END TO END BERNERS: The Official Bernie Sanders 2020 Crew thread

"Cuba" reduces people on every gradation on the spectrum into fools, hence my avoiding it. All I'll say is that it wasn't merely burghers and oligarchs who left.

There's nothing Sanders could do to woo them in meaningful numbers, so it's not like it matters.

idk that’s overly reductive to me.

and also idk i would probably listen to alfred on this topic

As a voting group Florida Cubans are only slightly less Republican than white evangelicals. In a landslide midterm they voted for Ron DeSantis 2:1 and I don't think it's because Andrew Gillum was sending out fliers praising Che.

Ironically, another reason Bernie is probably going to lose Florida is old retired Jews. But, as I previously noted, Hillary also lost Florida and I don't think there's a candidate who could win it but not do worse everywhere else.

Florida has voted for a non-incumbent Democrat once in the last 40 years, it should maybe not be a linchpin regardless.

Calm down Texas is purple now or something

President Obama: “I said this to President Castro...you've made great progress in educating young people....Medical care, the life expectancy of Cubans is equivalent to the United States...That's a huge achievement. They should be congratulated."pic.twitter.com/3HTJw2Ek08 https://t.co/XWTneqIFHd

— Waleed Shahid (@_waleedshahid) February 24, 2020

dear Booty, if you were a POTUS who didn't suck up to dictators, youd be the first in 120 years

I hope to write a post about South Florida and its ethnic paradoxes soon.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ERlLRKvXYAAC1mT?format=jpg&name=large

From their tweets to God's ears

The private Twitter account of a newly promoted campaign staffer indicates that despite his condemnation of online harassment, some of Bernie Sanders’ most toxic support is coming from inside the house.

My latest: https://t.co/PRmITbU4zk

— Scott Bixby (@scottbix) February 25, 2020

get this guy a pulitzer stat

😩 CHRIS MATTHEWS IS NOT DOING WELL 😩#ChrisMatthews final recorded message after the #Bernie2020 revolution defeats #msnbc ... leaked to Ep41 of @TheUnderculture! pic.twitter.com/pBNufzPLRP

— James Adomian (@JAdomian) February 23, 2020

i don't want to get all south park but every person involved in this scott bixby thing on both sides are acting incredibly annoying. dumbest day on twitter in a long time

I for one appreciate the courageous journalism required to publish private social media content

these people with locked accounts...damn!!! you just know theyre hiding all the good posts in there

— wint (@dril) November 2, 2015

This is the first I'm hearing about this staffer but uh...this is pretty much a non-story, yeah? Dude was exposed, dude was fired. If anyone is still saying anything beyond congratulating the Sanders campaign for not dithering and equivocating, then idgi.

so the staffer had a locked account? and the Daily Beast dude found a way in? You know, I wonder if anyone's thought of getting into the campaign's private emails so we could know what kind of shit was being talked? It would be very illuminating.

it absolutely will come up at the debate tonight

This and Fidel Castro.

can Bernie say "let's go to the videotape" and show the clip of Obama praising Cuban literacy and life expectancy?

Let's dispel once and for all with this fiction that Barack Obama doesn't know what he's doing

I believe you mean 'dispel with' (takes almost imperceptibly-quick water swig).

tonight's gonna be a nightmare

switching my vote to whoever asks bloomberg why he has infinite money and can't afford basic security for his campaign offices

maybe I should be worried about this but I'm really not

fuuny, im tempted to watch this one for Mr Burns' live autopsy

maybe I should be worried about this but I'm really not

― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Tuesday, February 25, 2020 9:47 AM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

otm

xpost I think you mean Sideshow Bob (pictured below: Bloomberg over the past seven days)

https://gifimage.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/sideshow-bob-rakes-gif-1.gif

Also, am I correct in my understanding that Bloomberg isn't on the SC ballot? Why is he allowed to participate in this shit again?

because strategery

One of the main theories of the case for Sanders I’ve bought into is by organizing disenfranchised communities into mass movements in the same way labor did in the 1930s, you can redistribute the power from the federal government, which otherwise will continue to look like this. https://t.co/on9QHDDysg

— Peter Labuza (@labuzamovies) February 24, 2020

this is a bit worrying

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/2/25/21152538/bernie-sanders-electability-president-moderates-data

I guess my counterargument would be they used this same argument against Trump in 2016 and it turned out the group of Republican voters who would sit out if it was Trump (or "hold their nose and vote for Hillary") wound up being like, 5 people

liberals are the creme de la creme of wrecking

If Bloomberg comes out against naked toddlers on beaches, he's going to lose the West Coast and all the parents of kids named "Ocean." They are legion and they vote. https://t.co/mSUw3PWXv6

— Naomi Klein (@NaomiAKlein) February 25, 2020

If the GOP is smart they won't focus on personal attacks but just keep repeating that the market will crash if Sanders is elected.

I have a very hard time believing that the Republicans who say they’d vote for a more moderate candidate over Trump would actually do so when the election comes.

liberals are the creme de la creme of wrecking

it's why everyone needs a workers' party, baby

fwiw though I do think Bernie would be the guy Trump would have the most trouble with; he's not "establishment", he's not boring, he doesn't have ties to the Clintons, not to mention that Trump, the guy who promises everything under the sun, is gonna have difficulty with the "better things aren't possible" line

Pres Keyes is right about the line they should use, let's not tell them, tho

too late

drat!!!

Give Joe Walsh credit for consistency:

This isn’t complicated. “Never Trump,” “never-Trump” or, if you prefer, #NeverTrump has always been a straightforward concept — the word “never” is right there in the name. But with Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) moving ahead of the pack as the clear front-runner in this year’s Democratic presidential primaries, some of my Republican and ex-Republican brethren have started implying that what never-Trump actually meant was something more like: fingers-crossed-I-really-really-hope-not-Trump-but-I-guess-sometimes-Trump if Democrats wind up nominating a self-described democratic socialist. But that’s not how this works.

I mean, I get it. They’re chafing at the thought of voting for a guy who calls his movement a “political revolution,” talks nonstop about Medicare-for-All (but talks a lot less about how he’ll pay for it) and who said “it’s unfair to simply say everything is bad” about Fidel Castro — not in a stray comment back in his radical heyday, but in a “60 Minutes” interview earlier this week. And I sympathize: My congressional career was short-lived, but I came in with the original tea party wave. If it were up to me, Sanders isn’t the guy I’d put in charge.

But when I finally came around to saying, “never Trump,” I meant it. And if you’re a Republican who claimed the never-Trump label as a badge of honor during the last few years, to prove to the world that you’re a principled conservative, and not a Trump dupe, then you should have meant it, too.

for those who can't read it:

In 2016, sadly, I supported Trump. I freely admit that I’m a second-wave never-Trumper. But once I got here, it was always my plan to stay. Because, for me, the ways in which Trump threatens this country go beyond left-right ideology. He lies constantly. He grants pardons to toadies. He conflates America’s financial interests with his own. He uses his bully pulpit to air a never-ending, year-round list of Festivus grievances.

He surrounds himself with lackeys and purges staff who won’t do his bidding. He’s an authoritarian who once said, with a straight face, “I have an Article II, where I have the right to do whatever I want.” That’s a bigger threat to America than free college, a $15-per-hour minimum wage and Glass-Steagall part deux. Yes, I’m a fiscal conservative who still worries about the national debt. But not as much as I worry about Trump wrecking my country.

But when I finally came around to saying, “never Trump,” I meant it. And if you’re a Republican who claimed the never-Trump label as a badge of honor during the last few years, to prove to the world that you’re a principled conservative, and not a Trump dupe, then you should have meant it, too.

Narrator: ...

If we win I'll send Joe Walsh a copy of Prison Notebooks.

If Bernie wrote all that bad shit 50 years ago, imagine what he wrote 100 years ago.

talks nonstop about Medicare-for-All (but talks a lot less about how he’ll pay for it)

maybe we can use a portion of the money we save from eliminating the significantly more expensive healthcare plans we have now

Yes, I’m a fiscal conservative who still worries about the national debt.

well then perhaps you should stop voting for the party that explodes it every time they get into office

i'm glad these people aren't voting Trump but jfc they're still dumb as rocks

Idk how Bernie did in the debates but I just donated $27. First donation to the campaign