outbreak! (ebola, sars, coronavirus, etc)

We were supposed to meet someone today and they oddly missed the time and they texted they had to go to Costco. And now I've learned that today is the day where everyone seems to be stocking up. So many people seem to be symptomatic here but like above not meeting the full criteria to test even though there are no kits. Supposedly they might try to get some from outside the US?

PSA: supposedly in 90% of coronavirus cases, you do not get a runny nose.

good to know

The symptoms that are pretty common in early stage cases are fever, fatigue and dry cough.

80+%: fever, fatigue, dry cough
~30%: shortness of breath, sputum production
~10%: muscle ache, confusion, headache
~5%: sore throat, runny nose, coughing up blood
~2%: chest pain, diarrhea, nausea, vomiting

Not looking forward to my turn with this.

also if you have an iphone you're *not* the villain -- apple does not allow films to show bad guys with their products

Buckle up America, it's going to be a bumpy ride.

xp lol

I'm feeling kind of run down and am going to an international convention tmrw... pray 4 me

pretty impressive how 3000 ~particular~ people dying can transform the world

It's something of a grassroots virus.

Yeah, I kind of had mild versions of all these things last month (sore throat, sooo tired) for three weeks but it never got bad enough so I chalked it up to extended jetlag and ennui. A friend thought it was mono but my lymph nodes were fine. And no one else around me caught it so i think it was just me. Xpost

Like I said mookieproof this is basically 9/11, Trump’ll be interning Chinese nationals within weeks

Regarding schooling at home in China, via https://lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v42/n05/wang-xiuying/the-word-from-wuhan

Children were presumably glad to be off school – until, that is, an app called DingTalk was introduced. Students are meant to sign in and join their class for online lessons; teachers use the app to set homework. Somehow the little brats worked out that if enough users gave the app a one-star review it would get booted off the App Store. Tens of thousands of reviews flooded in, and DingTalk’s rating plummeted overnight from 4.9 to 1.4. The app has had to beg for mercy on social media: ‘I’m only five years old myself, please don’t kill me.’

pretty impressive how 3000 ~particular~ people dying can transform the world

they may be the most powerful beneficiaries of global capitalism, but global capitalism would survive their deaths and continue on with scarcely a hiccough.

This is how we find out Bezos and Musk have actually perfected their Mars colony tech, we're just gonna see a giant rocket take off from Nevada.

it's about time

I did also learn today that costco put limits on paper goods and bottled water (at least they did here) that people could take because people stock up before any imminent disaster scenario, leave the stuff outside their home and return it all back to costco months later.

THIS IS NEIGHBOR RUMOR MILL.

is aimless having epiphanies roughly one week behind everyone else or

i think he's doing a tl; dr for this thread.

My neighbours are ahead on the stockpiling.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/0nt4ulvci7imotc/C1416CAD-E961-47E3-9556-146A3D347692.jpg?raw=1

bauhausvirus

So our kids (ages 11 and 15) will be on spring break the third week in March, and last fall we booked tickets for a big family trip to .... Italy!

Unclear what is going to happen now. I guess if the airline gives us vouchers or something, we'll go ahead and take them. I hate to cancel because everyone's been super excited about it. But I'm not sure we're going to have a choice. We're supposed to be flying in to Venice.

don't french kiss anyone or lick any toilet seats and you'll be fine

dammit

I booked a second travel insurance policy for a trip to Colombia in a couple of months. Obviously Latin America is largely unscathed for now so I'm not especially worried other than suddenly being quarantined and not able to fly in the first place. The first policy had loads of convenient exceptions for pandemics, epidemics and quarantine, which isn't really something we thought about at the time of booking.

If the government is actively telling you not to go to Northern Italy then you may be covered. A lot of airlines are letting people rebook for different flights without giving money back so it might be worth a try. Whether that will continue as losses mount who knows.

Also FFS we've just thrown out our No Deal Brexit stockpile after it attracted mice. This apocalypse shit is trickier than people would have you believe.

Excellent summer to have a major international football tournament with players and fans flying all over Europe in multiple different directions at once.

also the Olympics in Japan of course

World’s biggest pop band axe April stadium tour

https://www.nme.com/news/music/bts-cancel-shows-in-south-korea-over-coronavirus-fears-2615780?amp

imo chicken littles going 10 cloverfield lane already is bad but insisting that a likely global pandemic is fine actually is also bad and not really any less irresponsible (nb I don’t live in the united states)

arah the world isnt ever fine actually anyways its not a case of less or more responsible its a case of can we not

Excellent summer to have a major international football tournament with players and fans flying all over Europe in multiple different directions at once.

also the Olympics in Japan of course

I mean, the idea that these will still be happening is kind of what I'm talking about?

My wife is going to be at SXSW in a few weeks. I wonder how even something like that might be affected.

There was an excellent episode of The Daily podcast about the virus the other day. It was definitely alarming but in an informative way. One of the biggest concerns broached is if this virus does what the Spanish Flu did (which had a similar mortality rate) and returns to finish its course in the fall. Granted, medicine and hospitals have improved, um, significantly in the last 100 years - that was pre-antibiotics - but it still sounded pretty serious. It did have some clearheaded thoughts about who is affected and how. So far kids under 9 (I think) they said were still mysteriously resistant or immune, which he postulated was due to recent exposure to so many other coronaviruses. The other is that, predictably, the older you get the more at risk you are, but considering mortality rates are still being estimated based on a single Chinese paper, and that the virus in China disproportionately killed men, who also disproportionately smoked like chimneys, it's still a little unclear how bad this actually is, even if it's easier to theorize how bad it could get.

I've been contemplating a brief vacation in Los Angeles in a couple weeks, and now I'm not sure if it's a great idea. I think it will be ok, but definitely a little nervous.

I think it will be ok. Because if your concern is catching it, I don't see how you're necessarily much more at risk there than anywhere else in this country. Now, if you're worried about travel disruption ... who knows, right? But on the other hand, maybe there will be shorter lines at Disneyland.

I was sitting next to a woman on the plane whose dad was the flight attendant (she was just flying with him for the quick leg, he has been a flight attendant for 35 yrs etc.) She said the flight was supposed to have 70 empty seats and it was now full from rebookings/ last minute standby. They had stayed in one of the japanese owned properties on the water that the airline always uses and the staff said they had so many empty rooms, unheard of.

shame on all of you

So, the Coronavirus, which started in China and spread to various countries throughout the world, but very slowly in the U.S. because President Trump closed our border, and ended flights, VERY EARLY, is now being blamed, by the Do Nothing Democrats, to be the fault of “Trump”.

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 28, 2020

Our family was planning a trip to Italy in March. That’s now not happening but at least the airline has waived fees for rebooking.

xp the real coronavirus was us all along

we were in the early stages planning a honeymoon in italy at the end of summer, thankfully hadnt booked anything yet

The travel disruption is my biggest concern. I don't want to get stuck.

i'm on immunosuppressant drugs for a chronic illness and i'm not terribly worried tbh

i should probably get a flu shot tho :/

same chronic illness as crut but i am not on that drug, however I no longer have a spleen so I'm kinda worried for that reason

AIUI asplenic means an immune deficit vs bacteria but not vs viruses, so my big achilles heel would be a secondary infection. Have been given pneumovac recently.

I am not at risk of dying from it AFAIK, so catching it and getting quarantined could be fun actually

Being sick always sounds fun until the exact moment you realize you’re sick, ime

I just want to be able to credibly wear my ASK ME ABOUT MY CORONAVIRUS shirt

What if the real coronavirus was the friends we made along the way?

xp where can I buy these?

my DEFINITELY NOT INFECTED WITH THE CORONAVIRUS t-shirt has people asking a lot of questions already answered by etc