Mutated?
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/03/04/coronavirus-chinese-scientists-identify-two-types-covid-19.html
― whistling (brownie), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 18:06 (four years ago) link
this... seems good?
The more aggressive type of virus was found to be prevalent in the early stages of the outbreak in Wuhan — the Chinese city where COVID-19 was first detected late last year.
But the frequency of this type of virus has since decreased from early January, the scientists said.
― sleeve, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 18:12 (four years ago) link
Yes it would seem like it but then:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/confirmed-coronavirus-death-rate-3-020009251.html
― whistling (brownie), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 18:16 (four years ago) link
Is this the first of these global flus/viruses to hit in the age of peak internet?
Is it ever.
― Load up your rubber wallets (Tom D.), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 18:26 (four years ago) link
if jamband music has taught us anything, the next mutation will be most intense
― latin hypercube in shitspace (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 18:37 (four years ago) link
Guys have we considered ILX might be infected
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 18:39 (four years ago) link
Every post might be contaminated
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 18:40 (four years ago) link
Cape of Good Hope might be a quarantine area
fret not
VP Pence: "The greatest concern is testing. I am pleased to report we have 2500 kits available that we will distribute. We approved a process that will allow testing at state and university laboratories."2500.— Yamiche Alcindor (@Yamiche) March 4, 2020
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 18:45 (four years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/nR0vims.gifFrom gisaid.org
Dozens of mutants found to date. ssRNA viruses have really shoddy replication. Most mutants wouldn't change behavior enough to be called a strain. And in large host populations, there's not much selective pressure to lower lethality. If some mutant arises that more transmissible, that would be favored (a branch that grows to dominate the phylogenetic tree).
― Save us, Covid19 (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 19:28 (four years ago) link
Coool. Cool cool cool. It's like the thing after the hurricane in PR where they had like twelve meals to hand out or whatever. Just the coolest.
I'm not going to be alarmist and say we're all gonna die but I'd say the majority of us in the US will contract this shit.
― Waifu-ed Around and Fell in Love (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 19:36 (four years ago) link
The clamour for testing kits seems misplaced. If you get a cough and a fever right now you should go home and stay there for a couple of weeks. If every person with those symptoms decided to go to the doctors to get tested that would actually be bad.
― frederik b. godt (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 19:43 (four years ago) link
My understanding is that symptoms in the vast majority of people are not usually bad, and that those that get it bad are in conspicuously at risk (for everything) groups, like 80-year olds.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 19:45 (four years ago) link
As far as I can tell, each of those testing "kits" above is a set of lab reagents required to do 500 to 1000 tests in individuals. So we're looking at ~1.25 million tests.
Given this bug is infectious in the nonsymptomatic, widespread testing of anyone whose suspicious they had contact is a really good idea. Providing some sense of security for the anxious, identifying those that need to self-quarantine and getting them under medical surveillance for contacts, permitting most society to continuing function.
Korea has done >90k tests to date, and is probably doing much better than otherwise for the effort. They just really got screwed by the Shincheonji cult situation.
― Save us, Covid19 (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 20:05 (four years ago) link
xpost I wouldn't call 80% a vast majority. A majority, sure, but not all that vast, especially given the numbers we're talking about.
― The fillyjonk who believed in pandemics (Lily Dale), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 20:12 (four years ago) link
80% is a vast majority
― frederik b. godt (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 20:14 (four years ago) link
4/5
― frederik b. godt (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 20:15 (four years ago) link
https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_1600/k56uryal1yejdimkk8mf.jpg
― frogbs, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 20:22 (four years ago) link
I mean... it depends what you're talking about. If you win an election with 80% of the vote, yes, it's a vast majority. If you're talking about rates of severe illness requiring hospitalization, in a population where a lot of people are going to get the virus, 20% of illnesses being severe seems pretty significant.
― The fillyjonk who believed in pandemics (Lily Dale), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 20:23 (four years ago) link
I know everyone here is taking this seriously, I'm just getting really frustrated with being in Seattle and having people around me downplay this.
― The fillyjonk who believed in pandemics (Lily Dale), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 20:24 (four years ago) link
I feel like the prediction (mentioned by someone way upthread) that this will eventually become like the flu, sort of an ongoing and omnipresent risk that many people get at some point in life (but that we develop reliable treatments and periodically-administered vaccines for), is probably sound.
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 20:31 (four years ago) link
My thinking also.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 21:48 (four years ago) link
Maybe washing my hands with habanero seeds would be effective aversion training. BRB.
― Save us, Covid19 (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 21:48 (four years ago) link
Its weird, I'd started to get myself into the "wash hands often, especially just after public transport use, and STOP TIOUCHING YR FACE" like a year ago, because I was tired of getting colds - and it worked pretty well too, so I'm already in good habits but now I also have severe eczema on my hands :(
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 21:52 (four years ago) link
Guessing we'll see a lot fewer "Kiss Me - I'm Irish" t-shirts at St. Patty's Day parades this year.
― henry s, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 22:05 (four years ago) link
"Kiss Me; I'm Virus Free."
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 22:06 (four years ago) link
"Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me; Your Tongue's Like Poison"
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 22:08 (four years ago) link
Oh shit, have you ever touched hot peppers with your bare hands? It hurts! Ironically enough, one of the few things to make it feel better is rubbing alcohol, so not only will you not touch your eyes or face (more than once), you'll be constantly disinfecting your paws.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 22:10 (four years ago) link
Public Health Seattle & King County has issued guidance that all employees should work from home if they are able.
― Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 23:01 (four years ago) link
xp. umm, no it doesn't hurt?
― frederik b. godt (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 23:02 (four years ago) link
unless you have cuts on your hand or like eczema or something
i used to be obsessed with putting fresh hot peppers on everything. I had to stop because I wear contacts and you also can't get busy as often.
― Yerac, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 23:18 (four years ago) link
Thanks, silby, I sent that to my housemates. Maybe this will help persuade the holdouts to start taking it seriously.
― The fillyjonk who believed in pandemics (Lily Dale), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 23:28 (four years ago) link
It totally hurts! Not, like, handling them whole, but cutting them? Absolutely!
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 23:32 (four years ago) link
pepper empathy
― latin hypercube in shitspace (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 23:33 (four years ago) link
poor little guys
― latin hypercube in shitspace (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 23:34 (four years ago) link
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/all-we-can-eat/post/should-you-wear-gloves-while-handling-hot-peppers/2012/10/30/de6134b2-22d7-11e2-ac85-e669876c6a24_blog.html
Coon said she once had students helping her harvest super-hot peppers, including the Bhut Jolokia (or ghost pepper) and the hottest of all chilies, the Trinidad Moruga Scorpion, which averages 1.2 million Scoville heat units. They were all wearing surgical latex gloves.“Within 20 minutes, everyone’s hands were burning,” she says. “It was a little miserable harvesting that stuff.”Coon’s story supports some online anecdotes that make the same claim: Wearing latex gloves while handling super-hot peppers is not enough. The capsaicin will burn right through the latex. This About.com writer suggests wearing rubber dishwashing gloves, which might protect your hands but, I suspect, would make handling peppers akin to trying to deal blackjack with astronaut’s gloves on. A gardening forum suggests nitrile gloves, the kind used for medical examinations and oil changes.
“Within 20 minutes, everyone’s hands were burning,” she says. “It was a little miserable harvesting that stuff.”
Coon’s story supports some online anecdotes that make the same claim: Wearing latex gloves while handling super-hot peppers is not enough. The capsaicin will burn right through the latex. This About.com writer suggests wearing rubber dishwashing gloves, which might protect your hands but, I suspect, would make handling peppers akin to trying to deal blackjack with astronaut’s gloves on. A gardening forum suggests nitrile gloves, the kind used for medical examinations and oil changes.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 23:34 (four years ago) link
wait it doesn't "burn right through the latex"
― latin hypercube in shitspace (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 23:35 (four years ago) link
also. the eventual plan is to put that shit in your mouth, right?
― latin hypercube in shitspace (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 23:36 (four years ago) link
Yeah, and when you do it hurts! But imo the burn I got on my hands from habeneros felt more like a, well, burn.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 23:38 (four years ago) link
Anybody else visually creeped out by the coronavirus "avatar"? I just did a double-take at a dragonfruit display at Whole Foods.
― henry s, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 23:39 (four years ago) link
yeah, it's too much work to wear gloves if it's just one pepper at a time. but you really feel it later when you accidentally scratch or stick your finger in your eye.
― Yerac, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 23:40 (four years ago) link
or take a pee
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 23:53 (four years ago) link
I have a great story about making ghost pepper salsa I should share sometime
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 5 March 2020 00:22 (four years ago) link
I use nitrile gloves to cut anything hotter than a jalapeño now
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 5 March 2020 00:23 (four years ago) link
I can imagine that ghost peppers are a whole different story. I was thinking about chopping up say scotch bonnet or something never burned my hands.
have had some very bad experiences with chili tainted hands, which belong in ILTMI
― frederik b. godt (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 5 March 2020 00:28 (four years ago) link
we might've had a case in clinic today
― gbx, Thursday, 5 March 2020 01:12 (four years ago) link
i watched a cbs news clip on youtube about this poor guy in new rochelle who spread it to his family and neighbors and they put his name and photo in the story? wtf. i'm beginning to accept i'm just going to get it. i'm reading the internet too much. i work with numerous diverse members of the public every day, and by the time they close my job for the emergency it'll be too late. my bf does too, even worse. he's not gonna know he has it and he'll give it to me. good luck usa
― forensic plumber (harbl), Thursday, 5 March 2020 01:54 (four years ago) link
also can you guys believe it's been 12 years since lj posted "good luck usa" on an election thread for barack obama and i'm still saying it? what a disaster
― forensic plumber (harbl), Thursday, 5 March 2020 01:56 (four years ago) link
i'm also pretty resigned to getting it, tbh. i work in healthcare (granted, not the sector of it most at risk to exposure, but still) and spend all day with strangers.
― gbx, Thursday, 5 March 2020 02:04 (four years ago) link