END TO END BERNERS: The Official Bernie Sanders 2020 Crew thread

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i went through my whole childhood hearing my dad call innocuous midwestern university towns havens for 'communists', so, thanks for debasing that one, pops

j., Monday, 24 February 2020 13:48 (four years ago) link

That video triggered an unironic rendition of 'America, Fuck Yeah!' in my head. Although it's probably more than a little utopian to hope that the broader establishment will follow that one dude's lead re: curiosity and self-reflection.

Expart of Languidge (Old Lunch), Monday, 24 February 2020 13:50 (four years ago) link

xxpost I don't have anything more than anecdotal data points, but my mom (for example), went hard Democrat post-Trump - she used to consider herself an "independent" - and now she is firmly "blue no matter who." Still, talking to her she does seem to have some misgivings with the term "socialist," which ... yeah, she's borne the brunt of propaganda for *decades,* it takes a bit to get past that, despite being very smart and very educated. She told me she has friends who are anti-Trump but *also* anti-Sanders, threatening to stay home and not vote if he gets the nomination, and she apparently pushed back at them, reminding them that getting rid of Trump remains the top priority. Hopefully she doesn't let them get away with inaction.

I have another friend who is a financial advisor, and she has been telling clients, per the guidance of managers above her, that Sanders *or* Warren getting elected is predicted to knock 30% off the stock market. For what that's worth (literally and figuratively). So, yeah,

The challenge for the Sanders campaign will be fighting the perception that he's too big a risk in a time of a "healthy economic climate"; it's up to him and the campaign to show that those measures don't mean squat for most people.

That Vox piece above did an OK job explaining that Sanders is ultimately just another politician who behaves like normal politicians, but that's a double edged sword. Sanders generates a lot of energy from his occasional bomb throwing rhetoric, so it's a risk to amplify the more mundane aspects of his political record. If he makes himself appear *less* radical, does it cost him support? If he gets the nom, will he attempt at all to mainstream? Does he need to? I have no idea. As always it all comes down to turnout, and that, historically, has been erratic.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 24 February 2020 14:02 (four years ago) link

So let us imagine President Sanders, whose cheering crowds holler, “Lock them all up!” Let’s imagine an attorney general specifically tasked with prosecuting (not merely investigating) every senior member of the Trump administration. https://t.co/O576o1Ws13

— Jennifer Rubin (@JRubinBlogger) February 24, 2020

i'm imagining it

it sounds fuckin' lit tbh

Generous Grant for Stepladder Creamery (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 24 February 2020 15:43 (four years ago) link

lol @ the responses

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 24 February 2020 15:46 (four years ago) link

Having ceded executive power and, in effect, erased the impeachment clause, there may be little or no brake on what a Sanders administration might do. And, in one sense, who could blame the left for adopting the playbook the right wrote?

I do not know if a Sanders administration would engage in such actions, but if it is as radical as Republicans imagine, they should expect nothing less. Perhaps then it will dawn on them that setting fire to our institutions and eradicating accountability for the president was a fatal error — fatal to democracy and to the rule of law. By then, of course, it will be too late.

https://pics.me.me/hyde-of-this-site-screaminbutcalm-me-sowing-haha-fuck-veah-45288711.png

Generous Grant for Stepladder Creamery (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 24 February 2020 15:48 (four years ago) link

But how will we ever reconcile as a country! Wither civility!?!

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 24 February 2020 15:51 (four years ago) link

The current president has been nothing but civil, and see how successfully he unified his base? We need a uniter, not a divider!

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 24 February 2020 15:52 (four years ago) link

The room is on fire. In one corner is a living child, in the other is a pile of norms. Which do you choose to save?

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 24 February 2020 16:01 (four years ago) link

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/aa/Norm_Peterson_Cheers_Motion_Picture.png

"Nice knowing you ... "

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 24 February 2020 16:03 (four years ago) link

I like how the punditry acknowledges that the Republicans have destroyed government institutions and trampled on the US Constitution and this has created a horrifyingly dangerous situation for the nation as a whole... from an imaginary Sanders administration!

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 24 February 2020 17:52 (four years ago) link

in effect, erased the impeachment clause just as an side, this is a bad take, and one I hear from liberals a lot as well. The impeachment clause is vague and subjective. Failing to impeach a president does not "erase the impeachment clause." There is no mandatory impeachment in the Constitution.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 24 February 2020 18:10 (four years ago) link

it sounds fuckin' lit tbh

otm

lol @ the responses

otm

Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Monday, 24 February 2020 18:14 (four years ago) link

Jeet Heer's latest is a good companion to the Anand Giridharadas video, framing MSNBC in the Trump era as an "ancien regime resistance" that united centrist liberals and Never Trumpers, and which is now in danger of collapse: https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/msnbc-sanders-freak-out

jaymc, Monday, 24 February 2020 18:26 (four years ago) link

Bernie winning is basically 9/11pic.twitter.com/picXYeSpTB

— Samuel D. Finkelstein II (@CANCEL_SAM) February 24, 2020

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Monday, 24 February 2020 20:36 (four years ago) link

Won't somebody please think of the airline owners?!

Expart of Languidge (Old Lunch), Monday, 24 February 2020 20:43 (four years ago) link

it really is happening

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 24 February 2020 21:19 (four years ago) link

we really do live in a society after all

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 24 February 2020 21:19 (four years ago) link

Bernie has some interesting views on Castro, but what does he think of other famous despots?
We don't know, but here are some guesses:#BernieOnDespots https://t.co/l7isoNAdPd

— Team Bloomberg (@Mike2020) February 24, 2020

frikkin YIKES

gbx, Monday, 24 February 2020 21:51 (four years ago) link

that thread is reallllll embarrassing

gbx, Monday, 24 February 2020 21:51 (four years ago) link

mike you’re posting cringe bro

Generous Grant for Stepladder Creamery (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 24 February 2020 21:55 (four years ago) link

Homophobia AND pointless line breaks, what a thread

jmm, Monday, 24 February 2020 21:58 (four years ago) link

this is like a single poster joke thread

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 24 February 2020 22:00 (four years ago) link

Okay, I might have to get back on Twitter just to follow that account. It's like watching a livecam of someone vandalizing their asshole CEO's mansion.

Expart of Languidge (Old Lunch), Monday, 24 February 2020 22:19 (four years ago) link

not endearing himself to the LGBTQ demo lately

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Monday, 24 February 2020 22:20 (four years ago) link

gonna be a crazy week 💛💛 pic.twitter.com/n7hWeSF2Ui

— julian powell (@julianmpowell) February 23, 2020

xyzzzz__, Monday, 24 February 2020 22:41 (four years ago) link

Need a We Are The World track with all the Bernie endorsers

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Monday, 24 February 2020 22:48 (four years ago) link

The point of that thread isn't to craft a single joke, it's to make sure people hear from their older relatives that Bernie once praised Idi Amin or whatever.

Chris L, Monday, 24 February 2020 22:50 (four years ago) link

sorry your grandpa lost his slaves miami cubans but people here need some help

— raandy (@randygdub) February 24, 2020

xyzzzz__, Monday, 24 February 2020 23:04 (four years ago) link

eh that's a dumb tweet

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 24 February 2020 23:24 (four years ago) link

when you have people complaining that their grandfather owned an entire town and now his house is a library it's hard to work up tears

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Monday, 24 February 2020 23:26 (four years ago) link

xyz's specialty from what I hear
xp

Miami weisse (WmC), Monday, 24 February 2020 23:28 (four years ago) link

when you have people who fled who were the class whom Sanders most want to woo and who played by the United States' goddamn rules in Cuba and died or were imprisoned anyway, I'll give you a hankie.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 24 February 2020 23:29 (four years ago) link

"Cuba" reduces people on every gradation on the spectrum into fools, hence my avoiding it. All I'll say is that it wasn't merely burghers and oligarchs who left.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 24 February 2020 23:31 (four years ago) link

There's nothing Sanders could do to woo them in meaningful numbers, so it's not like it matters.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Monday, 24 February 2020 23:36 (four years ago) link

idk that’s overly reductive to me.

majority whip, majority nae nae (m bison), Monday, 24 February 2020 23:41 (four years ago) link

and also idk i would probably listen to alfred on this topic

majority whip, majority nae nae (m bison), Monday, 24 February 2020 23:42 (four years ago) link

As a voting group Florida Cubans are only slightly less Republican than white evangelicals. In a landslide midterm they voted for Ron DeSantis 2:1 and I don't think it's because Andrew Gillum was sending out fliers praising Che.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Monday, 24 February 2020 23:44 (four years ago) link

Ironically, another reason Bernie is probably going to lose Florida is old retired Jews. But, as I previously noted, Hillary also lost Florida and I don't think there's a candidate who could win it but not do worse everywhere else.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 24 February 2020 23:46 (four years ago) link

Florida has voted for a non-incumbent Democrat once in the last 40 years, it should maybe not be a linchpin regardless.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Monday, 24 February 2020 23:49 (four years ago) link

Calm down Texas is purple now or something

℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Monday, 24 February 2020 23:50 (four years ago) link

President Obama: “I said this to President Castro...you've made great progress in educating young people....Medical care, the life expectancy of Cubans is equivalent to the United States...That's a huge achievement. They should be congratulated."pic.twitter.com/3HTJw2Ek08 https://t.co/XWTneqIFHd

— Waleed Shahid (@_waleedshahid) February 24, 2020

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Monday, 24 February 2020 23:52 (four years ago) link

dear Booty, if you were a POTUS who didn't suck up to dictators, youd be the first in 120 years

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 01:03 (four years ago) link

I hope to write a post about South Florida and its ethnic paradoxes soon.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 01:05 (four years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ERlLRKvXYAAC1mT?format=jpg&name=large

From their tweets to God's ears

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 01:28 (four years ago) link

The private Twitter account of a newly promoted campaign staffer indicates that despite his condemnation of online harassment, some of Bernie Sanders’ most toxic support is coming from inside the house.

My latest: https://t.co/PRmITbU4zk

— Scott Bixby (@scottbix) February 25, 2020

get this guy a pulitzer stat

k3vin k., Tuesday, 25 February 2020 06:36 (four years ago) link

😩 CHRIS MATTHEWS IS NOT DOING WELL 😩#ChrisMatthews final recorded message after the #Bernie2020 revolution defeats #msnbc ... leaked to Ep41 of @TheUnderculture! pic.twitter.com/pBNufzPLRP

— James Adomian (@JAdomian) February 23, 2020

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 07:05 (four years ago) link

i don't want to get all south park but every person involved in this scott bixby thing on both sides are acting incredibly annoying. dumbest day on twitter in a long time

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 14:53 (four years ago) link

I for one appreciate the courageous journalism required to publish private social media content

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 15:04 (four years ago) link

these people with locked accounts...damn!!! you just know theyre hiding all the good posts in there

— wint (@dril) November 2, 2015

ciderpress, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 15:26 (four years ago) link


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