outbreak! (ebola, sars, coronavirus, etc)

is aimless having epiphanies roughly one week behind everyone else or

i think he's doing a tl; dr for this thread.

My neighbours are ahead on the stockpiling.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/0nt4ulvci7imotc/C1416CAD-E961-47E3-9556-146A3D347692.jpg?raw=1

bauhausvirus

So our kids (ages 11 and 15) will be on spring break the third week in March, and last fall we booked tickets for a big family trip to .... Italy!

Unclear what is going to happen now. I guess if the airline gives us vouchers or something, we'll go ahead and take them. I hate to cancel because everyone's been super excited about it. But I'm not sure we're going to have a choice. We're supposed to be flying in to Venice.

don't french kiss anyone or lick any toilet seats and you'll be fine

dammit

I booked a second travel insurance policy for a trip to Colombia in a couple of months. Obviously Latin America is largely unscathed for now so I'm not especially worried other than suddenly being quarantined and not able to fly in the first place. The first policy had loads of convenient exceptions for pandemics, epidemics and quarantine, which isn't really something we thought about at the time of booking.

If the government is actively telling you not to go to Northern Italy then you may be covered. A lot of airlines are letting people rebook for different flights without giving money back so it might be worth a try. Whether that will continue as losses mount who knows.

Also FFS we've just thrown out our No Deal Brexit stockpile after it attracted mice. This apocalypse shit is trickier than people would have you believe.

Excellent summer to have a major international football tournament with players and fans flying all over Europe in multiple different directions at once.

also the Olympics in Japan of course

World’s biggest pop band axe April stadium tour

https://www.nme.com/news/music/bts-cancel-shows-in-south-korea-over-coronavirus-fears-2615780?amp

imo chicken littles going 10 cloverfield lane already is bad but insisting that a likely global pandemic is fine actually is also bad and not really any less irresponsible (nb I don’t live in the united states)

arah the world isnt ever fine actually anyways its not a case of less or more responsible its a case of can we not

Excellent summer to have a major international football tournament with players and fans flying all over Europe in multiple different directions at once.

also the Olympics in Japan of course

I mean, the idea that these will still be happening is kind of what I'm talking about?

My wife is going to be at SXSW in a few weeks. I wonder how even something like that might be affected.

There was an excellent episode of The Daily podcast about the virus the other day. It was definitely alarming but in an informative way. One of the biggest concerns broached is if this virus does what the Spanish Flu did (which had a similar mortality rate) and returns to finish its course in the fall. Granted, medicine and hospitals have improved, um, significantly in the last 100 years - that was pre-antibiotics - but it still sounded pretty serious. It did have some clearheaded thoughts about who is affected and how. So far kids under 9 (I think) they said were still mysteriously resistant or immune, which he postulated was due to recent exposure to so many other coronaviruses. The other is that, predictably, the older you get the more at risk you are, but considering mortality rates are still being estimated based on a single Chinese paper, and that the virus in China disproportionately killed men, who also disproportionately smoked like chimneys, it's still a little unclear how bad this actually is, even if it's easier to theorize how bad it could get.

I've been contemplating a brief vacation in Los Angeles in a couple weeks, and now I'm not sure if it's a great idea. I think it will be ok, but definitely a little nervous.

I think it will be ok. Because if your concern is catching it, I don't see how you're necessarily much more at risk there than anywhere else in this country. Now, if you're worried about travel disruption ... who knows, right? But on the other hand, maybe there will be shorter lines at Disneyland.

I was sitting next to a woman on the plane whose dad was the flight attendant (she was just flying with him for the quick leg, he has been a flight attendant for 35 yrs etc.) She said the flight was supposed to have 70 empty seats and it was now full from rebookings/ last minute standby. They had stayed in one of the japanese owned properties on the water that the airline always uses and the staff said they had so many empty rooms, unheard of.

shame on all of you

So, the Coronavirus, which started in China and spread to various countries throughout the world, but very slowly in the U.S. because President Trump closed our border, and ended flights, VERY EARLY, is now being blamed, by the Do Nothing Democrats, to be the fault of “Trump”.

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 28, 2020

Our family was planning a trip to Italy in March. That’s now not happening but at least the airline has waived fees for rebooking.

xp the real coronavirus was us all along

we were in the early stages planning a honeymoon in italy at the end of summer, thankfully hadnt booked anything yet

The travel disruption is my biggest concern. I don't want to get stuck.

i'm on immunosuppressant drugs for a chronic illness and i'm not terribly worried tbh

i should probably get a flu shot tho :/

same chronic illness as crut but i am not on that drug, however I no longer have a spleen so I'm kinda worried for that reason

AIUI asplenic means an immune deficit vs bacteria but not vs viruses, so my big achilles heel would be a secondary infection. Have been given pneumovac recently.

I am not at risk of dying from it AFAIK, so catching it and getting quarantined could be fun actually

Being sick always sounds fun until the exact moment you realize you’re sick, ime

I just want to be able to credibly wear my ASK ME ABOUT MY CORONAVIRUS shirt

What if the real coronavirus was the friends we made along the way?

xp where can I buy these?

my DEFINITELY NOT INFECTED WITH THE CORONAVIRUS t-shirt has people asking a lot of questions already answered by etc

Get a custom printed tee.

Relevant:

https://www.theverge.com/2020/2/27/21155937/coronavirus-merch-shirts-amazon-etsy

hmm im prob an at-risk meself after the 2015 black lung

still if i go, i go

sorry guys, turns out coronavirus is just a hoax to make trump look bad and generally nbd, how silly we were to get so carried away.

Mick Mulvaney: Coronavirus is an anti-Trump hoax. Get over it. #TrumpVirus #TrumpCrash pic.twitter.com/DczCiGL9vB

— Nancy Levine 🌊Vote.org (@nancylevine) February 28, 2020

Rep. John Garamendi (D-Calif.) on Friday said the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases was told to “stand down” and not appear on five Sunday morning talk shows to discuss the coronavirus.

Garamendi told MSNBC’s Hallie Jackson that Anthony Fauci was scheduled to do all five major Sunday talk shows, but says Fauci canceled the appearances after Vice President Pence took over the administration’s response to the disease.

“I can repeat what he said, he said, ‘I was not muzzled. However, I was to go on the Sunday talk shows, five of them. The vice president’s office then took over the control of this situation, and told me to stand down, not to do those shows,'” Garamendi said, quoting Fauci.

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/485147-rep-garamendi-nih-director-fauci-cancelled-on-five-sunday-talk-shows-after

what's particularly sad/dangerous about that is that Fauci is one of the few people related to this in the administration that actually knows what they're talking about

I wasn't sure exactly what dick-trippery would be involved, but I had a very strong feeling Trump would be directly involved in ensuring his one-term status. It's just deeply unfortunate that it has to be at the expense of public health and quite possibly a number of lives.

this is the shit that pretty much makes it impossible to laugh at this administration, cos nothing about this is funny at all.

completely normal behavior for a democratic Republic. nothing to see here.

I think I have washed my hands about ten times already today. I am really enjoying the fingertips and thumb washing parts from the video I watched.

hand washing is hot, not gonna lie

Stephen Miller’s new wife, Katie Miller, is in charge of approving all coronavirus communications.https://t.co/Ojg3WWK9bh

— Travis Akers🩸🦷 (@travisakers) February 28, 2020

shocking right? who would marry such an unlikeable freak

Food-service for (terrifying) thought thread, via j0hnd

I am not an expert in immunology - I follow doctors for that.

But I did spend 9 years as a manager at a pizza place that paid better than average wages for food service.

And I am terrified of #COVID19.

Not because the virus is going to kill people, but because poverty might. / pic.twitter.com/SNke4cD3dW

— Do not Thump the Book of G'Nome (@NomeDaBarbarian) February 27, 2020

Judging by China, a wider epidemic would be boom-times for food delivery. Just hope the drivers sterilize their tips in Everclear.

Food-service for (terrifying) thought thread, via j0hnd

🐦[I am not an expert in immunology - I follow doctors for that.

But I did spend 9 years as a manager at a pizza place that paid better than average wages for food service.

And I am terrified of #COVID19🕸.

Not because the virus is going to kill people, but because poverty might. / pic.twitter.com/SNke4cD3dW🕸
— Do not Thump the Book of G’Nome (@NomeDaBarbarian) February 27, 2020🕸]🐦

NomeDaBarbarian is right that any disruption of working people's wages will drive many of them straight from hand-to-mouth mode to deeply impoverished and at risk of hunger. The big cut in the number of people who can qualify for food stamps that started on Jan. 1 this year won't help, either. Which reminds me, it's about time to write another check to the local food bank network.

But NomeDaBarbarian is wrong to imply that the COVID-19 virus won't kill people. It will.

He didn't say it won't; he said that's not why he's terrified.

amazon is sold out of hand sanitizer

(i know this because so is my local target)

(and my local target is also sold out of canned tuna)

steal some from work