Posts you had second thought about and decided not to post - put them here

It's tone deaf to go on about the way wonders of a party system which cannot even begin to be implemented here, with an added assumption this would solve problems.

That assumption is in your head

I was responding to pinefox:

"There should be a socialist and a social democratic party. Trying to contain both has led to historical Labour strife."

This is wrong. What most 'socialists' are trying to achieve in practice is social democracy - eg: on the Scandinavian model that PT used to champion. I am on the far left by most UK standards but would call myself a social democrat. The real problem is that the Labour right, Blairites, et al, are not really keen on social democracy either. So she means 'There should be a social democratic party as well as a socially liberal neo-Thatcherite one'.

― the pinefox, 25. februar 2020 10:29 (eight hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

I read Fred's post as a casual 'btw this is what it's like in Denmark, comparing political systems is interesting and informative' (which is true). It wasn't a swipe – I don't even think he used the word 'melt' ironically in the follow-up, or just barely.

I'm all for the whole 'don't stoke the fire' thingy, but it's a bit hard when posters just make up shit in their own heads and can't read stuff in context before blowing a fuse. The obvious answer remains permabanning the bully.

It’s definitely a weird post to be raging about

The Social Liberal party in Denmark are absolutely melts, and having them in their own party means being able to humiliate them thoroughly every now and then. There was no irony at all. The Green and the Social Democrats are quite melty as well, though they do have their moments every now and then.

could go for a tuna one right about now mmmmm

Had a tuna melt on Sunday and was like why am I not always eating tuna melts

Personally I have never used the expression 'melt' in my life, either here or irl. Anyway I assumed Fred was doing his usual, "You lot are all tankies" routine, so maybe I got that wrong. That and the fact that he never seems to show up in UK politics threads to do anything other than provoke a fight.

Dafuq is goin on

-Marvin Gaye

lol

For the uninitiated:

Is the Guardian worse than it used to be?

Storm in the proverbial.

Was it really so offensive of Fred to bring in a Scandinavian perspective? I didn't think so.

Tom wrote this in response to my post about Scandinavia:

As usual, Fred, you have no idea what you're talking about, you have no clue about the Labour Party and the Labour movement in the UK - its history, its significance, its importance, so shut the fuck up and go and irritate some Americans instead.

I did go off one before that tbf but, yes, that was a neat touch from Fred.

we didn't stoke the fire

tbf Tom was bang otm there

Telling me, a guy from Scandinavia talking about Scandinavia, that I don't know what I'm talking about?

Stop playing dumb, Fred, no-one's buying it.

That is literally what happened

Sure.

not enough people having second thoughts itt imo tbh

Every country in Scandinavia has a Socialist and a Social Democratic party, btw. And a Green one, and probably a Socially Liberal one. It's great. You can really pinpoint the melts.

― Frederik B, 25. februar 2020 10:49 (ten hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

It's everyone but the Socialists, of course

― Frederik B, 25. februar 2020 10:50 (ten hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

As usual, Fred, you have no idea what you're talking about, you have no clue about the Labour Party and the Labour movement in the UK - its history, its significance, its importance, so shut the fuck up and go and irritate some Americans instead.

Had arguments about Polly Toynbee before, the idea that she's 'on our side' when she's a fake who was quite happy to be involved in an attempt to destroy the Labour movemement before.

― Load up your rubber wallets (Tom D.), 25. februar 2020 11:17 (nine hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

How many more quarantines do we need?

Every country in Scandinavia has a Socialist and a Social Democratic party, btw. And a Green one, and probably a Socially Liberal one. It's great. You can really pinpoint the melts.

― Frederik B, 25. februar 2020 10:49 (ten hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

It's everyone but the Socialists, of course

― Frederik B, 25. februar 2020 10:50 (ten hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

As usual, Fred, you have no idea what you're talking about

Like, what is there to discuss here?

A one man discussion is not a discussion.

It's seriously like arguing with Shaggy at this point

Shaggy from Scooby-Doo? Shaggy 2 Dope?

BOOM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6W5pq4bIzIw

This way, gentlemen:

Post here when you want to shit on someone passive aggressively until they see it and start a fight with you ITT

(And gentlewomen.)

am neither tbqh

I wasn't referring to you.

:D

lads

I’m always :D when I see silby post and then D: when I remember he’s male.

LOL @ Fred in Geoff Tipps "I won the mums" mode.

I’m always :D when I see silby post and then D: when I remember he’s male.

― median punt (gyac), Tuesday, February 25, 2020 12:13 PM (one minute ago)

I'm genderqueer

so, is it cool when someone who isn't from and doesn't live in a region whose politics are at issue posts on a thread if you agree with their politics, but it's only annoying if they post on the thread when you disagree with their politics?

like, I see a bunch of non-Californians opining on our state politics thread, and I just wanna know if I have the right to be annoyed at them, esp. when they get all sanctimonious

I don't really know what Fred's politics are tbh - and he plainly doesn't know mine - but given that he routinely characterizes posters on the UK politics thread as xenophobic tankies you can see why he's not particularly welcome there.

God knows the UK politics thread is hard enough work without him sticking his oar in.

blended haircut y or n?

If I started checking my notes here I’d never stop but tl;dr - lol.

like, I see a bunch of non-Californians opining on our state politics thread

? you do?

silby for one

oh right

To answer your question. Nej.