How will you vote in the Labour Leadership election?

come on, lads, I’ve given ye the evidence

https://i.postimg.cc/J4kvrCLb/8066-D47-D-657-D-4-B57-B67-E-B2-E2-B36-C6297.jpg UGH

sobez hopes to become the first gamer PM but he is a hardcore civ 5 zealot and will not upgrade to civ 6. first flavor flav gets kicked out of PE and now this - when will the left stop tearing itself apart?

I don’t really care about his Civ stance, I’m more interested in which fighting game series he likes more. I’m not voting for someone who likes Street Fighter.

This is a good interview from Starmer:

As Labour leader, what steps would you take to challenge the vilification of trans people in the media? And how would you educate people within the Labour Party and the wider population who still hold anti-trans views?

The Labour Party stands up for people who are being abused and vilified, and we always will we always should. Trans rights are human rights and I support the right to self identification. The Gender Recognition Act was a step in the right direction, but it doesn’t go far enough. Other countries have now gone past us with more rights; therefore, it does need extending. I agree about the dehumanising aspects of the [gender recognition] process. But we want to have this debate in the right spirit. I don’t think it helps to have too heated a debate about it, it must be possible to move forward in the right spirit.

The media’s role in this is really, really important because they’re amplifying some of the hatred. And I see the echoes of Section 28. The same arguments, the same examples that were used when we were battling Section 28 are now being used in a different context. And just as we battled it then, so we have to battle it now. I think we will look back at this period, at some of the media coverage in particular, and be ashamed of what’s gone on, just as we’re ashamed of what went on when we were battling Section 28. So that’s how I would approach it as a leader of the Labour Party.

A nice way to think about it, however idealistic, is that the closer RLB gets to him, the more attention he'll have to pay to these issues

I mean in fairness he was a human rights lawyer, I'm pretty sure he didn't suddenly start thinking about transphobia because he was looking over his shoulder at the RLB campaign.

That last answer though, indefensible.

Wait til you find out he’s an Arsenal season ticket holder and mentions this fact on his website.

One rule for Jezza

Not a season ticket holder!

he just pretended to be a gunner to own the ilx melts!

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The top pic is Corbs and Starmer y/n

Islington North is Goonerville.

I know, I’ve spent a lot of time there!

I bet if you did a Herbert Chapman to the 70's Arsenal pub quiz Corbyn would kick Starmer's fucking arse.

(1)One oddities of the "Soft Left" in Labour, IMO, is while a v. large chunk of members are arguably "soft left", it has v.weak organisation, which leads to the "Soft Left" being easily pulled one way or the other (sadly IMO more often one way than the other)

— Solomon Hughes (@SolHughesWriter) March 3, 2020

think this is right and might even assuage the fears of the more generous starmer sceptics

it's proof that lame as fuck libs like Monbiot are quite happy to vouch for pols despite being absolutely oblivious to what kind of policies they represent. I mean she has quite a scattergun approach but you get enough info to know that she is fiscally way to the right for starters.

― calzino, Monday, March 2, 2020 2:14 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

monbiot is just a ditherer. he came round to the Scooby-doo Marxist view of climate disaster - capitalism did it! - in recent years but remains a fucking centrist when it comes down to it. useless

stanning for what is essentially the pro-fracking UKIP candidate in the labour leadership election and then feigning concern for the environment is it?

I have missed twitter like a stone in my shoe. But much of what I need to do I can only do here. Please join me and the noted ecologists @GeorgeMonbiot and @DaleVince in backing this case that might well rewrite our energy policy. https://t.co/oyE2e3lzYz

— Jo Maugham QC (@JolyonMaugham) March 3, 2020

lol, Monbiot has friends in high windmills

democratic, impassioned, modest; i don't know what anybody could have against these lads

I was so surprised to receive the Labour leadership ballot I was entitled to that I became overwhelmed with a sense of conciliatory cross-party goodwill and accidentally voted for Lisa Nandy, with an A4 piece of paper with the words "real opposition" written on it as Deputy

Sorry to break the news to you. Boris Johnson is racist. pic.twitter.com/UPE0Ixyhro

— (((Dawn Butler))) (@DawnButlerBrent) March 5, 2020

I'm voting Dawn now, but only in my imagination. We have definitely crossed the being called a racist being more offensive than being a racist rubicon.

If my damn ballot ever comes through I’ll slam that 1st preference for both of us

Love her, my ballot came through while I was away for the weekend so haven't cast my vote.

went for dawn! :)

yeah given the polling I think I will go butler > burgon > rayner

Long-Bailey enjoyed a misspent youth in the early Noughties in Manchester, where she went clubbing four nights a week, had rainbow-dyed hair and a lower lip piercing, wore baggy trousers with a vest and was a “bit of a skater girl”, although she says: “I could only go in a straight line. [The board] was more of a prop to make me look cool.”

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/rebecca-longbailey-interview-labour-leadership-race-a4382071.html

even more glad now of my vote

are you Not a member but: Starmer/Allin-Khan 1? I can't imagine you being in favour of either moshers or nandy, but mb I have you wrong

My ballot still hasn’t come

Looks like I’m calling tomorrow >:(

Mine came ages ago but I'm deliberating

didn't realise RLB was a mosher, that might explain why she doesn't seem to know shit about The Fall!

Ballot’s here!

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This right here is why I voted Starmer 2nd preference:

🎙️ Is it Islamophobic?

🗣️ It’s not for me to pronounce if it’s Islamophobic or not

🎙️ Why not?

Labour leadership candidate @lisanandy reacts to news ex-UK equality watchdog chief Trevor Phillips has been suspended from Labour over Islamophobia claimshttps://t.co/fO6OxEMO6Y pic.twitter.com/t6eJ1qlPVV

— Victoria Derbyshire (@VictoriaLIVE) March 10, 2020

Nah I’ve come back to this - Nandy doesn’t wanna call islamophobia what it is because she knows that a large section of the “legitimate concerns” coalition she’s built don’t think anti-muslim racism is real. She’s even referred to “debates in Islam” over what TP has said??? https://t.co/DpZDBs9XYd

— Jase (@jasebyjason) March 10, 2020

tbh is Starmer's lawyerly silence on T Phillips any fucking better? :p

ah RLB is doing the same!

what does the P in PLP stand for again ? erm pigeonhearted, pusillanimous...fuck this party!

There is a lot of talent here. What a waste.

The debate around identity and protecting gender rights is complicated. People deserve so much better than this kind of flippant disregard. pic.twitter.com/5LLZuIVsQt

— Lisa Nandy (@lisanandy) March 10, 2020

sometimes she shows true potential and I really want to like her, it's just a shame she thought going back into that UKIP/legit concerns quagmire and a conservatively neoliberal approach to the economy was the correct route to take Labour into power.

She's right on gender self-ID but so were Theresa May and Penny Mordaunt. The bar isn't that low.

I thought it was now tbh!

in the personal sense I would probably much prefer her irl to that loathsome oily piece of shit Starmer!

she held herself genuinely impressively in that, and used a bit of humour well. shame about some of her policy stances as (as i've said above) ceteris paribus she is by far the most impressive of the three in debate or public speech

so long as Islamophobia isn't the issue at hand ;)

She was good on No Deal brinksmanship and coronavirus/the economy in the Guardian the other day as well, even if her approach would be seized upon by Cummings as continuing to try and frustrate Brexit etc it's probably a line that whoever wins needs to keep hammering in preparation for when everything goes wrong.

When they finally announce the winner no one outside the Labour Party will give a shit, the country hasn't exactly been riveted by the contest and people will have other things to worry about.

Starmer's humourless boring demeanour and sort of posh boss who everyone calls a wanker behind their back persona will be a major problem in the north for the Labour party, not just his voice or the Remoaner perception. I'm almost looking forward to seeing him getting hilariously brutalised by the opposition tbh. I know that is bad praxis, but I want the stupid membership to own their boy and reap what they have sown - the bunch of softy-lefty-melty fuckwits!