It's disingenuous at best if PT can't see this.
Its not disingenuous, she is simply out of touch. Its the same thing with MSNBC's meltdown/bafflement over the rise of Bernard. Its alien to them because they're cut off and as media people their job is to create realities. Thats why there's almost no reflection, no curiosity, no anything - and why 'cultishness' is the only answer they have
Her position was set however many years ago and her job is just to roll it out every week, regardless of whats happening. Its a form of brainworms more than disingeneousness.
― anvil, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 16:11 (four years ago) link
Her dad was shit-hot at predicting the direction of traffic as well, he declared the fad for JRR Tolkien was over just before paperback LOTR was published in the US in the 60's! He did the transition from tankie to grumpy old conservative reactionary - more of the latter obv rubbed off on Polly.
― calzino, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 16:12 (four years ago) link
got to hand it to her though - she's very accomplished at being Polly Toynbee, must be a charmed life when you get quite handsomely remunerated for just being yourself!
― calzino, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 16:22 (four years ago) link
Lol imagine calling people xenophobic because your idiotic opinion was called out.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 16:27 (four years ago) link
I can imagine it.
― Load up your rubber wallets (Tom D.), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 16:45 (four years ago) link
Feel like I've seen it in the wild.
― Dunty Reggae party đ (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 17:28 (four years ago) link
How many threads must a man scroll throughUntil he finds one without Fred
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 18:40 (four years ago) link
Politics, prog rock or pollAll you've gotta do is scrollAnd I'll be thereYou've got a Fred
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 18:47 (four years ago) link
Remove Bookmark from this Threaaaaaaad
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 18:48 (four years ago) link
I know it's advertorial but the fucking state of this
https://www.theguardian.com/taking-care-of-business/2019/dec/11/set-goals-switch-off-social-and-snack-well-how-to-be-more-productive-at-work?utm_source=pdscl&utm_medium=sfbk&utm_camp
― Dunty Reggae party đ (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 20:57 (four years ago) link
Theyâre just fucking with us now
Strange as it may seem, Keir Starmer could be the British Bernie Sanders | Patrick Maguire https://t.co/8e70kkiUkq— The Guardian (@guardian) February 27, 2020
Cultivating new support across class and ethnic divides has put Sanders on the road to the Democratic nomination, and Starmer believes that the same approach can put Labour back on the path to power: keep left, rebuild a diverse coalition of voters, and look beyond the red wall.
― median punt (gyac), Thursday, 27 February 2020 18:10 (four years ago) link
no i think a lot of them really are capable of this level of doublethink
― Dunty Reggae party đ (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 27 February 2020 18:23 (four years ago) link
Patrick Maguire is a political correspondent at the New Statesman
― romanesque architect (pomenitul), Thursday, 27 February 2020 18:24 (four years ago) link
the vested interests arraigned behind RLB
― Dunty Reggae party đ (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 27 February 2020 18:31 (four years ago) link
well yes the left of the party's base and the Unite union are obstacles to be overcome, never mind that Starmer still hasn't revealed whose pocket he is in the shady cunt.
― calzino, Thursday, 27 February 2020 18:35 (four years ago) link
isn't party politics about self-interest groups or is it somehow shady and "populist" if the self-interest groups aren't corporations and billionaires?
― calzino, Thursday, 27 February 2020 18:42 (four years ago) link
This is how these cunts talk when they've got no concept of a Labour Party that can anything else but a reconstructed version of the tories.
― calzino, Thursday, 27 February 2020 18:56 (four years ago) link
Theyâre just fucking with us nowđŚ[Strange as it may seem, Keir Starmer could be the British Bernie Sanders | Patrick Maguire https://t.co/8e70kkiUkqđ¸â The Guardian (@guardian) February 27, 2020đ¸]đŚ_Cultivating new support across class and ethnic divides has put Sanders on the road to the Democratic nomination, and Starmer believes that the same approach can put Labour back on the path to power: keep left, rebuild a diverse coalition of voters, and look beyond the red wall._
― Fizzles, Friday, 28 February 2020 07:06 (four years ago) link
RLB doesn't have an attack line. She hasn't attacked anyone in this campaign. Rightly or wrongly.
― the pinefox, Saturday, 29 February 2020 14:24 (four years ago) link
Apparently wrongly.
― Dunty Reggae party đ (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 29 February 2020 14:30 (four years ago) link
releasing her list of campaign donors and then her biggest donor big len steaming into the starmer campaign about his lack of disclosure was a minor attack I suppose. If I had been running her campaign Starmer would probably be successfully suing me for libel right now, but I'd have made at least some of that shit stick to him and cause some damage at least. I hate all that unity bs, as if politics isn't about competing factions and their interests.
― calzino, Saturday, 29 February 2020 14:38 (four years ago) link
even though Starmer has put on a show of keeping it polite blah blah unity, his campaign have been playing dirty and smearing right from from the off. Bunch of foul Akehurst/Labour First moles!
― calzino, Saturday, 29 February 2020 14:45 (four years ago) link
Politeness is always a political move
― Dunty Reggae party đ (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 29 February 2020 14:59 (four years ago) link
― Fizzles, Saturday, 29 February 2020 15:47 (four years ago) link
sorry, as calz said.
― Fizzles, Saturday, 29 February 2020 15:59 (four years ago) link
Big Dunty has gushed that Starmer is "the functional opposition coming" because his twitter account has done a short critical thread on the outrage against oh so brave Sir Philip Rutnam and the civil service. What a merciless offensive against the tory government, they must be shaking in their boots in the face of finally ... a functional opposition!
― calzino, Saturday, 29 February 2020 16:19 (four years ago) link
Can't wait till Lisa Nandy comes out and says that Labour haven't been bullying civil servants enough and how bullying is a part of life in towns— Loki (@Lokinash06) February 29, 2020
― calzino, Saturday, 29 February 2020 16:57 (four years ago) link
oops sorry I'm misusing this thread as a proxy Labour leadership one
― calzino, Saturday, 29 February 2020 16:58 (four years ago) link
or poxy as I should have said!
― calzino, Saturday, 29 February 2020 17:06 (four years ago) link
posting vmichttps://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/feb/28/press-tom-watson-peerage-labour-lords-rupert-murdoch
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 29 February 2020 17:35 (four years ago) link
Just had a lovely train of thought where this thread is the valid title for a dystopian 70s sci-fi world
― Dunty Reggae party đ (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 29 February 2020 18:31 (four years ago) link
Watsonâs name features a number of times in this weekâs report of the independent inquiry into child sexual abuse (IICSA) but he is not, so far as I can tell, directly criticised. The report is more concerned that, though there was ample evidence of sexual abusers linked to Westminster, there was a culture of deference towards politicians and other well-connected people. Others feature rather more centrally than Watson.
― median punt (gyac), Saturday, 29 February 2020 18:44 (four years ago) link
Yeah
Other thoughts later, but mostly "satanic abuse"
― Dunty Reggae party đ (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 29 February 2020 19:06 (four years ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/02/pete-buttigieg-president-white-house-gay-lgbtq
Iâm sure there is a good article that could be written about Pete Buttigieg running a moderately successful campaign as a gay man, but this is not it.
― AlanSmithee, Tuesday, 3 March 2020 09:40 (four years ago) link
Guardian really covering itself in glory atm. This piece is so scummy I archived it. Chucking in the Polanski comparison - as though being uninvited from speaking was on the same fucking planet as being a child rapist who never served his sentence. Whatâs the motive for such a wild and insane comparison, I wonder?*Hate crimes against trans people are spiralling and letâs not forget New Zealand granted a womanâs asylum application because of this reason. But nah, Suzanne and her mates doing the dirty work of the far right and kicking and screaming about being challenged for their bigoted views are the real victims.*this is rhetorical, itâs just too libellous to write down in full
― median punt (gyac), Tuesday, 3 March 2020 09:51 (four years ago) link
Sorry, as protesting a child rapist who never served his sentence.
― median punt (gyac), Tuesday, 3 March 2020 09:52 (four years ago) link
"Womanâs Place UK clearly isnât a hate group, and the Labour pledge led to many women using the hashtag #ExpelMe on Twitter"
expel them then, that would be guaranteed to cost Starmer some votes.
― calzino, Tuesday, 3 March 2020 10:01 (four years ago) link
fuck Suzanne Moore and her hair that looks like an elephant has shat on her head.
― calzino, Tuesday, 3 March 2020 10:02 (four years ago) link
I've no idea who she is or what she sounds like but its hard to imagine that she has a worse speaking voice than than Paperclip Man
― anvil, Tuesday, 3 March 2020 10:06 (four years ago) link
she's a bigot and once tried to run as an independent against Diane Abbott and lost her deposit I think.
― calzino, Tuesday, 3 March 2020 10:10 (four years ago) link
I imagine Diane Abbott was quaking in her boots when she saw Suzanne Moore's name on the candidate list.
― Load up your rubber wallets (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 March 2020 10:21 (four years ago) link
Womanâs Place UK was founded in 2017 to do not much else than moan about trans women and it is totally a hate group. Someone I have known for 30 years is a member and last week, somehow a phone call to offer sympathy re: my dead cousin turned into me telling her repeatedly not to talk to me about WPUK or Janice Turner or puberty blockers or how she isnât in a hate group (nobody who is not in a hate group needs to go around telling people they are not in a hate group). Babe, you are in a hate group.
― santa clause four (suzy), Tuesday, 3 March 2020 10:24 (four years ago) link
Lol. My t-shirt saying "I am not in a hate group" has people asking a lot of questions already answered etc
― Appleman Appears: 20/2/2020. Whose Cider You On? (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 3 March 2020 10:25 (four years ago) link
Good name for a band that, Hate Group.
― Load up your rubber wallets (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 March 2020 10:28 (four years ago) link
stopped reading that long read on the Golden Dawn trials by Trilling because it pissed me off when he jumps from Nazi occupied Greece to the creation of the EU without mentioning the UK backed fascist tyranny they suffered in between which has to be relevant to their history of fascism, typical ahistorical centrist bollocks.
― calzino, Tuesday, 3 March 2020 11:57 (four years ago) link
Indeed, one of the common mistakes made about Xenakis is that he had half his face blown off fighting the Nazis when, in fact, he had half his face off fighting the British.
― Load up your rubber wallets (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 March 2020 12:10 (four years ago) link
other common mistakes made abt xenakis include wait i have the list here somewhere
― mark s, Tuesday, 3 March 2020 12:11 (four years ago) link
I've got one you can borrow.
― Load up your rubber wallets (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 March 2020 12:13 (four years ago) link
it mentions it halfway down:
The German occupation of Greece in the second world war was marked by famine, massacres and a growing conflict between communist-led partisans and those rightwing Greeks who collaborated with the occupiers. As the war drew to a close, British forces, who had until then supported the partisans, attempted to prevent them from running the newly liberated country. Instead, the British empowered the right. This sowed the seeds for the civil war of 1946 to 1949, during which more than 150,000 people were killed. As the historian Mark Mazower writes in Inside Hitlerâs Greece, the civil war ended in victory for the right, behind whom âlurked the mysterious âpara-stateâ, a loose network of shadowy rightwing paramilitary organisations dedicated to protecting Greece ⌠from the leftâ.
Almost three decades of repression followed [...]
― Paperbag raita (ledge), Tuesday, 3 March 2020 12:14 (four years ago) link
I went into a rage and stopped reading before there!
― calzino, Tuesday, 3 March 2020 12:19 (four years ago) link