How will you vote in the Labour Leadership election?

the only positive I can take from the Labour Party is that some of the younger intake seem pretty cool and are pissing off all the right people and are too angry to melt.

She seems to have the attitude, force of personality and awareness. Haven't seen her under fire yet but promising early signs

She’s been under fire since before she was elected! Some NUS grudgeholder had screenshots of tweets made and deleted years ago under an account that doesn’t exist anymore just waiting to be passed to the press, which they did, and the party was under pressure to deselect her.

I meant in a mano-a-mano interview/debate scenario! But point taken and I'm sure she'd hold her own/take some names. Just think, if RLB had a strong emoji game we'd never have gotten to bickering in the first place

For someone not in Lab you seem to know a lot about CLPs

Evidence of the old glazzies.

Sure Sultana will show her inexperience sooner or later and the likes of imago will be the first to shoot her down

We're back in business, eh?

wrong thread ffs

I am only interested in lack of nerve, something which Sultana seems gratifyingly free of. We need more like her

We're back in business, eh?

― romanesque architect (pomenitul), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 bookmarkflaglink

Never out of business

Sure Sultana will show her inexperience sooner or later and the likes of imago will be the first to shoot her down

― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, February 26, 2020 11:32 AM (twenty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Bcz imago is known for shooting down the inexperienced? Grasping at straws her...

You can't win an election with kids.

If Sultana gets any notoriety out of the Westminster bubble he'll concern troll her left-wing opinions like there's no tomorrow. Talk about how his football forum pals don't like her etc. XP lol

Is Guy On Football Forum the new Man In Pub? Possibilities for a Guardian thinkpiece there.

The same football forum 'pals' I constantly defend the Labour left from!

Concern-trolling left-wing opinions has never been my thing and I was solidly behind all of Corbyn's policy stances and so forth. I'm much more concerned about image, performance and other supposedly irrelevant minutiae :)

Anyway I'm overstepping my remit here. Good luck to Sultana and all like her. May they body their interlocutors

have now voted how i indicated upthread

still not got my ballot, every time I re-check my junk mail i keep seeing the same unread my 3 pledges to you from Richard Burgon!

I sent them a query today about my ballot so hoping they’ll let me know if I’m not eligible (I should be because I joined beginning of January, but it would be funny if I wasn’t as it’d mean tons of centrists also aren’t)

no ballot for me either, i am being silenced4truth

Given Starmer said he wouldn't talk to The Sun and later admitted it was a lie to impress a Liverpool audience, how do we know his promise not to sell weapons to Saudi wasn't a lie to impress a Labour audience?

— Blue Labour Bodybag (@LamentablyAwake) February 26, 2020

"i would sell weapons to the sun", admits starmer in SHOCK new interview

xxp
the day Starmer spent his Unison stash deleting us fules!

Starmer quietly admitting he was bullshitting the scousers, if that didn't set alarm bells ringing among the bovine nominally left membership, then fuck every last one of them - they should join the LibDems.

whoah! ballot has just arrived this sec. I'm so fucking excited!

calz taking great pleasure in not giving KS a preference

got to admit I stuck twos up at and repeatedly said fuck off cunt to his drag and grab ballot icon. A futile and childish gesture for sure but it felt good!

What were your deputy prefs?

1. Dawn Butler
2. Lolchard Burgon

in light of the civility in politics awards I think it behooves us to recall that seemingly futile rudeness is an important part of british political culture and has a fine pedigree, going back at least to what must surely be the origin of "i fart in your general direction" at the siege of exeter, in response to the freshly installed king william gouging out the eyes of a local prisoner to demoralise the inhabitants, one of the ppl of exeter got his bum out and did a fart at them - we can only say fair play

xp but why though

Yeah why Burton?

Burgon

god knows tbh! Angela Rayner is probably a shoe in for deputy anyway and it was just a meaningless anyone but her gesture!

Burton listening to the Meatls has clearly worked!

Meatls, Keir, squalid

fwiw (not much) Burgon was nominated by McDonnell, Abbott, Ribeiro-Addy and the sainted Zarah Sultana. He's the only member of the Socialist Campaign Group running and is the only one who has backed RLB's position on open selection.

Don't tell me no-one has used the nickname, The Burgonmeister, yet?

xp Yeah but he's a known dimwit and a figure of fun. I mean sure Prescott but he was at least somewhat formidable (citation...needed?)

My ballot should be arriving soon #inittogether

credit where credit's due, prescott could throw a punch

If Burgon punches someone in the next 24 hours I'll throw him a preference

Prescott supported Corbyn and was generally better than most of the others in that gov afaict?

Oh, agreed! He was quite a useful presence as well, despite the mockery

think I'm going burgon, butler, rayner

was thinking Burgon could end up being a similar pain in the arse for Starmer that Watson was for Corbz. Not sure there is much strategic advantage in that, but I think the rest of them including Dawn, would prefer him as leader over RLB.

Burgon psyching out Starmer by constantly blasting out metal in the LOTO offices is the only way I can see that happening. And also, it’s a bad look if the membership returns two men.

I don't think there is a realistic chance of Burgon winning, but if he is as socialist as he claims then maybe he might not be happy when Starmer starts going soft on Universal Credit about 3.6 seconds into his tenure!

Burgon's not going to win anyway but I'm not especially convinced by the logic of voting for someone you privately think isn't really competent because they're ideologically aligned, people like that can set the cause back more than advance it. I'm largely unfussed by the results of this contest (partly because it's so obvious who's going to win both positions), but it probably will make me quite angry if Burgon gets more votes than Dawn Butler.

Also if he does get the position under Starmer he'll shut up and do what he's told. Literally impossible for anyone to be a bigger pain in the arse than Watson was.

(Obviously I'm not suggesting voting for someone you actively disagree with, before anyone jumps on that)

I’ve published my list of donors over £1500 https://t.co/zbfn3fWtZm

— Rebecca Long-Bailey (@RLong_Bailey) February 26, 2020

see this fuckers in the pocket of big energy/water companies and shadowy former labour donors who fucked off when Corbyn became leader, this is what transparency looks like.

A Starmer-Burgon result from them being the only two men in it would be pretty fucking offensive tbh