Just Like a POLL Without a Key! A Poll of New Order's Brotherhood

Every Little Counts. Saw them on the tour for this record. Bernard sang, 'Every second counts, when I'm fucking you'

No-one i've met likes this record much. They almost never do tracks from it live iirc?

I love this version of "Paradise" from Reading '98

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ct2T7aW_d8Y

and "As It Is When It Was":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-T3yzQbMVE

the first three songs of this album are so bad that it hurts.

I never even bought this one, don't know why.

Sleeve uninspiring maybe. Wasn't totally sold on the singles, possibly. Something else happening? Quite probably.

My least favorite NO album (noting that I've never heard anything post-Technique front to back). I don't come to NO for jangly guitar mope. Even the album version of "BLT" is suboptimal. With it eliminated from contention, I guess... "Paradise"?

I wouldn't call 'Broken Promise' or "Way of Life" victims of guitar mope at all -- the rhythms are too sprightly (and the acoustic guitar on "As It Is" works as a wtf moment). I remembered a description written by a Select writer in '93 reassessing NO's albums: "Elsewhere, the Bass of Hook prowls the first side, presumably with a hangover."

the album version of BLT is the best one

Sleeve uninspiring maybe

when i got into new order (in pre-internet days) i bought everything i could find by them... except this album which i'd always passed by, unaware of what it was. it was years later that i saw the sleeve online and realized "oh! so that's brotherhood".

Nice to see Gillian playing guitars in those clips. No one is (should be) listening to NO primarily for the guitars, necessary, but it's interesting to see who brings what in terms of texture. Also interesting to see the band in that '98 clip relying so much on backing tracks for the synths and backing vox.

the magic of new order is they were also incidentally the best guitar-pop band in the world when they wanted to be

No one is (should be) listening to NO primarily for the guitars

lol what?

Oh, I like the guitars! I just mean it's the electronic/dance elements that really set them apart, imo. That and good songs. Or I guess you could say it's the guitars that set them apart from a lot of electronic/dance music, I suppose. Anyway, when anyone describes a band as being like New Order, they're rarely talking about the guitars, imo

I just assume they mean the lead singer is terrible

"Limp Bizkit, a New Order-influenced band from Florida ... "

checks out

http://img4.bdbphotos.com/images/230x300/e/p/epe5tvz6zherh6ez.jpg?skj2io4l

https://images.complex.com/complex/images/c_limit,dpr_auto,q_90,w_720/fl_lossy,pg_1/hzuevut6p7azm9jt7x69/fred-durst

just an odd take, since for me Peter Hook's bass playing is just about one of the most distinctive things in music

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Oh I missed that - I would have voted for Broken Promise with Paradise a close second. Like others, it's the NO album I know least (including the come-back albums which I love). Unlike others, I really don't like "All day Long" and "Every Little Counts" which I think turned me off this album. Something about barney's singing that I find really off-putting on these songs (kinda similar in thsi regard to Love Vigilantes and 1963)

I too have always been a bit baffled by the love for those two songs, in particular. I think I missed the poll but I probably would have voted "Paradise." This is definitely not my favorite NO album.

Having recently seen Wagner's Rheingold at the opera, I was struck by the similarity between the synth line in All Day Long beginning at around 3'10" and the Rhine leitmotif emerging in the Rheingold's prelude at ca. 2 minutes into the piece.

For comparison:

https://youtu.be/MuHNXoZvlgg?t=189

https://youtu.be/gH4947fQcgo

Isn't the Reinghold the walk on music for New Order typically?

Thanks! Haven't really kept up with NO after Technique, so that's news to me. Checking recent setlists and concert clips, the Rheingold prelude indeed is their walk on music, so the ADL string synth part is definitely a conscious borrowing.

The walk-on music last Saturday was "Times Change."

Yeah, I watched a very long video compiled from the Miami shows and that instrumental version of Times Change was the best thing they 'played' in 4 days. Mostly due to Bernard not singing on it. Although Dream Attack sounded great.

The Saturday show was solid. The show last January was superb.

It's so much better in person than it is watching a hand held youtube stream.

Despite squishing together several superior NO singles, "Angel Dust" is perfect orientalist goth.