which is the best James Bond movie?

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casino is great until the car crash

its so bad after that it ruins what comes before

quantum of solace is overall better

russia with love best, goldeneye is good

Banáná hÉireann (darraghmac), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 22:02 (four years ago) link

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Diana Rigg is a magician basically

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 31 December 2019 22:02 (four years ago) link

goldeneye is a lot of fun

still bad tho obv

hot nuts (small) (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 22:05 (four years ago) link

Goldeneye was the first Bond after 6 years - a long time back in the mid 90s - so a lot of it's faults were overlooked at the time. But it's slow in places (Zhukov is a great character but his scenes are over-long), the villain reveal is really obvious, and the whole movie loses focus once they get to the jungle (also from then on it feels like a made-for-TV movie). Still it fairs better than the other Brosnan Bonds, which all feel like videogames adapted into movies.

just another country (snoball), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 22:20 (four years ago) link

here's how good OHMSS is: it stars an asshole male model with no acting experience who did not speak to the director for the duration of the shoot and had to have his dialogue dubbed over in post and it still rules so hard that he seems 'fine' in it

― don't care didn't ask still clappin (sic), Tuesday, December 31, 2019 2:46 PM (thirty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

he's better than "fine," his weaknesses are vastly overstated

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 22:26 (four years ago) link

and he's a downright incredible bond when viewed next to connery's total boredom and indifference in diamonds are forever

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 22:27 (four years ago) link

i think goldeneye is overrated bc of the video game, which is so much better than the film

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 22:29 (four years ago) link

yeah but ‘xenia onatopp’ tho, all-time great stupid name

hot nuts (small) (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 22:31 (four years ago) link

my favorite brosnan bond is the world is not enough though, which many ppl think is the worst. it's sort of the inverse of ohmss in plot in that it features a credible *love* interest for bond but it goes the other direction with it. denise richards being HORRIBLE in it is just a plus for me tbh

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 22:31 (four years ago) link

i love to express my opinions about bond movies over and over and over again on ilx

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 22:32 (four years ago) link

A quick (if obvious) rep for the books - Moonraker, Casino Royale and FRWL are all classic; most of the rest are worth reading and have many very good bits; the only dud I’ve read, oddly, is goldfinger - the movie improves the plot and thankfully gets rid of most of the fucking golf

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 31 December 2019 22:34 (four years ago) link

Love the golf in Golffinger

Kebabs Windsor (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 22:35 (four years ago) link

oddjobbly enough

Banáná hÉireann (darraghmac), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 22:36 (four years ago) link

Brad otfm throughout, esp about Lazenby

glindr jackson (gyac), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 22:40 (four years ago) link

films were also correct to rename smersh spectre

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 22:40 (four years ago) link

oh nm i have got that all backwards

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 22:41 (four years ago) link

apologies the only og book i've read is from russia with love and that was when i was a teenager lol

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 22:42 (four years ago) link

Lazenby is also better than Moore in Moore’s last five

don't care didn't ask still clappin (sic), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 22:42 (four years ago) link

Casino Royale is really good, casually misogynistic throughout, but I really liked it at the time.

glindr jackson (gyac), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 22:45 (four years ago) link

Just watching the ski chase and it’s so great, one of the better scores on this bit as well.

https://youtu.be/bwYpX3JwMu0

glindr jackson (gyac), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 22:49 (four years ago) link

brad, read the books, you fool

the best ones are legit weird, fun and beautiful

even the researchy chapters about tropical fish and bridge are great

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 31 December 2019 22:59 (four years ago) link

lol i might read through a few this year, it's about time

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 23:03 (four years ago) link

I assumed this was on the New Answers because the terrible end of Spectre is on TV.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 31 December 2019 23:06 (four years ago) link

Moonraker seems to me the most striking example of good book/bad movie, whereas The Spy Who Loved Me might be the best example of bad book/good movie (which have nothing in common plotwise).

Josefa, Tuesday, 31 December 2019 23:24 (four years ago) link

when Diana Rigg or snow chases aren't onscreen, OHMSS is boooooooooring

― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, February 15, 2012 8:30 PM

I stand by this. However, the NY Times just did a piece on its high status with the Bondfreaks, including new quotes from Lazenby and Rigg. (came out 50 years ago this month)

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 1 January 2020 00:01 (four years ago) link

whereas The Spy Who Loved Me might be the best example of bad book/good movie (which have nothing in common plotwise).

incorrect, the book is incredible

don't care didn't ask still clappin (sic), Wednesday, 1 January 2020 02:13 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Gotta give that a rewatch

omar little, Saturday, 18 January 2020 21:52 (four years ago) link

sic otm

american bradass (BradNelson), Saturday, 18 January 2020 22:45 (four years ago) link

I know that's not her in the pics but as an aside I often think Diana Rigg is the most beautiful woman who ever lived

the Swedish taboo (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 18 January 2020 22:47 (four years ago) link

swoon

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 18 January 2020 23:00 (four years ago) link

Good piece

the Swedish taboo (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 18 January 2020 23:41 (four years ago) link

That’s a great piece and this

What seems obvious to me, though, is no one was helping him during the shoot or the edit (they won’t even let him finish a fucking sentence onscreen). It feels like everyone was so focused on what he wasn’t (Sean Connery) that they didn’t take the time to figure out what he was (a cool-looking dude with genuine presence and great physicality).

Cut because zing, but incredibly otm. Like he was Not Sean Connery and this in and of itself did a huge number on him. It’s ridiculous when you see how cartoonish the role got with later actors. If he’d been the third Bond, would we remember him better? Feel like his working reputation did for him too.

steer karma (gyac), Saturday, 18 January 2020 23:48 (four years ago) link

(they won’t even let him finish a fucking sentence onscreen)

and he's dubbed half the time anyway

would totally watch a version of this film with isolated score

don't care didn't ask still clappin (sic), Sunday, 19 January 2020 02:21 (four years ago) link

I can't tell any of these films apart
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:15 (twelve years ago) link

This might be peak Shakey.

Anyway, I remember seeing OHMSS when I was 11-13 after having seen at least Dr. No, From Russia with Love, and Goldfinger. Probably Thunderball as well. Sad to say I was just devastated at the end. It seemed soooooo real, lol.

The Traveling Wilkes-Barre's (PBKR), Sunday, 19 January 2020 04:00 (four years ago) link

Dr. No? Quantum of Solace? Moonraker? what am I watching here?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 19 January 2020 04:29 (four years ago) link

two years pass...

watching from russia with love bcz it's on tv and it's too hot to channel-surf

mark s, Sunday, 17 July 2022 17:25 (one year ago) link

it's bad

mark s, Sunday, 17 July 2022 17:25 (one year ago) link

Because it's on ITV1 and there's likely a commercial break every 10 minutes?

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Sunday, 17 July 2022 17:40 (one year ago) link

the commercials are a blessed relief from how bad it is

mark s, Sunday, 17 July 2022 17:40 (one year ago) link

as is the small screen

mark s, Sunday, 17 July 2022 17:40 (one year ago) link

you gotta be fuckin kidding me

if From Russia w Love is bad, what rates for you as good?

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 17 July 2022 17:45 (one year ago) link

they're still all bad

― mark s, Tuesday, 31 December 2019 16:51 (two years ago) bookmarkflaglink

mark s, Sunday, 17 July 2022 17:49 (one year ago) link

!

Just been looking at a really good book called The Music of James Bond, by Jon Burlingame.

L.H.O.O.Q. Jones (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 July 2022 17:49 (one year ago) link

lol I see you are unfamiliar with mark's Bond opinion

pasty drunks fuck off (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 July 2022 17:52 (one year ago) link

Seems to be coming back to me now.

L.H.O.O.Q. Jones (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 July 2022 18:08 (one year ago) link

i forgot where i was, continue

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 17 July 2022 18:34 (one year ago) link


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