped on him for criticizing the show.
― akm, Thursday, 23 January 2020 19:35 (four years ago) link
that said I think Che is great on SNL, as is Jost.
che seems like a sad fuck tbh
― bidenfan69420 (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 23 January 2020 19:37 (four years ago) link
he's better than jost but that's "best dressed man in albania" territory
― bidenfan69420 (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 23 January 2020 19:38 (four years ago) link
Yeah I think Che is clearly weird as hell and mocking people through Instagram stories filled with twitter screenshots would seem to be the dumbest way of engaging with criticism. On the other hand when I look at Jack Allison’s twitter he’s posting links to discussions of this drama on fucking livejournal.
― JoeStork, Friday, 24 January 2020 00:40 (four years ago) link
I think I dipped on twitter as this beef was starting, but Leslie hitting Che with the Dan Crenshaw zing is 😙👌
― A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Friday, 24 January 2020 13:40 (four years ago) link
On the other hand when I look at Jack Allison’s twitter he’s posting links to discussions of this drama on fucking livejournal.
lol
― bidenfan69420 (jim in vancouver), Friday, 24 January 2020 17:06 (four years ago) link
imo reflects even worse on Che that this is his nemesis
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 24 January 2020 19:00 (four years ago) link
lol I can get behind that
― totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Friday, 24 January 2020 19:03 (four years ago) link