First British national to contract the virus confirmed. Seems likely they attended the conference at the Grand Hyatt in Singapore that's linked to a bunch of the cases.
I'm in Jakarta at the moment and have my temperature taken every time i enter my hotel.
― ShariVari, Friday, 7 February 2020 01:00 (four years ago) link
XP to Outdoor Miner, we found out he's actually rented an AirBnb, so not very much better if he is contagious but at least no contact with anyone until the two weeks have elapsed.
― Maresn3st, Friday, 7 February 2020 12:36 (four years ago) link
This is mildly encouraging:
https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/coronavirus-chinese-data-of-82-cases-are-mild-says-who
― ShariVari, Saturday, 8 February 2020 06:18 (four years ago) link
Seems they're turning Milton Keynes, or at least a bit of it, into the UK's main quarantine facility. Best thing for the place tbh.
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2020/feb/07/coronavirus-britons-evacuated-from-wuhan-to-be-quarantined-in-milton-keynes
― it's after the end of the world (Matt #2), Saturday, 8 February 2020 10:26 (four years ago) link
Foxconn, the electronics company that supplies Apple, has begun manufacturing its own surgical masks, allowing Chinese workers to churn out iPhones uninterrupted as the coronavirus crisis continues.*whistles cheerfully*
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 8 February 2020 10:40 (four years ago) link
Five British nationals have been diagnosed with the coronavirus in France, after staying in the same ski chalet and coming into contact with a person who had been in Singapore, Health Minister Agnes Buzyn said on Saturday.The total number of people infected with the virus in France has now reached 11.Buzyn said the group of people newly infected with the virus were not in a serious condition.They had formed "a cluster, a grouping around one original case" after staying in the same chalet, in the Contamine Monjoie resort in Savoie in eastern France."That original case was brought to our attention last night, it is a British national who had returned from Singapore where he had stayed between January 20 and 23, and he arrived in France on January 24 for four days," Buzyn said.
The total number of people infected with the virus in France has now reached 11.
Buzyn said the group of people newly infected with the virus were not in a serious condition.
They had formed "a cluster, a grouping around one original case" after staying in the same chalet, in the Contamine Monjoie resort in Savoie in eastern France.
"That original case was brought to our attention last night, it is a British national who had returned from Singapore where he had stayed between January 20 and 23, and he arrived in France on January 24 for four days," Buzyn said.
thanks Britain
― juntos pedemos (Euler), Saturday, 8 February 2020 11:03 (four years ago) link
classic brits-abroad behaviour
― Homegrown Georgia speedster Ladd McConkey (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 8 February 2020 11:11 (four years ago) link
if brexit stops this coronimperialism then I'm team boris
― juntos pedemos (Euler), Saturday, 8 February 2020 11:30 (four years ago) link
this guy calmly saying some mildly discouraging things
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALQTdCYGISw
― StanM, Saturday, 8 February 2020 18:17 (four years ago) link
Two bits that jumped out at me: 'we think that the epidemic is roughly doubling in size every five days' and 'we expect the infection levels to peak at the epicenter, Wuhan, in about a month's time'.
― A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 8 February 2020 18:52 (four years ago) link
When I sneeze up in the placeYou better wash yo selfWuhangot you all in checkI got that street fish steezmake you respect deathWuhangot you all in checkAnd you know we come throughto wreck the medical techWuhangot you all in checkThrow your hands up in the air You better disinfectWuhangot you all in check
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 8 February 2020 19:07 (four years ago) link
is that from the Wu Han Clan?
― StanM, Saturday, 8 February 2020 20:24 (four years ago) link
We met up with a woman from Beijing yesterday, we are trying to do business with her. She said that she thought the Chinese government should seal off Hubei and let the disease run its course there. My wife is from Hubei and most of her family are still there, so this didn't go down well. The woman also said that she thought the people of Hubei must be genetically weak and this is the work of nature improving the species. She laughed at my wife for suggesting that if the current leadership cannot handle this they should be replaced, she said without the CCP there would be no new China. Look at the UK, she said, they used to have an empire, now they are weak, and we Chinese are strong. Look, they changed their leader and now they have a worse leader. My wife is sad to hear this, not really surprised, though. This woman is from the 1% in China, from our experience her views are not exactly unusual.
Not sure why I'm writing this here, except that I feel like writing it somewhere.
― Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 9 February 2020 11:12 (four years ago) link
Christ :(
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 9 February 2020 11:13 (four years ago) link
Ime it's not just the 1%ers who buy into that rot. Let it not be said that Chinese state propaganda is ineffective.
― toilet-cleaning brain surgeon (pomenitul), Sunday, 9 February 2020 11:14 (four years ago) link
it's not just the 1%, it's true
― Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 9 February 2020 11:20 (four years ago) link
On a somewhat related note, one of my friends, a Canadian of Chinese descent, just got back from Hong Kong and is reportedly sharing articles over Facebook about how the seasonal flu's mortality rate is supposedly higher in the US than the 2019-nCoV's in China. According to him, disregard for this 'alternative' narrative is yet another instance of Western imperialism.
― toilet-cleaning brain surgeon (pomenitul), Sunday, 9 February 2020 11:21 (four years ago) link
He's also a Jordan Peterson stan and claims to have fully adopted his all-beef diet…
― toilet-cleaning brain surgeon (pomenitul), Sunday, 9 February 2020 11:23 (four years ago) link
of course the real natural selection is for people who decide to live on beef and bleach to own the libs
― Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 9 February 2020 11:25 (four years ago) link
Just heard that more people have now died of this than died of SARS, fwiw.
I was talking to a friend yesterday whose company's HK offices are now all closed. There was also a sad piece on the radio featuring Chinese families resistant to quarantine centers, because while they feel their family members would be nominally cared for (that is, fed), they recognized that sending loved ones to a quarantine center was tantamount to sending them off to die.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 9 February 2020 13:50 (four years ago) link
a friend in LA tells me that at some chinese restaurants there they are taking everyone's temperature when they enter the restaurant and making them wear masks. that's quite overboard. people in downtown SF are wearing masks as well....but they are probably 80% asian. i don't think they're helping with the sinophobia; on the other hand maybe they don't care about that, they just want to make sure they don't get sick.
― akm, Sunday, 9 February 2020 16:45 (four years ago) link
Speculation on what's going on in North Korea other than five dead already
https://www.dailynk.com/english/sources-five-north-koreans-died-coronavirus-infections/https://www.thedailybeast.com/north-koreas-secret-coronavirus-crisis-is-crazy-scary/
― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 10 February 2020 09:03 (four years ago) link
Crazy that that biggest outbreak anywhere outside of China is a cruise ship with 3600 as-yet-uninfected people still aboard. 136 cases confirmed on the Diamond Princess so far. Sounds like a nightmare scenario - especially given the advanced danger with the cruise-ship age demographic.
I'm going to Singapore tomorrow.
― ShariVari, Monday, 10 February 2020 10:59 (four years ago) link
3600 as-yet-uninfected is actually quite reassuring (I mean excluding the obvious possibility of them becoming infected).
― Matt DC, Monday, 10 February 2020 11:32 (four years ago) link
On the Diamond Princess, the passengers/crew were originally told that with every new case, their 14-day quarantine would be reset. The ventilation system between cabins is connected, and people without any close contact with known cases were infected. It was like some preface to a J.G. Ballard novel social breakdown.
The current plan is they'll keep the original quarantine end date of Feb 19 for the whole ship, except for resets “only for close contacts of newly confirmed cases.”
There's still probably a interesting low-budget screenplay in the story...
― Hval's electric toothbrush (Sanpaku), Monday, 10 February 2020 12:24 (four years ago) link
Speaking of cruise ships, some of the strictest health security I've ever experienced was on a cruise ship. Virtually non-stop invitation/instruction to wash or disinfect hands, and an explicit disclaimer that anyone seriously ill will be quarantined. But cruise ships are also a good example of how this stuff often goes down. The cruise lines get a lot of shit for making people sick, but more often than not it's someone on board that was sick to begin with that gets the germ ball rolling. And then things spread and people are stuck.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 10 February 2020 13:07 (four years ago) link
all is well
Nothing can stop them from dancing! Optimistic patients with mild symptoms caused by the #coronavirus dance at a temporary hospital in Wuhan pic.twitter.com/EKY0jyczh4— China Xinhua News (@XHNews) February 10, 2020
― global tetrahedron, Monday, 10 February 2020 17:10 (four years ago) link
https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/b50b698a36ce50bad98d86f5b77c461705c19f9c/24_26_3193_2367/master/3193.jpg?width=1920&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=4769c993f26a16f58258d4cd45481587
― toilet-cleaning brain surgeon (pomenitul), Monday, 10 February 2020 17:13 (four years ago) link
You (literally) make me feel like dancing ...
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 10 February 2020 18:36 (four years ago) link
Interesting that life in Chinese cities far from Wuhan have been affected this much:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Cooking/comments/f0qjm9/what_the_coronavirus_forcing_me_in_lockdowns/
― o. nate, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 01:53 (four years ago) link
Sobering analysis:
GAZETTE: But what is most important for the public to know about this?
LIPSITCH: There’s likely to be a period of widespread transmission in the U.S., and I hope we will avert the kind of chaos that some other places are seeing.
https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2020/02/harvard-expert-says-coronavirus-likely-just-gathering-steam/
― o. nate, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 02:06 (four years ago) link
My wife was on the train yesterday morning, and seated across from her was a woman wearing a face mask. When my wife sneezed, the woman got up and moved.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 02:36 (four years ago) link
I hope that I die to a disease with a more impressive name than COVID-19.
It’s an abbreviation for “coronavirus disease 2019.” The World Health Organization’s director-general explained in a media briefing Tuesday how careful they had to be when picking a moniker: “We had to find a name that did not refer to a geographical location, an animal, an individual or group of people, and which is also pronounceable and related to the disease.”
― Hval's electric toothbrush (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 02:39 (four years ago) link
Shouldn't have a name so close to the best birds IMO
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 02:49 (four years ago) link
Relatively few face masks here in Singapore, compared to Indonesia.
― ShariVari, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 03:56 (four years ago) link
Jesus.
we estimated that the number of infected individuals during early epidemic double every 2.4 days, and the R0 value is likely to be between 4.7 and 6.6
This paper offers a potential reason why COVID-19 (and SARS, which also attaches to lung cells via the ACE2 receptor) is more virulent in Asians. The study clearly needs replication with more tissue donors.
We also noticed that the only Asian donor (male) has a much higher ACE2-expressing cell ratio than white and African American donors (2.50% vs. 0.47% of all cells). This might explain the observation that the new Coronavirus pandemic and previous SARS-Cov pandemic are concentrated in the Asian area.
― Hval's electric toothbrush (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 04:24 (four years ago) link
(which was not peer-reviewed)
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 04:50 (four years ago) link
Rather little of the COVID-19/2019 nCoV literature has gone through the whole peer review process. We're already up to ~540 results on Scholar, mostly preprints.
― forgotten even to the sea (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 05:16 (four years ago) link
More cruise ship drama:
https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/coronavirus-cruise-ship-rejected-by-five-ports-runs-out-of-options
2300 people being scooted around in international waters as nobody is willing to let them dock, food and medicine running out.
― ShariVari, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 05:21 (four years ago) link
I guess it makes a change for wealthy westerners to be the boat people being forced away from ports.
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 05:44 (four years ago) link
this guy sells knockoffs and also ends up describing what he's seeing https://www.fashionrepsfam.ru
― chet san telmo (alomar lines), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 06:11 (four years ago) link
^ spam
― koogs, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 07:19 (four years ago) link
There has been a very big jump in the number of cases within China in the last 24 hours, though that has followed a change to the way in which patients are diagnosed, so it’s not obvious whether things are getting worse or whether they’re just getting better at identifying how bad it was.
Russian containment measures are going about as well as you’d expect:
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2020/02/12/russians-escape-coronavirus-quarantine-cages-a69257
A woman who’d been told she’d tested negative but still had to stay in lockdown for two weeks short-circuited the electro-magnetic lock on her hospital cell and escaped.
― ShariVari, Thursday, 13 February 2020 00:27 (four years ago) link
My understanding is that today's case/death jump is a one-day info dump in which current and past cases and deaths that only had clinical diagnoses (incl. pneumonia in CT scans), but not PCR-test confirmation of the COVAD19 virus (which is bottlenecked), were reclassified.
Drill down to serious/critical cases and there's actually some improvement:
Yesterday - 5,724 serious /1,517 criticalToday - 5,647 serious / 1,437 critical
Not new, but food for thought: 29% of the infected at one Wuhan hospital are medical staff.
― forgotten even to the sea (Sanpaku), Thursday, 13 February 2020 04:59 (four years ago) link
COVAD COVID
― forgotten even to the sea (Sanpaku), Thursday, 13 February 2020 05:00 (four years ago) link
Oh good a coronavirus patient just turned up at my local A&E in an Uber.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 13 February 2020 13:16 (four years ago) link
Good advertising idea for Uber: "We'll take anyone in our cabs'.
― High profile Tom D (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 February 2020 13:20 (four years ago) link
uber: no longer just in the business of killing traditional taxi businesses
― Homegrown Georgia speedster Ladd McConkey (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 13 February 2020 13:33 (four years ago) link
gig economy more like gag, you cough on me. In my opinion
― wee jim o’conor (wins), Thursday, 13 February 2020 13:39 (four years ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/feb/17/coronavirus-live-updates-us-citizens-japan-diamond-princess-cruise-ship-china-wuhan-hubei-cases-death-toll-latest-news
So basically this luxury cruise ship has been turned into a concentration camp, and everyone on board are now internees, left to fight off the fast-moving virus if they're able? A sobering preview of humanity's future, nothing to see here though don't worry.
― the british empire's coming back, back back! (j/k) (Matt #2), Monday, 17 February 2020 10:53 (four years ago) link