How will you vote in the Labour Leadership election?

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I was so surprised to receive the Labour leadership ballot I was entitled to that I became overwhelmed with a sense of conciliatory cross-party goodwill and accidentally voted for Lisa Nandy, with an A4 piece of paper with the words "real opposition" written on it as Deputy

Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 00:29 (four years ago) link

Sorry to break the news to you. Boris Johnson is racist. pic.twitter.com/UPE0Ixyhro

— (((Dawn Butler))) (@DawnButlerBrent) March 5, 2020

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 5 March 2020 10:18 (four years ago) link

I'm voting Dawn now, but only in my imagination. We have definitely crossed the being called a racist being more offensive than being a racist rubicon.

Load up your rubber wallets (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 March 2020 10:29 (four years ago) link

If my damn ballot ever comes through I’ll slam that 1st preference for both of us

median punt (gyac), Thursday, 5 March 2020 10:30 (four years ago) link

Love her, my ballot came through while I was away for the weekend so haven't cast my vote.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 5 March 2020 10:31 (four years ago) link

went for dawn! :)

nxd, Thursday, 5 March 2020 11:53 (four years ago) link

yeah given the polling I think I will go butler > burgon > rayner

ogmor, Thursday, 5 March 2020 11:56 (four years ago) link

Long-Bailey enjoyed a misspent youth in the early Noughties in Manchester, where she went clubbing four nights a week, had rainbow-dyed hair and a lower lip piercing, wore baggy trousers with a vest and was a “bit of a skater girl”, although she says: “I could only go in a straight line. [The board] was more of a prop to make me look cool.”

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/rebecca-longbailey-interview-labour-leadership-race-a4382071.html

ogmor, Monday, 9 March 2020 16:13 (four years ago) link

even more glad now of my vote

BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Monday, 9 March 2020 16:19 (four years ago) link

are you Not a member but: Starmer/Allin-Khan 1? I can't imagine you being in favour of either moshers or nandy, but mb I have you wrong

ogmor, Monday, 9 March 2020 16:24 (four years ago) link

My ballot still hasn’t come

Looks like I’m calling tomorrow >:(

gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Monday, 9 March 2020 16:27 (four years ago) link

Mine came ages ago but I'm deliberating

strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Monday, 9 March 2020 16:28 (four years ago) link

didn't realise RLB was a mosher, that might explain why she doesn't seem to know shit about The Fall!

calzino, Monday, 9 March 2020 16:29 (four years ago) link

Ballot’s here!

gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Monday, 9 March 2020 16:57 (four years ago) link

This right here is why I voted Starmer 2nd preference:

🎙️ Is it Islamophobic?

🗣️ It’s not for me to pronounce if it’s Islamophobic or not

🎙️ Why not?

Labour leadership candidate @lisanandy reacts to news ex-UK equality watchdog chief Trevor Phillips has been suspended from Labour over Islamophobia claimshttps://t.co/fO6OxEMO6Y pic.twitter.com/t6eJ1qlPVV

— Victoria Derbyshire (@VictoriaLIVE) March 10, 2020

gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Tuesday, 10 March 2020 13:36 (four years ago) link

Nah I’ve come back to this - Nandy doesn’t wanna call islamophobia what it is because she knows that a large section of the “legitimate concerns” coalition she’s built don’t think anti-muslim racism is real. She’s even referred to “debates in Islam” over what TP has said??? https://t.co/DpZDBs9XYd

— Jase (@jasebyjason) March 10, 2020

gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Tuesday, 10 March 2020 13:42 (four years ago) link

tbh is Starmer's lawyerly silence on T Phillips any fucking better? :p

calzino, Tuesday, 10 March 2020 13:54 (four years ago) link

ah RLB is doing the same!

calzino, Tuesday, 10 March 2020 13:56 (four years ago) link

what does the P in PLP stand for again ? erm pigeonhearted, pusillanimous...fuck this party!

calzino, Tuesday, 10 March 2020 13:59 (four years ago) link

There is a lot of talent here. What a waste.

The debate around identity and protecting gender rights is complicated. People deserve so much better than this kind of flippant disregard. pic.twitter.com/5LLZuIVsQt

— Lisa Nandy (@lisanandy) March 10, 2020

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 11 March 2020 09:14 (four years ago) link

sometimes she shows true potential and I really want to like her, it's just a shame she thought going back into that UKIP/legit concerns quagmire and a conservatively neoliberal approach to the economy was the correct route to take Labour into power.

calzino, Wednesday, 11 March 2020 10:00 (four years ago) link

She's right on gender self-ID but so were Theresa May and Penny Mordaunt. The bar isn't that low.

ShariVari, Wednesday, 11 March 2020 10:11 (four years ago) link

I thought it was now tbh!

calzino, Wednesday, 11 March 2020 10:12 (four years ago) link

in the personal sense I would probably much prefer her irl to that loathsome oily piece of shit Starmer!

calzino, Wednesday, 11 March 2020 10:15 (four years ago) link

she held herself genuinely impressively in that, and used a bit of humour well. shame about some of her policy stances as (as i've said above) ceteris paribus she is by far the most impressive of the three in debate or public speech

strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Wednesday, 11 March 2020 10:17 (four years ago) link

so long as Islamophobia isn't the issue at hand ;)

strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Wednesday, 11 March 2020 10:19 (four years ago) link

She was good on No Deal brinksmanship and coronavirus/the economy in the Guardian the other day as well, even if her approach would be seized upon by Cummings as continuing to try and frustrate Brexit etc it's probably a line that whoever wins needs to keep hammering in preparation for when everything goes wrong.

When they finally announce the winner no one outside the Labour Party will give a shit, the country hasn't exactly been riveted by the contest and people will have other things to worry about.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 11 March 2020 10:20 (four years ago) link

Starmer's humourless boring demeanour and sort of posh boss who everyone calls a wanker behind their back persona will be a major problem in the north for the Labour party, not just his voice or the Remoaner perception. I'm almost looking forward to seeing him getting hilariously brutalised by the opposition tbh. I know that is bad praxis, but I want the stupid membership to own their boy and reap what they have sown - the bunch of softy-lefty-melty fuckwits!

calzino, Wednesday, 11 March 2020 10:32 (four years ago) link

He’s a lot less posh than most of the media gatekeepers and right-wing arseholes (yes, overlapping Venn diagram) who would have to sell that line. Maybe his obvious lower middle class discomfort in certain circumstances is a positive? Will it get anywhere with the demographic of people with THIS FAMILY BELIEVES IN LOVE wall transfers in their kitchen extensions/women who call each other Hunni on FB/people who watch the One Show?

I’ve just started applying to adopt a whippetlurcher so I can’t wait to see what the rescue pages will make of the Dilyn situation. I can’t imagine it will go down well at all.

santa clause four (suzy), Wednesday, 11 March 2020 10:49 (four years ago) link

my soul is chilled by that glimpse into suzy's world of normies

ogmor, Wednesday, 11 March 2020 10:51 (four years ago) link

the writing fad needs more analysis imo, can't tell how much sheer stupidity is betrayed by getting so caught up on signifiers. someone bought us a teaspoon that has the word 'lovely' written vertically down the handle am i relatable now

ogmor, Wednesday, 11 March 2020 10:54 (four years ago) link

sort of posh boss who everyone calls a wanker behind their back persona

TBF this accounts for most of our recent Prime Ministers.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 11 March 2020 10:55 (four years ago) link

Nandy is probably just as posh as him, but did you see his humorous anecdote about valentine's night in Newcastle recently? It had all the hallmarks of a nauseating bore being who is used to being a boss figure and politely indulged by underlings that daren't tell him he's a complete wanker!

calzino, Wednesday, 11 March 2020 10:56 (four years ago) link

Sign up to a few pet rescue pages and suddenly these people are EVERYWHERE (and I forgot the ‘fleece, Crocs and shite tattoos’ grouping).

santa clause four (suzy), Wednesday, 11 March 2020 10:56 (four years ago) link

nandy's bg is posher than starmer's despite the fact she's tried to turn herself into the exotically northern townsperson the media like to see her as

ogmor, Wednesday, 11 March 2020 10:59 (four years ago) link

I know I'd read her common touch is quite a performance, but I'd be cool with that if she wasn't such a tory in disguise.
xps

May was more like the stern but (lol) fair boss who you don't fuck with because you know they have a vindictive streak. Starmer seems more ingenuous but just as charmless as well, type of boss who gets the basic minimum of respect.

calzino, Wednesday, 11 March 2020 11:03 (four years ago) link

the writing fad needs more analysis imo, can't tell how much sheer stupidity is betrayed by getting so caught up on signifiers. someone bought us a teaspoon that has the word 'lovely' written vertically down the handle am i relatable now


Start a thread, I have contributions to make! When we were looking at houses, the number of houses that featured Union Jack décor or stencilled “live laugh love” stuff was shocking. Genuinely prefer our messy mismatched house to any of that shite.

gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Wednesday, 11 March 2020 11:28 (four years ago) link

xp

Ms Nandy, Tory in disguise

gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Wednesday, 11 March 2020 11:29 (four years ago) link

When we were looking at houses, the number of houses that featured Union Jack décor

noticed a while ago how many airbnb places had Union Flag cushions - but properties on estate agents sites too. Keep Calm And Have A Cuppa type shit all over the walls too natch.

nashwan, Wednesday, 11 March 2020 11:38 (four years ago) link

tbf, this stuff spans quite a few social demographics and there are i am sure subtleties distinguishing between the cath kidston set and honest hardworking twee patriots

strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Wednesday, 11 March 2020 11:40 (four years ago) link

absolutely coating the walls in tat with 'love' and 'we believe in love' and 'omg love' and 'this is a house of love' = strong correlation with divorced mothers

strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Wednesday, 11 March 2020 11:43 (four years ago) link

Hahahahaha the direness of wall transfers is the one thing my mum and I agree on - she says she imagines the daddy of all interfamilial shouting matches going on with a wall transfer with FAMILY MEANS LOVE or similar lurking in the background.

HOWEVER I’ve had this waiting to be framed for ages, sort of undermining the wall transfer concept:

http://www.artnet.com/artists/christopher-wool-and-felix-gonzalez-torres/poster-untitled-xwP6-K_r8FAx3DVlAmpvQg2

santa clause four (suzy), Wednesday, 11 March 2020 11:44 (four years ago) link

They’re worth about a grand now, whoa!

santa clause four (suzy), Wednesday, 11 March 2020 11:45 (four years ago) link

We were due a new sneering at the little people thread.

Non, je ned raggette rien (onimo), Wednesday, 11 March 2020 11:46 (four years ago) link

Are the petty-bourgeois/boring middle-class types under discussion “the little people”?

gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Wednesday, 11 March 2020 11:47 (four years ago) link

this was on the wall of a house we looked round

https://i.imgur.com/SIQjFAS.jpg

ogmor, Wednesday, 11 March 2020 11:47 (four years ago) link

union jack cushions = working-class couples who've made some money & developed a pioneer spirit. sometimes these places are otherwise v good airbnbs

this is not sneering this is cool-headed analysis. the most egregious 'house of love' was my friend's mother who is a v v v high-powered city lawyer/pr type

strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Wednesday, 11 March 2020 11:47 (four years ago) link

i can only say fair play

ogmor, Wednesday, 11 March 2020 11:47 (four years ago) link

omg ogmor

strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Wednesday, 11 March 2020 11:48 (four years ago) link


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