For someone not in Lab you seem to know a lot about CLPs
Evidence of the old glazzies.
― Load up your rubber wallets (Tom D.), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 10:27 (four years ago) link
Sure Sultana will show her inexperience sooner or later and the likes of imago will be the first to shoot her down
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 10:32 (four years ago) link
We're back in business, eh?
― romanesque architect (pomenitul), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 10:33 (four years ago) link
wrong thread ffs
― median punt (gyac), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 10:34 (four years ago) link
I am only interested in lack of nerve, something which Sultana seems gratifyingly free of. We need more like her
― imago, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 10:39 (four years ago) link
― romanesque architect (pomenitul), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 bookmarkflaglink
Never out of business
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 10:46 (four years ago) link
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, February 26, 2020 11:32 AM (twenty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
Bcz imago is known for shooting down the inexperienced? Grasping at straws her...
― Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 10:58 (four years ago) link
You can't win an election with kids.
― Load up your rubber wallets (Tom D.), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 11:02 (four years ago) link
If Sultana gets any notoriety out of the Westminster bubble he'll concern troll her left-wing opinions like there's no tomorrow. Talk about how his football forum pals don't like her etc. XP lol
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 11:03 (four years ago) link
Is Guy On Football Forum the new Man In Pub? Possibilities for a Guardian thinkpiece there.
― Load up your rubber wallets (Tom D.), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 11:10 (four years ago) link
The same football forum 'pals' I constantly defend the Labour left from!
Concern-trolling left-wing opinions has never been my thing and I was solidly behind all of Corbyn's policy stances and so forth. I'm much more concerned about image, performance and other supposedly irrelevant minutiae :)
― imago, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 11:21 (four years ago) link
Anyway I'm overstepping my remit here. Good luck to Sultana and all like her. May they body their interlocutors
― imago, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 11:22 (four years ago) link
have now voted how i indicated upthread
― devvvine, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 11:26 (four years ago) link
still not got my ballot, every time I re-check my junk mail i keep seeing the same unread my 3 pledges to you from Richard Burgon!
― calzino, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 11:30 (four years ago) link
I sent them a query today about my ballot so hoping they’ll let me know if I’m not eligible (I should be because I joined beginning of January, but it would be funny if I wasn’t as it’d mean tons of centrists also aren’t)
― median punt (gyac), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 11:33 (four years ago) link
no ballot for me either, i am being silenced4truth
― Generous Grant for Stepladder Creamery (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 11:35 (four years ago) link
Given Starmer said he wouldn't talk to The Sun and later admitted it was a lie to impress a Liverpool audience, how do we know his promise not to sell weapons to Saudi wasn't a lie to impress a Labour audience?— Blue Labour Bodybag (@LamentablyAwake) February 26, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 11:40 (four years ago) link
"i would sell weapons to the sun", admits starmer in SHOCK new interview
― Generous Grant for Stepladder Creamery (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 11:45 (four years ago) link
xxpthe day Starmer spent his Unison stash deleting us fules!
Starmer quietly admitting he was bullshitting the scousers, if that didn't set alarm bells ringing among the bovine nominally left membership, then fuck every last one of them - they should join the LibDems.
― calzino, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 11:47 (four years ago) link
whoah! ballot has just arrived this sec. I'm so fucking excited!
― calzino, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 11:52 (four years ago) link
calz taking great pleasure in not giving KS a preference
― median punt (gyac), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 12:07 (four years ago) link
got to admit I stuck twos up at and repeatedly said fuck off cunt to his drag and grab ballot icon. A futile and childish gesture for sure but it felt good!
― calzino, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 12:13 (four years ago) link
What were your deputy prefs?
― median punt (gyac), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 12:17 (four years ago) link
1. Dawn Butler2. Lolchard Burgon
― calzino, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 12:21 (four years ago) link
in light of the civility in politics awards I think it behooves us to recall that seemingly futile rudeness is an important part of british political culture and has a fine pedigree, going back at least to what must surely be the origin of "i fart in your general direction" at the siege of exeter, in response to the freshly installed king william gouging out the eyes of a local prisoner to demoralise the inhabitants, one of the ppl of exeter got his bum out and did a fart at them - we can only say fair play
― ogmor, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 12:22 (four years ago) link
xp but why though
― median punt (gyac), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 12:25 (four years ago) link
Yeah why Burton?
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 12:26 (four years ago) link
Burgon
god knows tbh! Angela Rayner is probably a shoe in for deputy anyway and it was just a meaningless anyone but her gesture!
― calzino, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 12:30 (four years ago) link
Burton listening to the Meatls has clearly worked!
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 12:43 (four years ago) link
Meatls, Keir, squalid
― median punt (gyac), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 12:46 (four years ago) link
fwiw (not much) Burgon was nominated by McDonnell, Abbott, Ribeiro-Addy and the sainted Zarah Sultana. He's the only member of the Socialist Campaign Group running and is the only one who has backed RLB's position on open selection.
― ShariVari, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 12:48 (four years ago) link
Don't tell me no-one has used the nickname, The Burgonmeister, yet?
― Load up your rubber wallets (Tom D.), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 12:48 (four years ago) link
xp Yeah but he's a known dimwit and a figure of fun. I mean sure Prescott but he was at least somewhat formidable (citation...needed?)
My ballot should be arriving soon #inittogether
― imago, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 12:51 (four years ago) link
credit where credit's due, prescott could throw a punch
― Generous Grant for Stepladder Creamery (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 12:52 (four years ago) link
If Burgon punches someone in the next 24 hours I'll throw him a preference
― imago, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 12:53 (four years ago) link
Prescott supported Corbyn and was generally better than most of the others in that gov afaict?
― median punt (gyac), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 12:58 (four years ago) link
Oh, agreed! He was quite a useful presence as well, despite the mockery
― imago, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 12:59 (four years ago) link
think I'm going burgon, butler, rayner
― ogmor, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 13:15 (four years ago) link
was thinking Burgon could end up being a similar pain in the arse for Starmer that Watson was for Corbz. Not sure there is much strategic advantage in that, but I think the rest of them including Dawn, would prefer him as leader over RLB.
― calzino, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 13:23 (four years ago) link
Burgon psyching out Starmer by constantly blasting out metal in the LOTO offices is the only way I can see that happening. And also, it’s a bad look if the membership returns two men.
― median punt (gyac), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 13:25 (four years ago) link
I don't think there is a realistic chance of Burgon winning, but if he is as socialist as he claims then maybe he might not be happy when Starmer starts going soft on Universal Credit about 3.6 seconds into his tenure!
― calzino, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 13:29 (four years ago) link
Burgon's not going to win anyway but I'm not especially convinced by the logic of voting for someone you privately think isn't really competent because they're ideologically aligned, people like that can set the cause back more than advance it. I'm largely unfussed by the results of this contest (partly because it's so obvious who's going to win both positions), but it probably will make me quite angry if Burgon gets more votes than Dawn Butler.
Also if he does get the position under Starmer he'll shut up and do what he's told. Literally impossible for anyone to be a bigger pain in the arse than Watson was.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 13:58 (four years ago) link
(Obviously I'm not suggesting voting for someone you actively disagree with, before anyone jumps on that)
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 14:00 (four years ago) link
I’ve published my list of donors over £1500 https://t.co/zbfn3fWtZm— Rebecca Long-Bailey (@RLong_Bailey) February 26, 2020
see this fuckers in the pocket of big energy/water companies and shadowy former labour donors who fucked off when Corbyn became leader, this is what transparency looks like.
― calzino, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 14:02 (four years ago) link
A Starmer-Burgon result from them being the only two men in it would be pretty fucking offensive tbh
― nashwan, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 14:05 (four years ago) link
not seen anyone make much of a case for butler beyond general palatability
― ogmor, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 14:08 (four years ago) link
Worked better with Corbyn leadership despite not being that leftAlways willing to speak up against bullshitHas actual ministerial experience You’d really have to make the case for Burgon beyond “CLPD candidate” tbh
― median punt (gyac), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 14:14 (four years ago) link
xps Matt otm!
― median punt (gyac), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 14:15 (four years ago) link
Burgon as the most senior/prominent leftie in the party would be an absolute bonanza for anyone who wanted to undermine the left. Every time he made a terrible TV appearance they'd be able to point and go 'see?'
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 14:17 (four years ago) link