END TO END BERNERS: The Official Bernie Sanders 2020 Crew thread

hard disagree, kill it

Whatever bro

Posts very much out of character.

I think they think this piece is opinion rather than a bit?

leftists have wonderful senses of humor, which is why their comedy podcasts are not just bile and wishes for death to their opponents

https://www.theonion.com/bro-youre-a-god-among-bros-1819584402

I’m not sure the onion piece is making fun of bernie bros. I think it might be making fun of the flimsiness of the construct, and the kind of person who would see other people through that lens.

But I don’t know.

there were Bernie bros in 2007?

Sorry the mcsweeneys piece

That our esteemed comrade posted upthread

treesh <3

Yeah, DJP OTM. None of those guys are misogynist trolls with a persecution complex taking down Kamala Harris or whatever.

Also, everyone, including ilxors, used "bro" in a positive way for a while about 10 years ago.

it not only can be reclaimed, in many contexts it never went away

bro- its been waiting for you all along

The piece I posted earlier is possibly satire (so the bit about Pussy Riot is a giveaway rather than an inaccuracy). It was the reaction to the piece more than anything that got me to post it.

I just think it’s bad to conflate something as meaningless like playing ultimate frisbee or liking jam bands with being a misogynist. It makes it seem like being a “good liberal” is more about style—a certain sense of sophistication—then substance.

The way people use “bro” that is. No one needs this caricature. Also there is a secondary level where it is pathologizing male camaraderie when actually male loneliness is the bigger issue—especially if people are sick of men only turning to women for emotional labor.

Good call, bro.

It’s not like being isolated, ironic, above it all and on social media 24/7 is such a great lifestyle. Maybe brooklynites could learn a thing or two from bros.

Dear god no

i know this isn't a popular attitude on ilx

Not only must I constantly update two threads dealing with Bernie Sanders' primary and electoral chances, but I have to deal with the ontological implications of being called a bro.

Too great a burden for any one bro. This is why companionship is important.

Just something to consider, fellas.

a bro with no hope

bropeless

bloody hell treesh, last night you were defending prof Rüdiger Scrotum and now the international brohood - when did you become radicalised?

:p

I wasn’t defending that british guy — I just liked that people were debating architecture. I’m on the other side, obvs

oh sorry for misreading you, it was late

bro is out, homie is in

i could probably use more camaraderie and maybe even more male camaraderie, but i very definitely do not need any bros

fed buildings in the Neobrolonial style

I feel like we had a pretty good division between threads where this one was for getting hyped about bernie and the primary threads were about Serious Discussion but I guess that broke down a bit at some point

Where is the line between a bro and a dude though? I think the bro, as a figure, is a kind of phantasm. The objectionable qualities and ideas people ascribe to “bros” are real, and maybe concentrated in certain social groups, but not always—they’re distributed across the population

xp doctor

These shorthands are just too easy to abuse. Someone days bernie supporters are “bros”—a whole stupid narrative falls into place

that will be my final word on the subject

Bernie supporters are bronies obv

Also, everyone, including ilxors, used "bro" in a positive way for a while about 10 years ago.

You are possibly thinking of 'dude'? 'Bro' naturally exists in tension with 'ho', and ILX has always had a pro-ho constituency.

bro-hos before ho-hos

Captain Save-a-Bro at your service

I am definitely thinking of "bro".

This is quite story:

https://www.elle.com/life-love/a30551979/bernie-sanders-medicare-for-all/

I was busy thinking 'bout bros

Josh Bell is a total bro! Totally awesome and friendly (only met him once but he is a friend of a friend).

― HI DERE, lundi 9 avril 2007 19:03 (twelve years ago) bookmarkflaglink

Edmund Spenser: total noize bro

― remy bean, jeudi 8 novembre 2007 14:55 (twelve years ago) bookmarkflaglink

Andy from SOTL is a total bro

― Mackro Mackro, lundi 21 avril 2008 18:52 (eleven years ago) bookmarkflaglink
Bob Fay is fucking awesome. What a total bro.

― hstencil (hstencil), mercredi 2 mars 2005 13:32 (fourteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink

re: the Kate Willett piece in Elle, I'd heard a bit of her podcast, and heard her mention her reasons for supporting M4A, so I'm curious to read that.

"bro" has all kinds of connotations in my circles, all negative, since god knows when. the best-case version of a "bro" is kinda like "basic dude," which even that isn't really my scene. "bernie bros" also certainly exist and are extremely annoying, although i subscribe to the take that their online presence wayyyyy overstates their real-life importance.

but if we're not talking sociology and political demographic punditry, then we're just talking about slang and ways groups define themselves by who's not in them. not sure there's much to say there. i don't hang out with "bros." when someone's demeanor is described as "bro-y" i know what the person is talking about. in turn, i'm sure the bros could have all kinds of words for me and my friends, and so it goes. obviously no one involved thinks men should not have male friends, and i doubt there are any bros out there for whom the word "bro" has shamed them out of enjoying that camaraderie.

20 ALL TIME ULTIMATE BRO RECORDS.

and i doubt there are any bros out there for whom the word "bro" has shamed them out of enjoying that camaraderie.

― Doctor Casino, Friday, February 7, 2020 10:58 AM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I feel like the term is belittling.

Anyway—of the topic.

Bernie is gonna win

pic.twitter.com/V2bYFFnexD

— law dog, esq. (@ggooooddddoogg) February 7, 2020

The piece I posted earlier is possibly satire (so the bit about Pussy Riot is a giveaway rather than an inaccuracy). It was the reaction to the piece more than anything that got me to post it.

That piece is 100% satire and the response to it is insane.