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Hadrian, I suggest you read and think about posts and who wrote them before responding.

that may be good advice, but seems awfully condescending at the same time

xp You know what? That's bullshit.

I wrote that I don't believe the % of oboxious Bernie fans online reflects his support IRL—that in general people are more obnoxious, impatient, and quick to anger online (which by the way...)

???

The policing in here the past coupe weeks is off the fucking charts

I find that @KenzoShibata tweet kind of annoying because it generalizes "the mainstream press" as a single unified thing. Spencer was called a "dapper white nationalist" by Mother Jones. Sanders was tied to antisemitism by a handful of conservation publications, like The National Review and The Federalist. The caricature of Sanders appeared in The Economist. These are all different publications with different political attitudes and goals.

I suppose it's not the first time the POC and queers on this thread have been implicitly accused of misunderstanding the good intentions of the straight male white posters.

The policing in here the past coupe weeks is off the fucking charts

― Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII),

Then maybe you should examine your intentions before you post. I write this as someone who's often admired your posts.

The point of writing in public IS to "police" yourself before going public.

Well I don't know what barometer you're using or how it would be any more accurate than mine.

are you a minority? if not then STFU, this is seriously offensive and you deserve all the pushback seen here so far

xp Alfred. Enough. There's nothing I wrote that remotely mertis any policing—mine or your or anyone else's.

My intentions are solld, I have a good handle on them and know where my heart is.

You DO realize, no offense, that Southern racists used this line too, right? I don't know your heart. I know what you've posted.

The minorities on this thread have told y'all to step back since Friday, and y'all have gotten more obtuse.

Time for thse people to reflect and take a break.

holy shit

when you bump into someone on a sore spot, it isn't necessary to bump it hard for the person to feel pain and react. you may perceive the lightness of the bump given and lack of intention to produce pain; they clearly and quickly perceive the pain. the sorer the spot, the more the reaction.

The policing in here the past coupe weeks is off the fucking charts

yep, nice to see everyone catch up on all the bullshit in the general signifying population here

phaps we can all be called "they" next

"writing in public" gave me a good chuckle. nighty night

It wouldn’t be a lefty thread without completely crumbling to in-fighting

Or snarking by arch white dudes

even "minorities" like me

seeya after the first two victories, ive had enough too

Seamlessly transitioning from Corbynmania to getting absolutely pumped by this. Anyone remember what happened to Corbyn? I don't. I assume he's PM now. https://t.co/L2XEUMGgjd

— Peter (@pickyouredge) January 27, 2020

fuck off with the grousing about "they" as if its use is some kind of dopey ~PC police~ practice rather than respecting people's pronouns, including those of a few people on this board actually.

when was the vote taken?

i'm not grousing

i don't live in that world

Can a mod rename this thread FEEL THE WHITE FRAGILITY

I mean, I literally said “it has been my experience” which means exactly what it says: this has been my experience. People say shit to me that they don’t say to Hadrian. I’m making assumptions about Hadrian based on that difference in experience that may be wrong but that doesn’t change the fact that how I’ve experienced the world is different from how Hadrian has experienced it. It’s also an opinion informed by decades of watching people say “just ignore the trolls” and saying it myself and watching them never go away or stop unless actively confronted and dealt with by moderators. Despite this, none of this makes my opinion more correct than Hadrian’s.

every simple disagreement is a Maoist struggle session now for some reason

^^^ new board description.

I still have no beef with Hadrian and Aimless and would interact with them again, but to read self-avowed Sanders supporters tut-tut me for being condescending after several posters and me cautioned them about their straight white male blinders was, ah, revelatory.

Dan and Alfred OTFM. Bernie receives and promotes endorsement by edgy bro transphobe, which highlights his overall lack of direct attention to certain marginalized communities, viz. people of color and certain queer identities. Various impacted people point out that this tendency is a liability and a significant concern — especially because Bernie’s online supporters tend to mirror (and magnify) — a lack of care for these communities. Unaffected supporters say okay, but no big deal. Affected supporters say yeah, actually. Somebody hides behind a good intentions argument and somebody else claims that everybody’s too damn sensitive and these are ego-driven identity politics, and then other posters seek to minimize (a) the original oversight/obliviousness/slight by Bernie and (b) the impact experienced by affected POC/queer posters. Righteous indignation ensues.

I found out my cousin’s oldest caravanned to Iowa City for the rally last week where Phillip Agnew spoke and is in some of crowd shots. I think this video of Agnew’s talk is quite nice:

https://youtu.be/wPlbTwObmOQ

https://www.businessinsider.com/bernie-sanders-saved-a-woman-from-getting-hit-by-a-car-2018-10

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nice

xpost How patronizing of him

wow he just MANSSUMED she wasn't gawking in the middle of traffic on purpose.....typical brohaviour!!

p sure Whiney is talking about Ebro the morning host from Hot 97 in NYC not Bernie bros

He probably thinks he's a Good Samaritan or something.

that business insider story reads like some sort of engineered parable.

She was walking straight into oncoming traffic when Sen. Bernie Sanders stepped in and saved the day.

"He didn't grab me or anything," she said, but started shouting, "Ma'am! Ma'am!"

"I did not immediately get off the street, even though there was a ton of oncoming traffic, because I was in awe to see him," she said. "He tried to continue to bring me onto the sidewalk and was like, 'Ma'am, you've got to get off of the street! You've got to get off of the street!'"

After a few more seconds of being in "complete awe," Currotto got back to safety thanks to Sanders.

Once she was back on the sidewalk, Currotto asked the Vermont senator if she could take a selfie with him, and he obliged. She said Sanders was quite "concerned" about her standing in the street and was "very, very kind."

"So that's a bit of an embarrassing story for me, because I was being a complete idiot in the middle of oncoming traffic," Currotto said, laughing.

http://i.insider.com/5bb6719a98a1804f675e22c4?width=700&format=jpeg&auto=webp

Bernie saves woman's life by yelling at her
Bernie solves billionaires by yelling at them
Bernie fixes health care by yelling at it
Bernie escapes death's clutches by yelling at death
Bernie lifts off into space by yelling at the ground

"So that's a bit of an embarrassing story for me, because I was being a complete idiot in the middle of oncoming traffic," the Democratic Party said, laughing.

is the democratic party also high as fuck tho

Well, yes.

"He didn't grab me like joe biden or anything," she said

they did go low iirc

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— bat connoisseur (@allahliker) January 28, 2020

posted unread because I like throwing chum in the piranha tank

Jonathan Chait in New York Magazine: "Running Bernie Sanders Against Trump Would Be an Act of Insanity"

operating on a whole new level of disingenuousness

lol fuck chait

fuck william saletan too. brother princes of dweebistan.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/01/why-i-fear-a-moderate-candidate/605608/

^how i break it down to an extent