How will you vote in the Labour Leadership election?

Also depends on the level of pure idiocy in the Parliamentary party obviously.

The winner of this contest will not be challenged.

yeah, because starmer will win.

(rlb would be challenged)

RLB would bring open selection, which is a gun to every potential coup plotter's head, and she strikes as far more ruthless than Corbyn.

At this stage I'm fairly convinced that open selection will just lead to most CLPs reselecting the incumbent and even if they do there's no guarantee it'll favour the left candidates. The wider appetite for it appears fairly limited.

CLPs don't seem quite as left as a lot of people here think/hope they are.

absolutely. My centrist da fits right in at his.

if there was open selection more ppl would be inclined to join, there are quite a few CLPs where the incumbent wouldn't win and lots more where a contest would be a good thing. long term it would lead to more local candidates

I think Starmer will prove to be a real *enigma*. Soon people will start noticing he is soft as shit against pressure from the right of the party and constantly capitulates to them in milliseconds. But then proves to be quite a stubborn tough-minded bullshitting lawyer cunt against pressure from the left of the party. It will become almost like "we could do with some principled Corbyn type figure here, because this phoney doing a soft-left routine is killing us!"

quote me on this in a year I know I'm right.

how did it come from Corbyn to a fucking worthless cockroach melt in a suit with Luke fucking Akehurst whispering sweet nothings in his ears. I'm sorry but I'm still in angry and grieving stage.

This is a serious concern. Everyone around Starmer must be searched for hair removal creams immediately, they could be embittered Stalinists in disguise. https://t.co/QFn2Zx53OU

— Simon Hedges (@Orwell_Fan) February 24, 2020

CLPs don't seem quite as left as a lot of people here think/hope they are.

― Load up your rubber wallets (Tom D.), Monday, 24 February 2020 bookmarkflaglink

absolutely. My centrist da fits right in at his.

― frederik b. godt (jim in vancouver), Monday, 24 February 2020 bookmarkflaglink

Lol I know CLPs are full of mummy and daddy. That's why Starmer is winning. Unity is pure family talk.

At this stage I'm fairly convinced that open selection will just lead to most CLPs reselecting the incumbent and even if they do there's no guarantee it'll favour the left candidates. The wider appetite for it appears fairly limited.

― Matt DC, Monday, 24 February 2020 bookmarkflaglink

Open selection would return the sitting MP in 95% of cases. But what I am saying is that should RLB win MPs going for the shenanigans we saw during Corbyn's time would often not go down well at CLP level, and we have seen a lot of tension at some CLPs.

Has anyone got their ballot yet?

I was wondering about that. not me, ftr.

not yet, but .. lol.. just found out all my Labour emails have been going into junk for months. I got an e-mail yesterday entitled "Your Ballot" which actually wasn't my ballot, but told me to chill and there is plenty of time ..to melt!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ERnRMoeWoAc3TX3?format=jpg&name=large

Ian "gets it" apparently, what a load of fucking ringing endorsements - the kind guaranteed to consign you to the ash heap of labour Party history!

horny blair: "ian murray can get it"

I have voted.

Horny Dunty: “Tony Blair can get it”

xp ffs and I’m not going to bother coming home if you voted Burgon

Guess we’re divorced now

Yep.

Horny Dunty famously said every PM needs a Willie!

fwiw my ballot ended up as:

1. RLB
2. Starmer

Only as insurance against the nightmare scenario of RLB being knocked out in the first round and Nandy getting in on second prefs.

Deputy was:

1. Burgon
2. Butler
3. Khan
4. Rayner

Nothing much to pick between 3. and 4. other than my inherent bias towards ppl called Khan.

If Starmer get's in on second prefs I'm blaming it all on you!

The only way that happens is if RLB gets booted in the first round, so fingers crossed it doesn’t come to that.

I'm putting a write in nom for Nandy's dad as my second pref

a lot of my depression is based on the melty uselessness of the CLP's and that jan 18th YouGov poll on the members. I keep hoping I'm going to be pleasantly surprised in april, but it's a forlorn hope - this is going to be a fucking Starmer cakewalk and I knows it.

EXCLUSIVE: Deputy leadership hopeful Richard Burgon wants to set up a 'Tony Benn University of Political Education' as he says Labour has "failed miserably in relation to political education in the last few years" – and much more in our new interview: https://t.co/zlHOu4tDY0

— LabourList (@LabourList) February 25, 2020

lol what a fucking awful idea!

Guess we’re divorced now

Don't worry no-one will blame you, we all know where the blame lies.

And how will you be voting?

I'm politically homeless.

We found the Nandy/Murray, lads

think Tom might be politically lost and should try a course at the Tony Benn University of Political Re-education, Hero of Socialist Labour medal holder, honorary professor Chris Williamson will put him on the correct path!

I asked Lisa Nandy if it was ethical that her campaign has allegedly received funding from corporate types in energy and private water companies tonight at #GuardianLive - she said she didn’t know if it had or not https://t.co/bYzl2AqyQh

— Beth Redmond (@redbethmond) February 25, 2020

there is a lot of talk that Stalemer has spent an unprecedented million on his campaign without any transparency of whose pocket he's in. Most of that spend could be accounted for with that mailshot with grotesque face image and hd pimple that went straight into the recycle bin.

I never received any RLB mail.

starmer has received money from unison, ppl have quit over it and lots more are v unhappy

The NEC election looks a total shambles. Five of the nominees have been suspended under a very opaque disciplinary process - two have been cleared, three are still under investigation aiui.

Not read any reports on unison unrest, glad to hear there is some.

I'm politically homeless.

― Load up your rubber wallets (Tom D.), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 bookmarkflaglink

For someone not in Lab you seem to know a lot about CLPs

I presume these CLP meetings are mainly attended by middle aged/middle class white men, that's 90% of the knowledge there!

My dog is dead and he’s still barking?

”You have got to get back to the grassroots. She’s also not afraid to say that she disagrees with people in the shadow cabinet like Diane Abbott,” said Proctor. At the hustings, Nandy claimed the shadow home secretary had said that Brexit voters were either “too stupid to read the question” or “xenophobic”.

especially as Thornberry turned up at the Labour conference, practically wearing blue face paint.

Look at whose parliamentary reception I stumbled upon today...!

I wonder if they were lobbying for working people, or for their super-rich shareholders? 🤔 pic.twitter.com/Z9iyrC0E6x

— Zarah Sultana MP (@zarahsultana) February 25, 2020

Post leadership this will be a Zarah Sultana fan thread like the Berners sorry I don't make the rules.

Campbell has been dissing her maiden speech, couldn't really ask for a better seal of approval.

the only positive I can take from the Labour Party is that some of the younger intake seem pretty cool and are pissing off all the right people and are too angry to melt.

She seems to have the attitude, force of personality and awareness. Haven't seen her under fire yet but promising early signs

She’s been under fire since before she was elected! Some NUS grudgeholder had screenshots of tweets made and deleted years ago under an account that doesn’t exist anymore just waiting to be passed to the press, which they did, and the party was under pressure to deselect her.