Jim Crane says Jeff Luhnow and A.J. Hinch have been dismissed.— Jake Kaplan (@jakemkaplan) January 13, 2020
― mookieproof, Monday, 13 January 2020 20:05 (four years ago) link
Wow. Manfred also went after the Astros’ baseball ops culture. He called it "very problematic” and “insular” and "one that valued and rewarded results over other considerations.” I am surprised he would make those points so bluntly in this report.— Marc Carig (@MarcCarig) January 13, 2020
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 13 January 2020 20:09 (four years ago) link
i knew if i saved this picture on my phone that one day the perfect news cycle would hit pic.twitter.com/tKAuxiZVxB— ric sanchez (@ricsanchez) January 13, 2020
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 13 January 2020 21:29 (four years ago) link
a lot of people (online) think this still didn't go far enough – but daym if this isn't much harsher than i was expecting! esp glad Taubman got spanked hard.
can't wait to see what they do to Cora, he may very well get the worst of it.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 13 January 2020 21:42 (four years ago) link
well Luhnow is likely done in baseball so it's hard to sketch 'worse'
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 13 January 2020 21:45 (four years ago) link
anyone could hire him on, in theory, after his suspension tho.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 13 January 2020 21:52 (four years ago) link
less likely than Hinch i think
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 13 January 2020 22:17 (four years ago) link
luhnow 'accepts responsibility' but was clueless; it was all the fault of 'lower-level employees' and alex cora
Here is Jeff Luhnow's full statement, his first response to today's news. pic.twitter.com/9AbDFEtkbP— Jared Diamond (@jareddiamond) January 13, 2020
― mookieproof, Monday, 13 January 2020 22:52 (four years ago) link
Happy new year “bro”. I hope this year you find happiness, clearly the most miserable soul on this app. GOD BLESS ❄️❄️❄️❄️❄️❄️❄️ https://t.co/w4kxR4Ejya— Lance McCullers Jr. (@LMcCullers43) January 13, 2020
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Monday, 13 January 2020 23:43 (four years ago) link
^^^ Clevinger & Bauer went after McCullers but shit's all getting deleted, that's one of the few virtues of twitter embeds I guess. ^^^
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 00:51 (four years ago) link
i think the real lesson we've learned here is: never leave mike fiers off your playoff roster
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 14 January 2020 03:12 (four years ago) link
Didn't expect people to get fired over this. Sean Payton wasn't fired by the Saints (sorry, football mention on a baseball board) in the headhunting scandal.
Luhnow's "I am not a crook" statement is clearly a lie, but obviously he wants to claim plausible deniability when he looks for another job.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 14 January 2020 04:41 (four years ago) link
Different universe, but in the book I'm reading about the '69 Mets, there's a J.C. Martin-related tangent about how the no-hit White Sox used to a) doctor the field around home plate to deaden balls off the bat, and b) keep all their baseballs in special storage so they'd come out feeling like shot puts.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 14 January 2020 17:00 (four years ago) link
(I think that may turn up in Ball Four somewhere too--it wasn't a secret.)
― clemenza, Tuesday, 14 January 2020 17:01 (four years ago) link
Cora fired.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 15 January 2020 01:36 (four years ago) link
baseball in the 2010s/20s is some bleak shit
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 15 January 2020 02:33 (four years ago) link
life in the 2010s/20s is some bleak shit...the sludge runneth over
cheat lie steal...the american way I suppose
It is still unbelievably hilarious in the wake of all the analytical baseball it still comes down to just f'it we are going to steal some signs.
Really, the perfect way for the city of Enron to get it's champion.
― earlnash, Wednesday, 15 January 2020 03:02 (four years ago) link
It is also totally Pete Rose for him to say, "no big deal we all cheated on this stuff" to "this is worse than me betting on baseball" within like 72 hours.
― earlnash, Wednesday, 15 January 2020 03:05 (four years ago) link
xp i'm with you man
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 15 January 2020 03:16 (four years ago) link
I think these 20s are oiff to a roaring start!
― Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 15 January 2020 04:04 (four years ago) link
a friend of mine notes this is a victory for the union in a weird way. not going after players because it would drag out forever. unlike the PED scandals where management got off scot-free.
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 15 January 2020 13:44 (four years ago) link
Beltran rumored to be stepping down
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 15 January 2020 20:28 (four years ago) link
lol
“Integrity” is a huge franchise buzzword with the Mets - especially with Fred Wilpon - to the point there is legitimate concern for Carlos Beltran’s job at the moment.— Mike Puma (@NYPost_Mets) January 15, 2020
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 15 January 2020 21:28 (four years ago) link
hmm
Jessica Mendoza is the first Mets employee to publicly address the Astros scandal.She said she has a problem with whistleblower Mike Fiers going public and telling the world about the Astros’ cheating. https://t.co/nlGnsx3pTs— Tim Healey (@timbhealey) January 16, 2020
― mookieproof, Thursday, 16 January 2020 15:22 (four years ago) link
what a stunning lack of perspective
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 16 January 2020 15:30 (four years ago) link
Thank you for your service, Carlos Beltran.
― Andy K, Thursday, 16 January 2020 18:11 (four years ago) link
he had a decent run, but a .500 record just isn't going to cut it
― omar little, Thursday, 16 January 2020 18:15 (four years ago) link
he lasted longer than wally backman with the d-backs, at least
― mookieproof, Thursday, 16 January 2020 18:37 (four years ago) link
uh oh
Beltran's niece tweeting about the buzzers, which matches up with what Ive been told from about 5 different parties. pic.twitter.com/zla70bW0Wu— Jomboy (@Jomboy_) January 16, 2020
― mookieproof, Thursday, 16 January 2020 19:24 (four years ago) link
I don't know if this is a topic of conversation or not (and I can't decode the tweet above): will this cast residual doubt on something like Altuve's MVP (and, way down the road, come up when he goes on the HOF ballot)? I wouldn't think so, but it was the hitters who benefited, after all.
― clemenza, Thursday, 16 January 2020 19:48 (four years ago) link
NYC sportstalk radio already fulla Aaron Judge fan bullshit
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 16 January 2020 19:56 (four years ago) link
how is it bullshit
― Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 16 January 2020 20:10 (four years ago) link
if true, wow
I know lip reading is your thing but it looks here like he’s saying “camisa, no camisa” pic.twitter.com/4LZyGUSCm4— Alec Guarino (@AlecGuarinoo) January 16, 2020
― Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 16 January 2020 20:16 (four years ago) link
I mean I can't think of any other explanation for this, baseball players love having their shirts ripped off more than anyone
― frogbs, Thursday, 16 January 2020 21:54 (four years ago) link
Hade bcz NYY fans of all ppl bitching about needing more trophies
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 16 January 2020 22:00 (four years ago) link
What happened was wrong. I said so. But a lot of you people are out of your minds. Beltran’s family told ESPN they don’t know that person. I think one reason why people keep us around here is we don’t lose our shirt for every unsourced whistle in the wind. pic.twitter.com/bH8mScReWR— Richard M. Nixon (@dick_nixon) January 16, 2020
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 16 January 2020 22:57 (four years ago) link
wonder if Altuve's device was made by the same company
i'm at a loss pic.twitter.com/XcFXjGeWDU— Natalie Weiner (@natalieweiner) October 22, 2019
― frogbs, Thursday, 16 January 2020 23:22 (four years ago) link
My understanding is that "Beltran's niece" may be a former player, the name is a joke?
― Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 16 January 2020 23:39 (four years ago) link
yes I don't want a trophy, that's boring
― Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 16 January 2020 23:40 (four years ago) link
*extremely yankees fan voice* wow it’s a shame that the red sox, astros, and mets have all had to fire their managers
― k3vin k., Friday, 17 January 2020 00:14 (four years ago) link
Dave Martinez the only WS winning manager who is still managing the team he won the series with.
― omar little, Friday, 17 January 2020 00:27 (four years ago) link
As a Dodgers fan I want to tap dance on the Astros grave but there's no fuckin way. Everyone is dirty, imo.
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 17 January 2020 00:34 (four years ago) link
It would have been funnier if it was the Cubs.
― earlnash, Friday, 17 January 2020 02:48 (four years ago) link
as they pointed out on the EW podcast, it's "early days" for the Stankeehive to be gloating
plz jesus, let the Stankees be next
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 January 2020 02:53 (four years ago) link
Early days lol, our two biggest rivals just lost their managers and draft picks and have been branded for history as cheatsNot to mention the expansion team across the river now needs a managergloatgloatgloatgloatgloat
― Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 17 January 2020 03:12 (four years ago) link
expand this, Booby
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 January 2020 11:13 (four years ago) link
If you thought this was going away today, you were wrong. Now there’s a call from Congressman Bobby Rush of Illinois for a Congressional Oversight hearing on the MLB cheating scandal. pic.twitter.com/TJlreTHKYr— Levi Weaver (@ThreeTwoEephus) January 17, 2020
― mookieproof, Friday, 17 January 2020 21:54 (four years ago) link
http://cdn.ppomppu.co.kr/zboard/data3/2020/0117/m_20200117085014_ffqbygcv.jpg
― Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 17 January 2020 22:33 (four years ago) link
LaRussa double "cheating" pioneer?
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/28503160/jack-mcdowell-says-tony-la-russa-had-sign-stealing-system-white-sox-80s
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 January 2020 23:00 (four years ago) link
McGwire and Canseco's manager cheated? Damn
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 17 January 2020 23:05 (four years ago) link
ya, that's pathetic.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 23 April 2020 01:55 (four years ago) link
So we're supposed to believe that Cora was a key figure in the Astros' cheating scheme, but somehow wasn't fully aware of the cheating happening in Boston that coincidentally started when he arrived?
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 23 April 2020 06:20 (four years ago) link
he was fully reformed!
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 23 April 2020 12:23 (four years ago) link
https://blogs.fangraphs.com/does-cheating-matter/
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 24 April 2020 15:49 (four years ago) link
https://nypost.com/2020/06/13/yankees-up-in-arms-after-judge-orders-to-unseal-mlb-letter/amp/
The Yankees don't want to release the letter, claiming it would cause "significant reputational injury". That is the most pathetic defense ever, why would anyone give AF about that.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 14 June 2020 16:06 (three years ago) link
I mean seriously, the Astros incurred the stiffest punishment in the history of baseball, but goshdarnit now that people might think a little less of the Yankees organization this has got to stop.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 14 June 2020 16:09 (three years ago) link
well it's a goddamn golden reputation, you must admit
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 14 June 2020 16:23 (three years ago) link
streisanded lol
― ℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Sunday, 14 June 2020 16:34 (three years ago) link
Thought the judge in the url referred to Aaron Judge
― frogbs, Sunday, 14 June 2020 18:30 (three years ago) link