outbreak! (ebola, sars, coronavirus, etc)

some jewish schools in NY closed including SAR which honestly based on the name seems about right

big law conference for this upcoming weekend in Eugene is canceled

http://pielc.org/coronavirus-response/

im not immunocompromised, older, or in a poor state of health and just have accepted that I'm probably going to get this (I work at a university and use transit, im around people a lot) and it'll be fine. I already wash my hands often so there's not much more I can do. maybe buy a stack of mr noodles and some ensure for when I have to take a fortnight off work I guess

i'm immunocompromised and in a poor state of health but i'm not particularly worried - i mean maybe i'll catch it and i'll die god forbid and that would suck for my family for sure but it's not really in my hands beyond washing them.

Brooklyn much quieter than usual. Generally a scary world.

Some good information in this Vox interview with Bruce Aylward, from the World Health Organization:

https://www.vox.com/2020/3/2/21161067/coronavirus-covid19-china

"I think the key learning from China is speed — it’s all about the speed. The faster you can find the cases, isolate the cases, and track their close contacts, the more successful you’re going to be. [...]

People keep saying [the cases are the] tip of the iceberg. But we couldn’t find that. We found there’s a lot of people who are cases, a lot of close contacts — but not a lot of asymptomatic circulation of this virus in the bigger population. And that’s different from flu. [...]

China got patients in treatment early and have highly sophisticated health care treatment procedures. They are really good at keeping people alive with this disease. They have a survival rate (with a mortality rate of just under 1% outside of Hubei province) for this disease I would not extrapolate to the rest of the world. What you’ve seen in Italy and Iran is that a lot of people are dying.

Panic and hysteria are not appropriate. This is a disease that is in the cases and their close contacts. It’s not a hidden enemy lurking behind bushes. Get organized, get educated, and get working."

now is a good time to buy stock in companies that support walking, since lyft and uber are bound to take a hit from this. invest now in socks, shoes, soles, and it might not hurt to buy low on the cobbler industry

I would like to panic :\

What about bionic limbs?

xp

My bf and I both don't have insurance right now so I'm going with "stock up on anti-inflammatories and batten down." Going out less, leaving the city more. I was planning to visit MI soon but my parents are "older" now and my sister has a new baby so...MAYBE NOT.

good left communist article about coronavirus http://chuangcn.org/2020/02/social-contagion/

what's the pt in panicking? why suffer now about the fear of suffering that might happen later? if it does happen you can suffer then. if it doesn't you'll have suffered for naught.

oh wait, there's no point in worry about things that might happen? good to know, that will solve anxiety and depression for so many people!

And I was literally going to go to a returns watch party tonight but this thread is making me think maybe that's a bad idea? Is this the world now?

turns out, there was no point so you just have to not do it!

honestly im kinda psyched rly

well more to the point I'd like to react to this by starting to work remotely and just sitting at home but nobody is telling me I should so I'm more anxious than if I were yielding to my instincts to overreact

That WHO person is not taking into account the direness of the US healthcare system and who is in charge of the country.

Also, I don't consider it panicking. I consider it being responsible for those around you. Like, vaccinating your kids.

oh wait, there's no point in worry about things that might happen? good to know, that will solve anxiety and depression for so many people!

you mock but i suffer/ed with anxiety for my entire life and that is one of the thoughts that has given me a lot of comfort

I think he's addressing our direness here: China got patients in treatment early and have highly sophisticated health care treatment procedures. They are really good at keeping people alive with this disease. They have a survival rate (with a mortality rate of just under 1% outside of Hubei province) for this disease I would not extrapolate to the rest of the world. What you’ve seen in Italy and Iran is that a lot of people are dying.

well if the italians cant organise against this then what hope have th no sorry i cant

xpost. Oh ha, I thought he sounded overly optimistic. I guess he was just being factual.

Also this:

Q: Aren’t the two initial symptoms most commonly fever and dry cough?

Bruce Aylward:

Right. [But many still think] it’s a runny nose and cold. Your population is your surveillance system. Everybody has got a smartphone, everybody can get a thermometer. That is your surveillance system. Don’t rely on this hitting your health system, because then it’s going to infect it. You’ve got this great surveillance system out there — make sure the surveillance system is primed. Make sure you’re ready to act on the signals that come in from that surveillance system. You’ve got to be set up to rapidly assess whether or not they really have those symptoms, test those people, and, if necessary, isolate and trace their contacts.

Here, again, is where I’ve seen things starting to break down. What I’ve been told is if you think you’ve been exposed and have a fever, call your [general practitioner]. We’ve got to be better than that. If we are going to use our GPs — do they have an emergency line where you can get through? Do they know what to do?

In China, they have set up a giant network of fever hospitals. In some areas, a team can go to you and swab you and have an answer for you in four to seven hours. But you’ve got to be set up — speed is everything.

throwing away my secret hopes this would finally be the disease one cures by eating cacio e pepe for every meal

beginning to wonder if I had this back at the beginning of February

please let us know if you progress to mid-wonder so we may divest all stock holdings

maybe you will know if you have it if you *don't* crave cacio e pepe.

oops now I crave cacio e pepe

i am going to make a mask of it to wear.

sorry guys I ruined SXSW, who wants cacio e pepe

Theres a case in Chile now, Yerac. In Talca tho, not Santiago

in the clear so far! no one will come looking for me. Maybe if i keep my blood alcohol content above a certain amount that will keep me sanitized from the inside.

just imagine. an entire case of cacio e pepe.

Yeah, no, sorry. Not gonna do "My Corona."

— Al Yankovic (@alyankovic) March 3, 2020

Joey Corona wept

xpost Presumably because he's working on his Steely Dan lampoon 'Covid-19'.

Our whole (tech) company is working from home on Friday, in preparation.

how many deaths am i willing to accept in exchange for the destruction of open-plan offices

probably just as well i don't get to decide

Given a) the advanced age/infirmity of an alarming number of my coworkers and b) our management's incredibly stupid mid-20th Century insistence that EVERYONE work in the actual office a certain number of days/week (or in the case of yrs truly all five of those days), I am 100% certain that my workplace will be m/l responsible for at least one death in the event that we get hit with this thing.

leadership continuing to tell us it's business as usual but considering my anxiety level I am probably just gonna work from fucking home tomorrow at least

12 of 30 first responders at the Kirkland nursing home have flu-like symptoms. Beast of a bug.

I will say ease of transmission is something that could use a little clarification from officials. I've seen it reported that it is actually harder to transmit than the regular flu, but I don't know if that is old information.

i'm not sure they actually know

i was under the impression it manifests as pneumonia? or was that only early reports.

While the USA refuses to test people because it's too expensive, in Spain they're retroactively testing people who died of pneumonia recently. They discovered the virus had arrived earlier than previously known. https://t.co/efeXYbmQaH

— It's a-me, Mario! (@Mario_Vilas) March 3, 2020

fuuuck

this isn't the disease to do it but later on in years we'll be the first nation to fall due to everybody dying due to livign not being cost effective

uh

every now and again lads, every now and again.....eesh

ilxors showing the strain of simultaneous election angst, pandemic angst, and economic crash angst. it can emerge as odd squeaks.