outbreak! (ebola, sars, coronavirus, etc)

can’t believe it’s been 12 years since that slag slammed good luck USA into an american election. still freaks my nut out to this day

I went to an awards ceremony last night in Central London and the woman I was sitting next to (a colleague) now has a fever. Sitting on her other side? Zoe Ball! Let's see how breakfast goes on Radio 2....

Trump calls it “corona flu” and suggests it’s ok to go to work if you catch it

Here is the President of the United States telling the country it's okay to go to work with Coronavirus.

I'm not kidding. pic.twitter.com/Tz4kKbyear

— Matt Rogers 🎙 (@Politidope) March 5, 2020

he doesn't actually say that though

Trump is speaking at HIMSS 2020 in Orlando next week (the Healthcare Information and Management Systems Society conference). The attendance list is an endless parade of awful people: https://www.himssconference.org

More on it:
https://www.healthleadersmedia.com/innovation/coronavirus-wont-knock-out-himss-20-trump-speak

Companies are cancelling from it:
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/03/amazon-intel-cisco-salesforce-back-out-of-himss-due-to-coronavirus.html

I think all the tech companies have wussed out of SXSW. Amazon, Apple, Netflix, TikTok (lol), Facebook, Twitter ...

talk to me when universal and warner back out lol

Has anyone else been making a mental list of a-list older people who might not be in the best of health?

Trump
Biden
Sanders
The Queen
Prince Phil
Rupert Murdoch

and so on

because if there's a decent chance one or more will succumb then this will be an even bigger deal

I'm not suggesting we do a poll

are you sure

i don't understand this. i think viruses in general are able to survive on surfaces for a number of hours, so why would a food surface be different?. . .

https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2020/03/experts-say-coronavirus-likely-not-spread-by-foodborne-routes/?fbclid=IwAR1lr453SAMzoYgHvZaNK7jdszpPW6ytqyLvo3LOb9kJSdAYjJfNDzSvxgI

the pope took ill after visiting the sick in italy just last week

yeah, the Pope is one for sure. hope he doesn't die as the next one will probably be another nazi weirdo

xpost If you're talking about food that has been sitting out for a few hours, then sure, but that's true all the time. I think it takes 2 hours for significant levels of bacteria to start popping up. But cooked food, out of the oven? Heat kills a lot of viruses, including the flu, so it likely kills this one as well.

was talking about viruses, not bacteria. and was thinking about uncooked foods like sandwiches, and potentially hazardous foods like chopped tomatoes, deli meats, cheeses, and whatnot

I think it takes 2 hours for significant levels of bacteria to start popping up

this is generally true, but Listeria is a psychrophile

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/coronavirus-patient-worked-shift-in-emergency-department-in-west-of-ireland-1.4193756

great!

I'd hope that an A&E worker would naturally be doing the various things that would keep them from transmitting the virus, but I may just be talking shite there.

There are suggestions that schools and universities may open up again fully in China at the start of May and that the government is reasonably confident they're over the worst of it now.

Has anyone else been making a mental list of a-list older people who might not be in the best of health?

Trump
Biden
Sanders
The Queen
Prince Phil
Rupert Murdoch

... Harvey Weinstein

weinstein isn't on the a-list any more, he's now on a much less prestigious list

Last picture I saw of him he definitely appeared to be listing.

Some spine:

"We are concerned that in some countries the level of political commitment and the actions that demonstrate that commitment do not match the level of the threat we all face”, says @DrTedros. (Feels like an escalation in rhetoric to me.)

— Kai Kupferschmidt (@kakape) March 5, 2020

xp outdoor miner:

There hasn't been the published work on SARSCoV-2 that there is for SARS, but even mild heat in cooked food inactivates SARS. I wouldn't be surprised if transmission by food kept cold for extended periods (salads, desserts...) was possible.

Duan et al, 2003. Stability of SARS coronavirus in human specimens and environment and its sensitivity to heating and UV irradiation. Biomed env sci, 16(3), pp.246-255.

Viruses stayed stable at 4 °C, at room temperature (20 °C) and at 37 °C for at least 2 h without remarkable change in the infectious ability in cells, but were converted to be non-infectious after 90-, 60- and 30-min exposure at 56 °C, at 67 °C and at 75 °C, respectively.

A top State Department official warned Thursday that Russia is behind “swarms of online, false personas” seeking to spread misinformation about the novel coronavirus on social media sites, stressing that the “entire ecosystem of Russian disinformation is at play.”

Now, see, this is what we mean by "you can't have it both ways, you fucking hoax-claiming assholes."

There's an obvious Russian troll who keeps popping up on the NYtimes comment section claiming to be a "Professor of Medical Genetics" and telling everyone that the "coronavirus flu" has been around for years and is nbd. I keep flagging his posts and the Times moderator keeps letting them through.

NYT comment moderation is like Kinja moderation in the gawkersphere: they'll get to it someday, maybe, probably not

It's weird, though, because they take a really long time to let comments through. So what exactly are they doing?

i assume they're processing commenter metadata with a third party so that later in the day i can get a targeted instagram ad that somehow manages to reference something i made in the comment

they mail the comments to a certain fellow who has an ex-wife in some place called Mayors Income, Tennessee

There are suggestions that schools and universities may open up again fully in China at the start of May and that the government is reasonably confident they're over the worst of it now.

So by effectively shutting down entire cities they might get over this in a 6-month window. It's hard to imagine the UK being similarly aggressive. Maybe it will all be over by Brexit.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ESUMluDWsAUQ6E1?format=jpg&name=medium

stealing

heh, i wrote myself a little song i sing that's mostly just "we're all gonna die" to the tune of happy birthday twice

has anyone posted the out out damn spot vers. yet?

Gotta pick your poison, I’m a “this is the water, and this is the well” man

I was thinking that was William Burroughs at first (remembering the "Soul Killer" track from that Laswell Seven Souls album), and googling it just now I see it's Frank Herbert from Dune. Probably should watch Lynch's version at some point, or read it.

I still read it in Burroughs' voice, though.

ordered a Knoll chair to enhance my working-from-home ergonomics (currently terrible due to bad ikea chair)

On the recommendation in John Meyer's The Great Influenza, am now starting into Katherine Anne Porter's Pale Horse, Pale Rider (1936).

Meyer describes the novella as the only piece of great literature to arise from the 1918 pandemic. Robert Penn Warren describes it as "top level...of the world’s short novels". I'd never heard of it.

talk to me when universal and warner back out lol

FWIW,
https://variety.com/2020/biz/news/warnermedia-exits-sxsw-2020-coronavirus-1203524867/
https://www.billboard.com/articles/business/record-labels/9327781/record-labels-travel-coronavirus

coworker's young son admitted to the hospital with all the symptoms. could be just normal flu but i'm sure they are freaking out.

BREAKING: By a 20-point margin, Americans say Trump’s handling of the Coronavirus makes them less likely to vote for him.https://t.co/TCyz7frXKx

— Andy Slavitt (@ASlavitt) March 5, 2020

^too soon to make a real difference in November. just another pebble on the heap that will weigh against him.

by a 43-point margin, americans will completely forget about this in November unless it directly affects them and they get sick

incompetence makes that more likely:

I just got back from an international business trip. In the last two weeks my travels had me visiting Milan, Italy, Singapore, and Malaysia before ending in Dubai, from which I was banned to travel to either Bahrain or Saudi Arabia because of my recent travel history.

In each of those stops, except Dubai, I had my temperature screened before entering. I was explicitly asked whether I had been to China. The disease’s presence went from background to foreground as it ended up cutting my trip short when KSA and Bahrain denied entry.

I wondered what would happen when I returned to the USA? Yesterday I found out: nothing. I got off the plane and there were no thermal testing centers. Not one of the DHS officials were wearing masks or gloves, there were no signs up or announcements about disease concerns. I use GOES and that scans my picture page, asks me a perfunctory set of non-changing question that do not include anything about COVID-19, and then I hand the receipt to an ungloved, unmasked official who did not review the entry/exit visas in my passport.

I could have just as easily been coming back from a Disaster-Porn photoshoot of Wuhan and it wouldn’t have mattered one bit. Now I’m free to roam about the country. I’m healthy and I really doubt I’m a carrier, but do we know this is going to be the case of everyone coming in? If the government were more interested in actually doing their jobs rather than managing a good press image I’d feel better about the next few months ahead.

^too soon to make a real difference in November. just another pebble on the heap that will weigh against him.

― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, March 5, 2020 4:34 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

experts say the 'vid is gonna make a comeback in the fall.

if we're lucky and it goes away before then

What percentage of Americans hope Trump gets covid? 60%?

xps:
ATM, the scary convention is the Emerald City Comic Con, March 12-14 in Seattle. 2019's drew 98,000.

.@NationalNurses President Deborah Burger reads a public statement from one of our quarantined #nurses who works at a northern California Kaiser facility.

Full statement ➡️ https://t.co/YjTAvAXTRX#COVID19 @WorksafeCA pic.twitter.com/pSZ1ghCB2k

— Bonnie Castillo (@NNUBonnie) March 5, 2020

REading the replies to that tweet is startling. It seems like some americans are determined to treat this like a hoax or flat earth conspiracy wtf :/