so not gonna happen

Do you know Pete?

No, please do it! We want to get to the bottom of this! We may feel all empty and purposeless after everything's solved, like someone who's tried to conquer the North Pole for his whole life and finally succeeds in it, but isn't it so with every great journey? There'll be new adventures ahead of us still!

Diehl comes across as a bit of two-dimensional jerk, albeit one with a certain jock-type charisma that attracts some girls. If he wanted to, Diehl could probably set up a threesome with the two girls. Wayne is painfully lacking in any charsima, jock-type or otherwise. He seems so different from Diehl that I'm guessing they're not friends, but that someone else invited Wayne to the party, as suggested up-thread.

I'm also guessing that Wayne is a bit more of an interesting character than Diehl and co. He's not shown in his best light at the Diehl party, because he's a fish out of water, feeling awkward and uncomfortable. He looks like a total loser but he's just more of a quiet, introspective type. The evidence for the prosecution is of course the Hooters t-shirt. But that could be a)not reflecting his real character but an attempt to ingratiate himself into the redneck culture in which he finds himself, or b)he might have a weekend kitchen job at Hooters. Unlike Diehl, Wayne hasn't gone straight from school into the army. He's probably studying at a nearby college. I think he might even have a girlfriend, although she's going to be a bit plainer and weightier than the two girls in the source photo.

Can I just say I was feeling like total shit yesterday - had a terrible cold - could not function on any level - accept to sit wrapped in a blanket at the computer staring like a fool at the screen - but this thread totally cured me. To-day I am feeling much better...I thank you all.

And, back in 1981 (different bedroom/different t-shirt (probably iron Maiden) but same sitting on the bed feeling totally out of it) I WAS Wayne (Tommy), and it all turned out good in the end.

Wayne looks like Diehl's inferior, since Diehl is this tall, rangy guy who clearly appeals to the women of his entourage. Diehl is basically a smalltown jock. But Diehl's education stopped at high school, and since coming back cashed-up from Iraq, he's been unemployed and, judging from his myspace profile, in no hurry to get a job either ("I dont like to work so I dont"). His prospects aren't really too great. His best friend Tommy Turnball also never went to college and works as a labourer. Turnball describes his life thusly: "I usually just do the same shit every day, work, drink, sleep, repeat." As for intellectual stimulus, he boasts that "I have actually read a book I didn't have to: Black Hawk Down." We're talking about guys with very narrow horizons here. And Diehl's tour of duty in Iraq probably only narrowed his further. He'll probably never escape his home town and will end up in some dead-end job, still drinking with his pal Tommy and mooning for the camera.

Wayne, on the other hand, looks like a college kid to me. He's doing computer studies or something. He may not look too great now, but in ten years' time, he's going to be doing a lot better than Diehl.

evidence.
http://diehliniraq.com/v-web/gallery/albums/Diehls-Party/awkward.sized.jpg
probably just made some blokeish comments "i like me hooters i do" or "fancy a threesome laaadies?" and the girls turn away in disgust, see the way laurel did a "Tim from The Office"'s face, like when keith the accountant bloke talks about giving girls orgasms.

reference
http://homepage.mac.com/elliottday/theoffice/gallery1/keithtimroom.jpg

well, what do you know?

i rest my case

Several of Diehl's friends are studying at Delaware County Community College right now (which is how they met Jenna and Danielle and Ashlee, who are a couple years younger and not graduates of Upper Darby Senior High School) -- so this wouldn't be atypical.

This photo brings out the Wayne's vulnerability. Come on, he doesn't look boorish at all here:

Stalkerdom is when you enter into someone else's world uninvited. Like if killy were to actually go and show this picture - or any of the related others - to someone at the KOP Hooters or West Chester to see if we could get some more info.

As it is, any of the info we've gathered has simply been by taking advantage of the information THEY posted in the PUBLIC domain about themselves. We've just had a bit more fun than usual b/c we have nothing better to do during the day.

I find nothing inherently wrong about this. I find it quite amusing.

he was once in love with a girl, it was her sweet 13
her papa offered him cash to leave, so he'd never be seen
our hero took the money, and had these words to tell
"well ah'm taking yaah money, but ah'm taking yaah girl as well!"

the story somehow turned, into something about his hand
as was talking his hand would suddenly extend
over the face of this girl, who was terrified to bits
to this date i still don't know the reason for any of it

as he was telling the story, a man had chipped his tooth
when our hero saw this, he had his shirt removed
revealing on his belly, as smooth and bright as the moon
"well i've been injured as well, here's a gunshot wound!"

http://diehliniraq.com/v-web/gallery/Diehls-Party/johnfirco_loftus

I don't know it counts as crazy psycho stalkerish when all you're doing is looking at a couple of myspace profiles or whatever that people have put on the Internet in full knowledge that anyone can access them.

to be fair this argument doesn't really work - they most probably putting them on the Internet with the intention that random people would access their details and collate all their websites together etc.

like you don't walk down the street thinking ooooh people can take photographs of me and follow me and work out where i live and work etc, i mean they CAN (have the means to) do it, but it doesn't mean it's not stalking!

but stalking for fun is fun!

Dude's just had a huge bong, that's about 5 minutes before the wiped out on the floor shot.

he definitely is totally fucking stoned though.

We're engaging in a perfectly legit, free form of entertainment. Its no biggie.

It's very clear that Wayne is a stoner dude that hangs out at Hooters and can easily be talked into buying beer for a bunch of underage kids as long as he leer at the ladies (and possibly nintendo.)

http://diehliniraq.com/v-web/bulletin/bb/viewtopic.php?t=11&view=next&sid=b52746c827ded6a2e3daa6f9f188d029

but we have already, haven't we ?

as for the threesome, you might be on something here... but on the other hand, she shows some jealousy ("only in her dreams cause ur my man") so that doesn't fit too well with a threesome.
maybe the surprise was a lesbian thing between her and laurel ?
(deep exegesis !)

Are you joking?!

I have been to this party, and hung with these dudes: they are a perfect cross section of a lot of the guys I knew in HS. If they are anything like my friend N__, say, then their music taste will be something like:

Zep
Floyd
Beatles
Pantera
Allman Bros.
Dave Matthews
NOT Phish
Biggy
Metallica
Pick one shitty singer/songwriter (for the LADIEZ)

Also: Sublime. How could I forget?!?!