Is the Guardian worse than it used to be?

Fred's entirely inoffensive Scandi perspective was a legitimate contribution and the backlash is absolutely ludicrous. I have spoken

i got no beef with Fred today except i detect an ironic melt sympathy that is bad

Lol Tom otm

Not sure why we need to pretend someone acting like a prick isn’t going to get someone telling him that, but maybe he needs the attention so we should pity him instead

Written after you lashed out, calling me an idiot for writing about where I'm from without knowing enough about the uk

Is this about Louis Cachet?

4xp

actually i meant to phrase that as a question not a double-edged hint Fred do you think we shouldn't be beastly to the melts y/n?

That was to Tom of course

And yes, Fred has the right to defend himself when under gratuitous attack. Them's the playground rules.

is the is the guardian worse than it used to be thread worse than it used to be

Written after you lashed out, calling me an idiot for writing about where I'm from without knowing enough about the uk

I don't know much about Denmark, you don't know much about the UK, we're even expect you can't keep your trap shut.

I think you should have proportional representation. Makes it much easier to be beaatly to the melts

anyway lads i'm off to the pub keep it civil will ye i'll be back in oh 20 minutes or so

This is a clear step up from that horrid Polly Toynbee piece.

Always try to play the ball, not the man

i am pro PR but also pro gulaging melts so i think we could make this work

xp what if you’d prefer to kick the man

The shoulder charge has not been entirely outlawed from the modern game I believe?

Always try to play the ball, not the man

What on earth is this? You play both, leave a reducer early doors

Little bit of jersey tugging never did anyone any harm.

Typical Trots, always trying to take us back to the 1970s

I mean I do regard Roy Keane as something of a demigod so

Roy knew how to treat a Scandinavian!

And guess whose son is back to presumably score a zillion goals against both Manchester United and Ireland over the next 15 years

Kasper Schmeichel?

OK go away Fred lol

Son isn't going to be playing til he's 42, come on now

Son isn't going to be playing til he's 42, come on now

His injury isn't that bad, he'll back in the Spurs team before the end of the season.

okay i'm calling it: the is the guardian worse than it used to be thread is worse than it used to be

I dunno I think this has been constructive we should pick another thread and do it again tomorrow

Anyway, interesting, but surely completely coincidental, that The Guardian's running a stream of negative comment pieces and sketches about Priti Patel a few days after she was briefing against MI5.

Galaxy brain: Priti Patel has ordered MI5 to force The Guardian to run a stream of negative comment pieces and sketches about her so as to instill fear amongst the populace.

[l-r] organ grinder, monkey.

Christ, I just saw that Toynbee piece says RLB and Nandy “fell in the trans thorn bushes”, absolutely get fucked forever, Polly

I missed remarking on the really obvious thing in PT's column -- namely that she presented it as bizarre that a majority of Labour members prefer JC to Blair.

You don't need to be as much of an admirer of JC as I am to see why it's daft to find this odd. Many of us like JC because we trust him and share his values on the basis of virtually everything he has ever said and done. Many of us have doubts about TB because he launched destructive, destabilizing illegal wars.

It would be odd if the membership of a party of the left didn't think this way. It's disingenuous at best if PT can't see this.

PT is a strange and not entirely hateful observer imo but yeah of course the Corbyn "bafflement" speaks volumes, as does any defence of Blair tbh

It's disingenuous at best if PT can't see this.

Its not disingenuous, she is simply out of touch. Its the same thing with MSNBC's meltdown/bafflement over the rise of Bernard. Its alien to them because they're cut off and as media people their job is to create realities. Thats why there's almost no reflection, no curiosity, no anything - and why 'cultishness' is the only answer they have

Her position was set however many years ago and her job is just to roll it out every week, regardless of whats happening. Its a form of brainworms more than disingeneousness.

Her dad was shit-hot at predicting the direction of traffic as well, he declared the fad for JRR Tolkien was over just before paperback LOTR was published in the US in the 60's! He did the transition from tankie to grumpy old conservative reactionary - more of the latter obv rubbed off on Polly.

got to hand it to her though - she's very accomplished at being Polly Toynbee, must be a charmed life when you get quite handsomely remunerated for just being yourself!

Lol imagine calling people xenophobic because your idiotic opinion was called out.

I can imagine it.

Feel like I've seen it in the wild.

How many threads must a man scroll through
Until he finds one without Fred

Politics, prog rock or poll
All you've gotta do is scroll
And I'll be there
You've got a Fred

Remove Bookmark from this Threaaaaaaad

I know it's advertorial but the fucking state of this

https://www.theguardian.com/taking-care-of-business/2019/dec/11/set-goals-switch-off-social-and-snack-well-how-to-be-more-productive-at-work?utm_source=pdscl&utm_medium=sfbk&utm_camp

They’re just fucking with us now

Strange as it may seem, Keir Starmer could be the British Bernie Sanders | Patrick Maguire https://t.co/8e70kkiUkq

— The Guardian (@guardian) February 27, 2020

Cultivating new support across class and ethnic divides has put Sanders on the road to the Democratic nomination, and Starmer believes that the same approach can put Labour back on the path to power: keep left, rebuild a diverse coalition of voters, and look beyond the red wall.

no i think a lot of them really are capable of this level of doublethink

Patrick Maguire is a political correspondent at the New Statesman

the vested interests arraigned behind RLB