How will you vote in the Labour Leadership election?

I thought it was widely agreed RLB is the greenest candidate with the bonus of not working with former fucking UKIP honchos?

Nandy also got a ringing endorsement from the good ppl of dewsbury last night despite paying lip service to neoliberalism and drip down economics. I think some folk just like her!

"she’s got a lovely touch, she gets the collaborative nature of what politics now needs to be”

lol all she ever does is legit concerns, predictions of doom or random jukebox hour.. what the fuck is he smoking?

you dirty .. dirty dirty old man.

just got an email from doreen lawrence backing starmer

maybe they swapped bending to royals tips at some point?

non-politics ppl I know are complaining abt starmer's voice. "I never want to listen to him again". I wonder if his offputting nasal southernness is why ppl up here are backing nandy

Nandy’s support is majority men, complete opposite of the other two.

ppl who like her sincere raised eyebrows expression

Monbiot pro-fracking now as well?

Labour has written to me telling me they can’t find me on my local electoral register and therefore I am not eligible to vote unless I prove otherwise? Possibly this is due to the version of the register (I opt out of the public one), but what a pain. I’ve forwarded them some proof, hopefully they let me know soon.

Nesrine Malik has a short piece about Nandy’s inability to triangulate

This fear of looking weak is why the opportunity to take on the Conservative party, and the right in general, by presenting a clear counter-narrative is missed again and again. There is already someone “listening” to people on immigration, already a party that has achieved the job of not making people feel irrational or racist for having anti-immigration views. Labour’s task is not to provide more of the same, but to spell out clearly the colossal trick that the right has played on the country, in taking the despair that should be directed at austerity, the gutting of the NHS, the corporatisation and dehumanisation of the state, and saying clearly that immigration has nothing to do with it.

She was literally coming out with 100% Tory lines on taxation at my local hustings, as in saying we can't have great the public services we enjoy if we overtax billionaires and the bunch of self-hating mugs gave her a round of applause. That's why they call her "Towns" I guess.

Honestly I was done with her the second she started lying about buses.

it's proof that lame as fuck libs like Monbiot are quite happy to vouch for pols despite being absolutely oblivious to what kind of policies they represent. I mean she has quite a scattergun approach but you get enough info to know that she is fiscally way to the right for starters.

https://www.newstatesman.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/screenshot_2020-02-28_at_16.30.04.png?itok=-hghMFIY

for a more thorough set of stats including data that might be able to answer the question: 'is alex sobel one of the top 8 most powerful LW forces in UK electoral politics?'

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Myl8IpeobHwTJQv4GPKHHIi5JrRXPgwOYh9Xl3uzh-E/edit#gid=0

come on, lads, I’ve given ye the evidence

https://i.postimg.cc/J4kvrCLb/8066-D47-D-657-D-4-B57-B67-E-B2-E2-B36-C6297.jpg UGH

sobez hopes to become the first gamer PM but he is a hardcore civ 5 zealot and will not upgrade to civ 6. first flavor flav gets kicked out of PE and now this - when will the left stop tearing itself apart?

I don’t really care about his Civ stance, I’m more interested in which fighting game series he likes more. I’m not voting for someone who likes Street Fighter.

This is a good interview from Starmer:

As Labour leader, what steps would you take to challenge the vilification of trans people in the media? And how would you educate people within the Labour Party and the wider population who still hold anti-trans views?

The Labour Party stands up for people who are being abused and vilified, and we always will we always should. Trans rights are human rights and I support the right to self identification. The Gender Recognition Act was a step in the right direction, but it doesn’t go far enough. Other countries have now gone past us with more rights; therefore, it does need extending. I agree about the dehumanising aspects of the [gender recognition] process. But we want to have this debate in the right spirit. I don’t think it helps to have too heated a debate about it, it must be possible to move forward in the right spirit.

The media’s role in this is really, really important because they’re amplifying some of the hatred. And I see the echoes of Section 28. The same arguments, the same examples that were used when we were battling Section 28 are now being used in a different context. And just as we battled it then, so we have to battle it now. I think we will look back at this period, at some of the media coverage in particular, and be ashamed of what’s gone on, just as we’re ashamed of what went on when we were battling Section 28. So that’s how I would approach it as a leader of the Labour Party.

A nice way to think about it, however idealistic, is that the closer RLB gets to him, the more attention he'll have to pay to these issues

I mean in fairness he was a human rights lawyer, I'm pretty sure he didn't suddenly start thinking about transphobia because he was looking over his shoulder at the RLB campaign.

That last answer though, indefensible.

Wait til you find out he’s an Arsenal season ticket holder and mentions this fact on his website.

One rule for Jezza

Not a season ticket holder!

he just pretended to be a gunner to own the ilx melts!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ELm8v4GW4AMfE0V?format=jpg&name=900x900

https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/nintchdbpict000401793302-e1524773971454.jpg

The top pic is Corbs and Starmer y/n

Islington North is Goonerville.

I know, I’ve spent a lot of time there!

I bet if you did a Herbert Chapman to the 70's Arsenal pub quiz Corbyn would kick Starmer's fucking arse.

(1)One oddities of the "Soft Left" in Labour, IMO, is while a v. large chunk of members are arguably "soft left", it has v.weak organisation, which leads to the "Soft Left" being easily pulled one way or the other (sadly IMO more often one way than the other)

— Solomon Hughes (@SolHughesWriter) March 3, 2020

think this is right and might even assuage the fears of the more generous starmer sceptics

it's proof that lame as fuck libs like Monbiot are quite happy to vouch for pols despite being absolutely oblivious to what kind of policies they represent. I mean she has quite a scattergun approach but you get enough info to know that she is fiscally way to the right for starters.

― calzino, Monday, March 2, 2020 2:14 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

monbiot is just a ditherer. he came round to the Scooby-doo Marxist view of climate disaster - capitalism did it! - in recent years but remains a fucking centrist when it comes down to it. useless

stanning for what is essentially the pro-fracking UKIP candidate in the labour leadership election and then feigning concern for the environment is it?

I have missed twitter like a stone in my shoe. But much of what I need to do I can only do here. Please join me and the noted ecologists @GeorgeMonbiot and @DaleVince in backing this case that might well rewrite our energy policy. https://t.co/oyE2e3lzYz

— Jo Maugham QC (@JolyonMaugham) March 3, 2020

lol, Monbiot has friends in high windmills

democratic, impassioned, modest; i don't know what anybody could have against these lads

I was so surprised to receive the Labour leadership ballot I was entitled to that I became overwhelmed with a sense of conciliatory cross-party goodwill and accidentally voted for Lisa Nandy, with an A4 piece of paper with the words "real opposition" written on it as Deputy

Sorry to break the news to you. Boris Johnson is racist. pic.twitter.com/UPE0Ixyhro

— (((Dawn Butler))) (@DawnButlerBrent) March 5, 2020

I'm voting Dawn now, but only in my imagination. We have definitely crossed the being called a racist being more offensive than being a racist rubicon.

If my damn ballot ever comes through I’ll slam that 1st preference for both of us

Love her, my ballot came through while I was away for the weekend so haven't cast my vote.

went for dawn! :)

yeah given the polling I think I will go butler > burgon > rayner

Long-Bailey enjoyed a misspent youth in the early Noughties in Manchester, where she went clubbing four nights a week, had rainbow-dyed hair and a lower lip piercing, wore baggy trousers with a vest and was a “bit of a skater girl”, although she says: “I could only go in a straight line. [The board] was more of a prop to make me look cool.”

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/rebecca-longbailey-interview-labour-leadership-race-a4382071.html

even more glad now of my vote

are you Not a member but: Starmer/Allin-Khan 1? I can't imagine you being in favour of either moshers or nandy, but mb I have you wrong

My ballot still hasn’t come

Looks like I’m calling tomorrow >:(

Mine came ages ago but I'm deliberating

didn't realise RLB was a mosher, that might explain why she doesn't seem to know shit about The Fall!