if something needs to be soaked i will run hot water into it but i think our hot water heater is programmed for only on 1-2 hours during the day? and I usually wash things immediately after use. I don't think I have ever done a whole meal of dishes in hot water in my life.
― Yerac, Wednesday, 22 January 2020 20:58 (four years ago) link
as well as heat breaking down oils and fats and whatnot, dish soap works better in warm or hot water than in cold
― don't care didn't ask still clappin (sic), Wednesday, 22 January 2020 21:08 (four years ago) link
xp So the revelation for you was that other people use hot water?
― Josefa, Wednesday, 22 January 2020 21:09 (four years ago) link
nm I missed the whole dishwasher convo upthread
― Josefa, Wednesday, 22 January 2020 21:14 (four years ago) link
yeah. I never knew the majority of people use hot water to wash dishes. I have never had a problem with getting dishes clean at home.
― Yerac, Wednesday, 22 January 2020 21:15 (four years ago) link
It was news to me when my partner told me that hot water was unnecessary and wasteful for washing dishes. I only use it when my hands are too cold otherwise.
― change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 22 January 2020 21:17 (four years ago) link
yeah, my old school comment is thinking about people with dishgloves over a sink of steaming water. I guess this still happens.
― Yerac, Wednesday, 22 January 2020 21:20 (four years ago) link
the dish gloves are to protect your soft, feminine hands from the harsh drying effects of dish detergent iirc
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 22 January 2020 21:24 (four years ago) link
"HOT AS YOU CAN STAND IT!" my mom used to say when I washed the dishes
― Josefa, Wednesday, 22 January 2020 21:25 (four years ago) link
i always assumed the hot water was to kill germs, but according to google you'd have to make the water so hot it'd scald your hands.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 22 January 2020 21:31 (four years ago) link
Yr partner is kinda wrong? Hot water is much more chemically efficient for washing dishes. Heat melts fats, enhances detergent penetration, and causes pans to expand and shed stuck-on bits. Everything is more soluable at high temperatures, except for gasses. Also, hotter pans dry faster (this was a recent discovery for me), which is overall more sanitary.
― rb (soda), Wednesday, 22 January 2020 21:33 (four years ago) link
THere's a real Northwest passage. I thought it was always a myth. Maybe it's just because it took so long to find it and took a loto flives doing so. Fintan O'Toole talks about one of the ships looking for HMS Terror in the mid 19th century finding it. So unless it slipped my mind taht I had heard of it at some previous point that's like last week that I had it confirmed.I thought it had been dismissed as folly and most of what was supposed to be it would be permanently ice locked or something.
― Stevolende, Wednesday, 22 January 2020 21:38 (four years ago) link
Well there’s less ice now innit
― Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Wednesday, 22 January 2020 21:45 (four years ago) link
roald amundsen's ship gjoa was the first actually fully to navigate it, in 1906
it's true that the search for franklin did also reveal where it likely lay, bcz the charting during the search was so extensive -- but the franklin expedition had also in effect charted it, even if they did some of it on foot and the direct documentation is lost. the franklin ships were frozen in bcz they were unlucky and got caught in a hard winter (or actually a sequence of two or three hard winters) which kept them in place until their food began to run low. it's still not clear why -- when the ice later broke up and the ships were remanned a year or two later -- why the franklin ships didn't then carry on and complete the passage, they certainly reached waters which should have allowed them to. possibly lack of manpower, possibly confusion over the best direction to take.
with global warming it's not even close to seasonally ice-locked now i don't think.
― mark s, Wednesday, 22 January 2020 21:52 (four years ago) link
Yes: https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/88597/a-nearly-ice-free-northwest-passage
― Alba, Wednesday, 22 January 2020 22:00 (four years ago) link
Another route has been opened up by melting ice too:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/sep/28/melting-arctic-ice-opens-new-route-from-europe-to-east-asia?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
― Alba, Wednesday, 22 January 2020 22:02 (four years ago) link
see, global warming is good!
― Rhoda from Steubenville (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 22 January 2020 22:03 (four years ago) link
when a door closes a window opens
https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/mag/2007/04/cover/840.jpg?1432054365
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 22 January 2020 22:15 (four years ago) link
lol Gregg EAsterbrook still gets paid to write?
― Rhoda from Steubenville (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 22 January 2020 22:16 (four years ago) link
OMG, I knew that arithmomania was a legendary affliction of vampires (although the term itself is brand spanking new to me) but I only just this minute put two and two together (ah ah ah): Sesame Street's The Count Loves To Count Because Of This Real-Life Vampire Legend
― Dr. Teeth and the Women (Old Lunch), Thursday, 23 January 2020 15:17 (four years ago) link
According to widely believed anecdata it was Kevin Fucking Costner who suggested that Whitney Houston should cover "I Will Always Love You" for that stupid movie
― Okay, you're an ambulance (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 23 January 2020 16:27 (four years ago) link
he both suggested she cover it and it was his idea for it to begin a capella
― bidenfan69420 (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 23 January 2020 23:16 (four years ago) link
costner = music genius
i like him a lot more since seeing him being adored by all on graham norton and his being v odd and uncomfortable but clearly pleased with this and striking me as quite likely a high functioning whatever type as opposed to the archbollix reported all these decades
nb no evidence but its enough for me
― Catherine, Boner of JP Sweeney & Co (darraghmac), Thursday, 23 January 2020 23:35 (four years ago) link
That the entire argument of whether it's champing or chomping at the bit is rendered moot by the fact that bits are designed to be unchampable/unchompable (resting, as they do, in a space between the teeth).
Yes, I'm reading a book about horses, and yes, I'm a twelve-year-old girl. Get over it.
― Dr. Teeth and the Women (Old Lunch), Friday, 24 January 2020 13:03 (four years ago) link
that book about horses in full:
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51PXvnqT3DL._SX381_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg
― chapoquidditch (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 24 January 2020 13:04 (four years ago) link
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=chimping
― mark s, Friday, 24 January 2020 13:06 (four years ago) link
not old enough when i learned that tbrr
― mark s, Friday, 24 January 2020 13:07 (four years ago) link
I was shockingly old when I learned that Old Lunch is a twelve-year-old girl who has been posting here since she was... what, two?
― Okay, you're an ambulance (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 24 January 2020 14:36 (four years ago) link
is there a shockingly young thread
― mark s, Friday, 24 January 2020 14:37 (four years ago) link
I'm posting in utero rn
Mom has really good wifi
― Okay, you're an ambulance (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 24 January 2020 14:38 (four years ago) link
lmao at cold-water dishwashing. some of you have clearly never worked in a kitchen!
― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 24 January 2020 14:41 (four years ago) link
The steam is fierce in a restaurant dish area
― ... that's Traore! (Neanderthal), Friday, 24 January 2020 14:42 (four years ago) link
I was shockingly young when I learned that checkered slacks are most comfortably worn with the waistband pulled to somewhere around the sternum. Also, early bird dinner specials are both a great value and a wonderful opportunity to visit with Walter and Gladys.
― Dr. Teeth and the Women (Old Lunch), Friday, 24 January 2020 14:48 (four years ago) link
Ok, one could rinse mildly soiled dishes or nonstick pans in cold water but for serious stuff, yeah, hot (source: have worked in a kitchen, washing dishes)
― Okay, you're an ambulance (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 24 January 2020 14:57 (four years ago) link
Everyone should experience a stretch of time working in a kitchen, washing dishes. Even if you're currently ensconced in some tenured academic position, I would urge you to take a brief sabbatical (3-6 months) to go work in a kitchen, washing dishes. You will learn a lot about the world, and also yourself. And also about the particulars of water temperature as it relates to the proper cleansing of flatware.
― Dr. Teeth and the Women (Old Lunch), Friday, 24 January 2020 15:34 (four years ago) link
Also you can relieve yourself while washing the dishes and nobody will notice
― ... that's Traore! (Neanderthal), Friday, 24 January 2020 15:38 (four years ago) link
Define 'relieve'.
― pomenitul, Friday, 24 January 2020 15:40 (four years ago) link
Am I about to be shockingly old when I learn that means something other than "urinate"
― rob, Friday, 24 January 2020 15:43 (four years ago) link
That is but one bodily function of many.
― pomenitul, Friday, 24 January 2020 15:44 (four years ago) link
Nothing like taking a mid-wash number three.
― Dr. Teeth and the Women (Old Lunch), Friday, 24 January 2020 15:53 (four years ago) link
This is notable and embarrassing: I just learned that analgesic medication is just anti-pain medication (as in an-algesic) and does *not* refer to anal suppositories (as in anal-gesic).
― ed.b, Friday, 24 January 2020 23:33 (four years ago) link
you've been putting tylenol up your ass?
― bidenfan69420 (jim in vancouver), Friday, 24 January 2020 23:43 (four years ago) link
“topical analgesic” would raise a lot of questions
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 24 January 2020 23:48 (four years ago) link
this was just last week https://m.benzinga.com/article/15144838
― conrad, Saturday, 25 January 2020 00:11 (four years ago) link
That's like confusing diuretic for "diarrhetic"
― ... that's Traore! (Neanderthal), Saturday, 25 January 2020 00:28 (four years ago) link
This may be the right moment to ask: what does "For external use only" mean?
― Alba, Saturday, 25 January 2020 00:28 (four years ago) link
Don't drink it
Like this idiot at a party one time did to the bottle of poppers I offered them
― GK Chessington's World of Adventure (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 January 2020 00:31 (four years ago) link
https://i.ibb.co/7gXN10B/FB-IMG-1579912993024.jpg
― ... that's Traore! (Neanderthal), Saturday, 25 January 2020 00:44 (four years ago) link
I've worked in bars and kitchens! (not solely washing dishes though). But we had a dishwasher or used the three sink method with sanitizer. I am still staying on team not hot water.
― Yerac, Saturday, 25 January 2020 00:49 (four years ago) link