lol, the incorrigible Polly T at her bullshit again again. Caroline Flint in yesterday's ES was saying the next leader needs to lead from the centre and she used "virtue signalling". Nothing like a bit of unsolicited advice from the same ol' predictable fules.
― calzino, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 09:31 (four years ago) link
Every country in Scandinavia has a Socialist and a Social Democratic party, btw. And a Green one, and probably a Socially Liberal one. It's great. You can really pinpoint the melts.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 09:49 (four years ago) link
It's everyone but the Socialists, of course
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 09:50 (four years ago) link
As usual, Fred, you have no idea what you're talking about, you have no clue about the Labour Party and the Labour movement in the UK - its history, its significance, its importance, so shut the fuck up and go and irritate some Americans instead.
Had arguments about Polly Toynbee before, the idea that she's 'on our side' when she's a fake who was quite happy to be involved in an attempt to destroy the Labour movemement before.
― Load up your rubber wallets (Tom D.), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 10:17 (four years ago) link
Suzanne Moore also covering herself in glory today.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 10:28 (four years ago) link
As ever.
― hyds (gyac), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 10:36 (four years ago) link
I was reading that Jon Stone thread about the shittiness of New Labour and he mentioned Caroline Flint, in government, advocating for council houses to be taken off the unemployed. Because that, of course, is why you’re voting Labour.
― hyds (gyac), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 10:37 (four years ago) link
it's amazing how many former Labour MP's only ever wanted to be in a reconstructed Tory party.
― calzino, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 10:40 (four years ago) link
current MP's the same of course
― calzino, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 10:42 (four years ago) link
"What was your motivation for becoming an MP Caroline?"
"I always had this burning desire to make poor ppl homeless so I joined the Labour Party of course"
― calzino, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 10:44 (four years ago) link
Just dropping this thread here for a bit of much-needed context to Labour right criticism. Plus it’s bleak all laid out like that.
there’s been a reassessment of the Blair/Brown government on the Left in recent years: you hear more about its achievements than you used you. that’s good, but it’s also important not to forget that it regularly did things a Tory government would be criticised for (THREAD)— Jon Stone (@joncstone) February 23, 2020
― hyds (gyac), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 10:48 (four years ago) link
essential thread is that .. b b b but Sure Start centres!
― calzino, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 10:58 (four years ago) link
also even John Major took a more tentative steady as she goes approach to PFI'ing the NHS than Blair because he didn't think the Tories could even away with it without a public backlash.
― calzino, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 11:06 (four years ago) link
I was literally talking about Scandinavia. Ffs the level of xenophobic idiocy among the uk posters
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 11:09 (four years ago) link
Just the usual Fred Derangement Syndrome.
― romanesque architect (pomenitul), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 11:14 (four years ago) link
Dane Derangement
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 11:15 (four years ago) link
Daneragement.
― romanesque architect (pomenitul), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 11:16 (four years ago) link
It's all over the front pageYou give me Dane rage
― Dunty Reggae party 🎉 (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 11:17 (four years ago) link
Denophobia
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 11:17 (four years ago) link
“Uk posters” when at least half of us aren’t from there
― hyds (gyac), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 11:18 (four years ago) link
Don't sell yourself short, you've been in this country long enough to qualify.
― romanesque architect (pomenitul), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 11:19 (four years ago) link
You've been stewed in the ambient denophobia of old Albion for long enough
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 11:20 (four years ago) link
It’s true, I do love to be xenophobic against...*checks notes* foreigners discussing UK politics.
― hyds (gyac), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 11:21 (four years ago) link
xxxp flagged post for gratuitous use of third-tier Britpop band lyrics
― Neil S, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 11:21 (four years ago) link
Pretty sure all of our Denophobic DNA has a large glug of dansk swilling around in it
― Dunty Reggae party 🎉 (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 11:22 (four years ago) link
Tbf Beowulf, the great Anglo-Saxon epic, begins with a line about 'the Spear-Danes in days gone by'.
― romanesque architect (pomenitul), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 11:23 (four years ago) link
Despite loving Brage he's still just a Dane in cage
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 11:24 (four years ago) link
No more tiers, enough is enough
― Dunty Reggae party 🎉 (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 11:24 (four years ago) link
Fun fact, Dan was the older brother of Angul, ancestor of the Anglo-Saxons. So you are all just whiny younger siblings. Admittedly except for the Celts.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 11:24 (four years ago) link
The English are just self-hating Frenchified Scandos.
― romanesque architect (pomenitul), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 11:26 (four years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1200916423905828871/gMO-IZcb_400x400.jpg
itt Blatant Dan[e]ophobia
― calzino, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 11:27 (four years ago) link
There was Shield Sheafson, scourge of many tribes,a wrecker of mead-benches, rampaging among foes.This terror of the hall-troops had come far.A foundling to start with, he would flourish later onas his powers waxed and his worth was proved.In the end each clan on the outlying coastsbeyond the whale-road had to yield to himand begin to pay tribute. That was one good king.
― romanesque architect (pomenitul), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 11:29 (four years ago) link
Not sure the Vikings ever made it to my neck of the woods but we know the Normans did. Source: very Norman surname on one side of the family.
― hyds (gyac), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 11:31 (four years ago) link
Fwiw Dublin's Christ Church Cathedral was apparently built by a Norse King, Sigtrygg Silkbeard.
― romanesque architect (pomenitul), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 11:33 (four years ago) link
The Normans were just melt vikings
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 11:34 (four years ago) link
I think the first descriptions of Vikings were by Irish monks iirc
Lol I literally mean the very specific part of the country most of my family is from...I know the Vikings went there, lads. Christchurch is great! You should visit before you go, pom.
― hyds (gyac), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 11:37 (four years ago) link
I did, actually, and I concur! I was lucky enough to visit Ireland before ever setting foot in Britain (one of my wife's aunts married an Irishman).
― romanesque architect (pomenitul), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 11:38 (four years ago) link
And you are literally the most irritating, thin-skinned, hypocritical fucker on ILX and that has nothing to do with you being Danish and is an opinion shared by ILXors of all nationalities and creeds and colours - congratulations, you've brought us all together.
It's perfectly simple, if someone wanders into a discussion on Danish politics with the express desire of winding the participants in the discussion with a lot of ill-informed garbage then you are perfectly entitled to tell them to get to fuck - I'd expect nothing less.
― Load up your rubber wallets (Tom D.), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 11:39 (four years ago) link
Do we really need this right now? At least wait for Fred to say something genuinely offensive before lashing back like that.
― romanesque architect (pomenitul), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 11:40 (four years ago) link
Actually Christchurch is in New Zealand
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 11:41 (four years ago) link
Now you can lash back
Technically correct. Also in England, Wales and the US, apparently.
― romanesque architect (pomenitul), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 11:42 (four years ago) link
it *was* in NZ until it fell over
all FPs greatfully acknowledged
― Dunty Reggae party 🎉 (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 11:43 (four years ago) link
Christ! Church!
― calzino, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 11:45 (four years ago) link
Calling people xenophobic idiots not offensive enough for you?
― Load up your rubber wallets (Tom D.), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 11:45 (four years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_LYwntU8AA8SPA.jpg
wait, wrong Scandos, soz
― Dunty Reggae party 🎉 (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 11:46 (four years ago) link
Fred's entirely inoffensive Scandi perspective was a legitimate contribution and the backlash is absolutely ludicrous. I have spoken
― imago, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 11:47 (four years ago) link
i got no beef with Fred today except i detect an ironic melt sympathy that is bad
― Dunty Reggae party 🎉 (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 11:47 (four years ago) link
Lol Tom otmNot sure why we need to pretend someone acting like a prick isn’t going to get someone telling him that, but maybe he needs the attention so we should pity him instead
― hyds (gyac), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 11:47 (four years ago) link