END TO END BERNERS: The Official Bernie Sanders 2020 Crew thread

he will be, in 2 of those i think

yep you’re right. I guess I’ve just decided based on my feeeelings that Biden ain’t going to make it.

I mean, I definitely hope that after tonight's results come in he becomes the favorite in those states!

can't wait for bernie to win one of our least democratic primary institutions by a couple of delegates tonight and thereby validate the international left most of whom appear to be on this thread

― Mordy, Monday, 3 February 2020 bookmarkflaglink

The international left, it me, showing up on US, Venezuela, France, Chile, aBolivia threads. Full-time job.

I don't think it should be underestimated that Sanders built campaign organizations in all the early states just four years ago, while all the other candidates have had to start from scratch and compete for the activists and volunteers who weren't already emotionally committed to Bernie.

The remnants of Hillary's 2016 campaign do not have any single clear alternative among the 2020 candidates to whom they might shift their allegiance en masse. The HRC coalition seems like it will fragment and be widely dispersed in the early going. That's what has the DNC/establishment/old school centrist types so worried rn. They hoped Biden would blow away the field of moderate-voter-seeking centrists and coalesce the HRC voters. It hasn't happened, yet. The next two months look to be an increasingly fierce dog fight.

very true, we should all probably be thanking Pete for being Biden's biggest siphon.

Spankin’ Bumpers

can't wait for bernie to win

― Mordy, Monday, 3 February 2020 18:59 (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

i stand with mordy

It's also just a fact that nobody has put more campaigning power into the hands of volunteers than the Sanders campaign.

Not to suzy but dozens of my pals & associates from the Momentum training institute, who were Bernie fans in 2016 & spent the last 4 years doing decentralized volunteer-driven issue organizing in Sunrise, Cosecha, IfNotNow and Dissenters, have jumped on board as Bernie staff. Their issue-based work was drawing on lessons of Obama '08 and Sanders '16, but now they're also baking in all the tech, tools, and organizing lessons of their last 3 years of work. Grain of salt here given that I'm talking about colleagues, but I really think all this makes Bernie's the most cutting edge campaign in the race.

I had/regurgitated this thought a while ago

None of the polling actually matters yet is the funny thing bc if his campaign identifies and turns out its voters effectively it’s gonna look a lot different from the polls

— Evan (@silby) December 10, 2019

bernie will have won

NUFF SAID - https://t.co/Qtp3PuUDXE ADMIN pic.twitter.com/5JxXDE3BqD

— da share z0ne (@dasharez0ne) February 3, 2020

gamechanger imo

https://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/iowa-caucus-2020-election-live/254963/

A tweet made the rounds that night purporting to give the poll’s results, and after doing some reporting around this, FiveThirtyEight can confirm that it contains the correct final findings of the unreleased Iowa poll: Sanders 22 percent, Warren 18 percent, Buttigieg 16 percent, Biden 13 percent. Imagine the news cycle that would have been, with national front-runner Biden making such a poor showing in the last, highest-profile poll before the caucuses.

you literally would have loved to have seen it

I am at the caucus holding a sign up and I am STILL GETTING CALLS ON MY PHONE

campaigns, call off the dogs! the doors close in four minutes!

Bernie Sanders

sorry for tweet embed it's just too good imo

Of course it’s in the Klobuchar line https://t.co/6ewYPea7mW

— brutalism apologist (@brutapologist) February 4, 2020

know it's just iowa but i'm gonna be biting my nails refreshing shit over and over for the next 2 hours

this must be what life's been like for people who take the impeachment seriously

dude I am IN THE ROOM

ahhhhh

it was you who spilled the wine wasn't it

Get in the fucking pit https://t.co/h8FtLfRilz

— 💀 kill 💀 tim 💀 faust 💀 (@crulge) February 3, 2020

mh we are with you let's goo

nice

Is it cool to post YouTubes for lols or is that like uncouth these days because I'd like to post Ben Harper's "Burn One Down"

u can do what u like in the bernard thread

its all happening

https://youtu.be/7nXH_6o-X7U

Disaster. You get the idea!

https://imgur.com/a/tiBIUgs

Burn MSNBC to the ground IMO

https://i.imgur.com/IWAFzp6.png

lol i saw nina was trending on twitter and loads of people were furious at her

bloomberg branding himself as an anti-trump superhero seems to be working on people who know nothing else about him

else about him

Bernie is always already having won

https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/molly-crabapple-sanders-iowa/

https://www.thenation.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Scan004-img.jpg

If Sanders does succeed in getting the nomination and his message remains what it has always been since 2016, then the general election will come down to how sick people are of the status quo vs. how frightened people are of the idea of radical change. In the aftermath of 2016, all the punditry said Trump won because people were sick of the status quo. I think 2020 may test that idea very severely.

People i’ve spoken to who are of a boomer, millionaire persuasion are worried about Bernie hurting their bottom line via higher taxes and a stagnant stock market. I feel like another 2008 level crash would be the real threat here, and a Sanders administration would aim for a less volatile economy. Not sure I’m right though.

Good they should be worried

^^^

also, stop listening to these people, who cares what they think, take it all

At the end of the day, I think we need a more equitable society, a reined in military, and a bold plan to stop climate change so I’m with Bernie. But idk—I am also not sure Bernie really does pose a threat to your average retired doctor or lawyer or whatever

Like how much would taxes actually go up

900%

tell them Sanders has personally promised that you get to set all their money on fire

I mean those ppl should generally worry about their prosperity being tied to a system that reliably manufactures major economic crises every couple of decades.

Another point—some of these folks are more afraid of warren.

also good

Warren represents the Traitor to Her Own Class whom the rich in FDR's time also feared.

I feel like Warren is deeply misunderstood by a lot of bernie voters and it kind of bums me out. I’m happy bernie is rising, but she’s been a truly great, brave and principled senator, but left twitter sees her as a milquetoast careerist. Rich people, however, seem to know what’s up and fear her.

she’s more wonkish and speaks in those terms as opposed to a concrete goal

she has lots of plans! all my wonk friends prefer her. I think presenting complete road maps as a strategy is less effective than a stated goal and a willingness to hash it out. not to mention detailed plans make you more likely to end up in over-compromising as you concentrate more on the integrity of your plan than the actual goal

Bottom line, I just do not believe that Warren would give socialists a seat at the table.

Warren understands taxation and the financial system at a deep level. General ignorance of that system has always been the sword and shield of the ultra wealthy, who gladly hire the best talent they can afford to manipulate those systems for their continuing profit. Bernie has a gut level mistrust of the wealthy, but would be more at the mercy of his advisors than Warren would be.

On the whole, I'd say Warren's greatest weakness is not where her heart is, or a lack of good ideas, or the courage to pursue them, but that she doesn't communicate her ideas and their connection to ordinary voters as well as Sanders does. She tries her best, but he is better at it. In terms of "electability", this puts Sanders ahead of her. He also would use the "bully pulpit" more effectively. As far as getting results out of Congress, that depends on factors well outside of the scope of the presidential primaries.