outbreak! (ebola, sars, coronavirus, etc)

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nothing to make it sake to drink and the only food I have in quantity is rice

hmmm. maybe this could help: https://www.hobbyhomebrew.com/how-to-make-sake-at-home/

― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 27 February 2020 1:21 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

A very me slip on my part. Perhaps I should investigate some home brewing if I get locked in for a few weeks. And the rainwater tank is ideal, probably too much iron in Australian town water.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 27 February 2020 04:45 (four years ago) link

sake is really easy, speaking from experience! all you need is koji, wine yeast, rice, and clean water. you don't even have to seal it and basic sanitation is sufficient unlike beer.

sleeve, Thursday, 27 February 2020 04:51 (four years ago) link

Shave your sac and butts too men

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Thursday, 27 February 2020 04:54 (four years ago) link

That CDC facial hair chart is 100 percent hilarious.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 27 February 2020 04:56 (four years ago) link

always thoght the toothbrush 'stache sent out the wrong message but gotta do what you gotta do

Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 27 February 2020 05:06 (four years ago) link

Also long as you accompany it with Chaplin-style slapstick you should be fine.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 27 February 2020 11:03 (four years ago) link

What do any of you know about those UV cell phone cleaners? Are they at all effective? I imagine cell phones are tremendous vectors in the best of circumstances.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 27 February 2020 14:44 (four years ago) link

wheeeeeeeee

Coronavirus vs SARS/MERS/Ebola/Swine Flu 😬 pic.twitter.com/iRmeV0kWoI

— Dave Jones πŸ΄σ §σ ’σ ·σ ¬σ ³σ ΏπŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ (@WelshGasDoc) February 25, 2020

Generous Grant for Stepladder Creamery (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 27 February 2020 14:44 (four years ago) link

I'm not sure you heard what our esteemed president said last night. It's getting smaller, not bigger.

Expart of Languidge (Old Lunch), Thursday, 27 February 2020 14:51 (four years ago) link

xpost Apparently that graph is misleading?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 27 February 2020 14:57 (four years ago) link

no shit

Mordy, Thursday, 27 February 2020 14:59 (four years ago) link

At least I glanced at the replies, and the implication is it's taken out of context.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 27 February 2020 14:59 (four years ago) link

ooh i love fearmongering via incomplete or decontextualized information, hook me up to a drip of it

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 27 February 2020 15:01 (four years ago) link

Okay, here you go: we're all gonna die. You're hearing it more and more these days.

Expart of Languidge (Old Lunch), Thursday, 27 February 2020 15:09 (four years ago) link

Remember that you heard it on ilx first though.

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 27 February 2020 15:13 (four years ago) link

At least I glanced at the replies, and the implication is it's taken out of context.

Love to live in a connected world where Josh being dumb as a post can help kill my mother.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 27 February 2020 15:14 (four years ago) link

Idk why twitter moments needs shit like β€œ2 more people have been diagnosed with coronavirus in the UK”. Deeply irresponsible.

median punt (gyac), Thursday, 27 February 2020 15:15 (four years ago) link

That graph is stupid as fuck, no shit something that spreads far more easily than the other diseases kills more people.

median punt (gyac), Thursday, 27 February 2020 15:16 (four years ago) link

I've been meaning to start a rolling 'Real Romania' thread for a while now. I don't think I will in the end, but this – relevant – video goes some way towards compensating for that lack:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiM5ZUs9s68

romanesque architect (pomenitul), Thursday, 27 February 2020 15:20 (four years ago) link

The graph isn't making any claims about it killing more people though, just that it has of late an amazing speed of spreading.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 27 February 2020 15:22 (four years ago) link

Never mind, that video is from a year ago. I'm not sure that makes it better.

romanesque architect (pomenitul), Thursday, 27 February 2020 15:24 (four years ago) link

Why am I dumb as a post ... ? I mean, generally, sure, but specifically in this case?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 27 February 2020 15:28 (four years ago) link

Now is the time in our mid-pandemic meltdown when we ad hominem!

https://media.giphy.com/media/3ShY14S0XDhQI/giphy.gif

Expart of Languidge (Old Lunch), Thursday, 27 February 2020 15:35 (four years ago) link

The graph isn't making any claims about it killing more people though, just that it has of late an amazing speed of spreading.


True but it can only spread so easily because it’s asymptomatic or showing mild symptoms in so many people!

median punt (gyac), Thursday, 27 February 2020 15:41 (four years ago) link

Hang on, I have to brush some puppy off my shoes (sorry Josh, that was cranky even by my standards)

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 27 February 2020 15:41 (four years ago) link

No prob! I didn't know if I missed something, because I had just time enough in a parking lot to glance at the post, pop over to twitter and skim the responses, many of which implied the original post was irresponsible because it/the graph/video was taken out of context.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 27 February 2020 15:45 (four years ago) link

this thread is going to give me a heart attack

what is wrong with the graph, again? that it shows coronavirus spreading rapidly? and that's misleading or fearmongering? incomplete or decontextualized information?

the graph shows the number of deaths for each virus, clearly, with the % of deaths per case. the graph is showing, correctly, that coronavirus spreads much more rapidly than the previous epidemics, while, also having a lower mortality rate. it's the perfect complement to all of the hundreds of articles from recent days explaining that the long incubation period (~2 weeks before showing symptoms), combined with the relatively low mortality rate (~2%), means that it's in the sweet spot where it can spread quickly without people knowing, and without mass deaths (a la ebola) to serve as an indicator.

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!πŸ˜‚ (Karl Malone), Thursday, 27 February 2020 15:54 (four years ago) link

we're about 2 seconds away from someone in itt doing the "but it's no more dangerous than the common cold!" argument

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!πŸ˜‚ (Karl Malone), Thursday, 27 February 2020 15:55 (four years ago) link

fine i'll make that extremely stupid argument

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 27 February 2020 16:02 (four years ago) link

I know I'd rather catch coronavirus than ebola!

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 27 February 2020 16:03 (four years ago) link

xp the it's no more dangerous than the common cold one?

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!πŸ˜‚ (Karl Malone), Thursday, 27 February 2020 16:05 (four years ago) link

please don't make that argument

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!πŸ˜‚ (Karl Malone), Thursday, 27 February 2020 16:05 (four years ago) link

i'm not being serious!!!!!

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 27 February 2020 16:06 (four years ago) link

my position is that the panic scares me more than the virus

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 27 February 2020 16:07 (four years ago) link

otm

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Thursday, 27 February 2020 16:21 (four years ago) link

It’s gonna be 9/11 all over again but with an emerging infectious disease instead of terrorism and China instead of the middle east

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Thursday, 27 February 2020 16:22 (four years ago) link

9/11 was not that big of a deal and yet we lost our shit over it

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Thursday, 27 February 2020 16:22 (four years ago) link

Wow, Japan is literally closing all of its schools until April?!

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 27 February 2020 16:22 (four years ago) link

my position is that the panic scares me more than the virus

― american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, February 27, 2020 11:07 AM (fourteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah that's where i'm at too

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Thursday, 27 February 2020 16:23 (four years ago) link

Seriously, I don't see how it's practical to close am entire nation's schools for a month. If all those millions of kids are sent home, then someone has to stay with them, which means people not going to work, etc., which is tantamount to millions and millions of people home sick anyway.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 27 February 2020 16:33 (four years ago) link

just ftr, i am not afraid of dying of coronavirus or something. and i totally get worrying or just being annoyed about the panic, the indirect effects, and not the thing itself.

i think i am just oversensitive to this kind of thing because of the fine lines between good and bad faith arguments. basically, the great climate change internet comment section wars of 2007-2010 destroyed my ability to differentiate between the two

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!πŸ˜‚ (Karl Malone), Thursday, 27 February 2020 16:34 (four years ago) link

Karl has largely made my point for me, thanks Karl - my impression was that Josh skimmed the article with the informative graph, wanted to be told that it wasn't as serious, and picked up and rebroadcast 'graph wrong!'

(and my mother is recovering from double pneumonia, has poor function in at least one of her lungs, is on oxygen every night and probably will be permanently - if and when she catches this, that will almost certainly be it for her, so I'm a little twitchy about "oh yeah but it's low mortality")

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 27 February 2020 16:35 (four years ago) link

Seriously, I don't see how it's practical to close am entire nation's schools for a month. If all those millions of kids are sent home, then someone has to stay with them, which means people not going to work, etc., which is tantamount to millions and millions of people home sick anyway.

it's about containment. school is a hotspot for contagious diseases.

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!πŸ˜‚ (Karl Malone), Thursday, 27 February 2020 16:36 (four years ago) link

sad lol I didn't even skim the article.

I think the Japan thing is huuuuuge. I know why they did it, although I thought reporting was that kids were the *least* affected so far.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 27 February 2020 16:38 (four years ago) link

i would guess it's not so much to directly protect the kids, it's that they can still carry the virus, and without visible symptoms (during the incubation period)

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!πŸ˜‚ (Karl Malone), Thursday, 27 February 2020 16:41 (four years ago) link

As an out-of-work teacher, this is the first time I've been glad about the out-of-work part. In the first year or two of teaching, you get everything that's going around, because you don't have immunity yet. No one has immunity to this, and kids apparently get very mild cases, so a lot of teachers and school staff are going to be infected.

Lily Dale, Thursday, 27 February 2020 16:42 (four years ago) link

Yeah I'm also not super afraid of the virus at this point -- maybe it's naive, but I'm pretty healthy and have a history of weathering illnesses pretty well. I'm slightly more concerned for my parents and inlaws. Agree however about being concerned about the panic, and also concerned that Trump admin will bungle the response. At least I live in NYC/NYState which seem to have slightly more competent govts than the US right now.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 27 February 2020 16:43 (four years ago) link

Perhaps anyone without kids hasn't considered how massively disruptive it would be to, say, close all of America's schools for a month.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 27 February 2020 16:47 (four years ago) link

t/s: closing schools to help contain a pandemic vs keeping schools open and hastening a pandemic

Generous Grant for Stepladder Creamery (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 27 February 2020 16:49 (four years ago) link


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