Are those lyrics
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 March 2020 22:32 (four years ago) link
you know what I'm talkin about
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 5 March 2020 22:32 (four years ago) link
lol
― tylerw, Thursday, 5 March 2020 22:34 (four years ago) link
xp I think Band of the Hand is a couple years later like 85/86, but he definitely kept up that fire and brimstone vibe. In fact, a lot of the apocalyptic blues stuff in the late 90s and early 2000s like "Cold Irons Bound", "Tweedly Dee and Tweedly Dum", and "High Water", and even the movie "Masked and Anonymous" are the descendants of the christian period with a lot more humor.
― Biden my time/Drinking her wine (PBKR), Thursday, 5 March 2020 22:36 (four years ago) link
"Masked and Anonymous" is underrated
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 5 March 2020 22:37 (four years ago) link
it's pretty stupid but there's some really good stuff in there
Re: "Slow Train," the verse in question wasn't just putting across a dubious argument, it framed it in a way that came off as pretty jingoistic, and when I go back to it after listening to the whole album, it feels offensively intolerant. (This is placed in context with what else was being said throughout the album: "you either got faith or you got unbelief / and there's no neutral ground," "you were tellin' him about Mohammed in one breath / You never mentioned one time the Man who came / And died a criminal's death," and on and on...)
I find nothing interesting or compelling about the "you non-believers are all going to hell" screeds - the few songs I do like from this period aren't like that at all, and they're great, complex spirituals, but the rest is just puerile.
― birdistheword, Thursday, 5 March 2020 23:37 (four years ago) link
eh I love lots of "you nonbelievers are going to hell" music. Tons of reggae, the Louvin Brothers, etc. Thinking of this in the context of Dylan's earlier folk "finger-pointing" songs is appropriate imo.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 5 March 2020 23:40 (four years ago) link
I don't know what anyone's access is like to CD retailers is these days, but the Infidels remaster has been a budget CD ($5-7) for years now.
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 5 March 2020 23:47 (four years ago) link
I feel like Infidels is a used record store staple, unless it was unusually popular in Minnesota
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 5 March 2020 23:50 (four years ago) link
what's a CD
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 5 March 2020 23:51 (four years ago) link
it's a compact disc :)underrated format!
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 5 March 2020 23:52 (four years ago) link
The Future of Music!
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 5 March 2020 23:54 (four years ago) link
Christian Dominance
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 5 March 2020 23:55 (four years ago) link
Calvinist Dylan
― Load up your rubber wallets (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 March 2020 23:55 (four years ago) link
infidels is nice on CD — you really get that crisp knopfler sound. sly + robbie bringing the bounce.
― tylerw, Thursday, 5 March 2020 23:57 (four years ago) link
― Webcam Du Bois (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 5 March 2020 23:58 (four years ago) link
zing touched again
― Webcam Du Bois (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 5 March 2020 23:59 (four years ago) link
Yeah, I know "Dylanologists" well say they're in the great tradition of his 'finger-pointin'' songs from the '60s, like it's hearing a Born Again "Positively Fourth Street," but they don't have the wit or sharp humor to make the comparison any more than superficial. I tried to like them, but a lot of times they just sound like sour haranguing.
RE: "Infidels," if you took out some of the worst songs (maybe the ones with the bizarre crackpot lyrics on the evils of space travel) and replaced them with better outtakes like "Blind Willie McTell," "Foot of Pride," etc. it would be an excellent album.
― birdistheword, Friday, 6 March 2020 00:02 (four years ago) link
I'm sorry, but if you can't find humor in Dylan's christian songs . . .
Shakes, if you like going to hell stuff, check out Dylan's between song rants/sermons from his christian period on youtube. Like this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75_ceACC7-o
Dylan: [rambling story about the Antichrist.]Combative Audience Member: "Rock and roll!"Dylan: "You can go down and rock and roll. You can go see KISS. You can rock and roll your way all the way down to the PIT!"
Followed by Dylan asking for the house lights to be brought up so he can see the people heckling him. It's just like Dylan with the Hawks in 66 except Jesus is his backing band.
― Biden my time/Drinking her wine (PBKR), Friday, 6 March 2020 01:57 (four years ago) link
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3p37uv
The above one is great. Rambling story in which Dylan compares biblical prophecy to the recent Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, during which Dylan cites a list of great philosophers such as "Plato . . . who else now . . . Jimmy Reed? . . . Nietzsche . . . ." Then the band tears into the best version of Solid Rock ever, almost heavy metal.
― Biden my time/Drinking her wine (PBKR), Friday, 6 March 2020 02:10 (four years ago) link
Or maybe it just ain't funny, but comedy's subjective. I'm sure "Man Gave Names to All the Animals" is a riot with plenty of people.
― birdistheword, Friday, 6 March 2020 02:13 (four years ago) link
I grew up in the 70s and early 80s in a non-denominational evangelical church that was a lot like this. Most of the members of the church (including my parents) were ex-hippies who came to the Church in a type of rejection of the excesses of the 60s.
Yeah, me too. This wikipedia page about Lonnie Frisbee talks about the genesis of that movement, which had its epicenter in Southern California. Dylan's gospel period always seemed completely if not normal then at least not weird, because I grew up hearing people talk like that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lonnie_Frisbee
― o. nate, Friday, 6 March 2020 02:15 (four years ago) link
That song is a great childrens song
I think sour hectoring is a fair assessment and hey sonetimes thats what I want tbh
― Οὖτις, Friday, 6 March 2020 02:16 (four years ago) link
Xps
― Οὖτις, Friday, 6 March 2020 02:17 (four years ago) link
Oh man great links PBKR! Thx
Lonnie Frisbee, another real life Pynchon name
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 6 March 2020 02:18 (four years ago) link
Lol yes
― Οὖτις, Friday, 6 March 2020 02:25 (four years ago) link
― Biden my time/Drinking her wine (PBKR)
the hawks in '66 rocked harder than christ ever did
― Kate (rushomancy), Friday, 6 March 2020 03:26 (four years ago) link
https://frinkiac.com/meme/S08E17/145494/m/QUxMIFRIRSBCRVNUIEJBTkRTCiBBUkUgQUZGSUxJQVRFRCBXSVRICiBTQVRBTi4=
― birdistheword, Friday, 6 March 2020 03:32 (four years ago) link
https://frinkiac.com/meme/S08E17/145494.jpg
― birdistheword, Friday, 6 March 2020 03:34 (four years ago) link
Apologies, is there any way to delete my last two posts? I'm still new at this and completely botched a post that's no longer worth posting.
― birdistheword, Friday, 6 March 2020 03:35 (four years ago) link
wow thanks for the tip on the Sinéad cover of "I Believe In You", that's a devastating performance. it also appears on some kind of maxi-single for "Thank You For Hearing Me" from 1994, along with a remix of "Fire On Babylon" that's making my hair stand up.
― Joey Corona (Euler), Friday, 6 March 2020 16:13 (four years ago) link
Listening to O'Connor cover now.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 6 March 2020 16:13 (four years ago) link
Lots of otm 2019-20 posts (as I said at some length on Rolling Bootleg Series, I think another ilox's "cocaine dreams" sums up a lot of the giantor box sampler, despite frequent musical excellence). Re gay, he mentioned still hanging out with Ginsberg, and when interviewer asked how he squared that, replied to the effect that no prob (think he might be into Personal Priesthood Principle, like it's up to *you* to Choose---but might be projecting my own pre-Moral Majority experience as Southern Baptist)(It's still a thing with at least some of them; not all churches are in the Convention, which itself currently tries not to issue so many Assholy statements, having driven so many congregants away).
― dow, Sunday, 8 March 2020 21:56 (four years ago) link
*gigantor* box sampler
― dow, Sunday, 8 March 2020 21:57 (four years ago) link
Something like individual gays, old friends etc. no prob, but as political masses, uh-oh (am reminded of Delany recalling a pre-Stonewall bust, down by the trucks---so many guys came swarming out, that even he got scared, and he was one of 'em).
― dow, Sunday, 8 March 2020 22:01 (four years ago) link
My band is actually working up a version of “Man Gave Names...” It’s not a song we find stupid, or funny or whatever. We just like it.
― A perfect transcript of a routine post (Dan Peterson), Monday, 9 March 2020 00:30 (four years ago) link
Cool, please post at some point. For some dark reason, my computer will no longer let me post YouTubes, buthere's this round-up (it's also on spotify, apple, play)https://www.google.com/search?q=Townes+Van+Zandt+Man+Gave+Names+To+All+The+Animals&oq=Townes+Van+Zandt+Man+Gave+Names+To+All+The+Animals&aqs=chrome..69i57.31557j0j1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
― dow, Monday, 9 March 2020 01:32 (four years ago) link
shot of love may be the best one of these, and i love them all! "property of jesus," what a jam!!!!
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 23:00 (four years ago) link
eh idk if it's the *best*... I mean, it has Lenny Bruce on it
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 17 March 2020 23:01 (four years ago) link
count me among the few weirdos who likes "lenny bruce." the lyric is.... yeah, but the arrangement feels kinda proto-paul westerberg solo somehow
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 23:25 (four years ago) link
trouble no more is, forgive me, a revelation
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 19 March 2020 14:43 (four years ago) link
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson),
Pleasantly ephemeral -- I like the gutbucket mix. "Every Grain of Sand" and "in the Summertime" though.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 March 2020 14:47 (four years ago) link
"every grain of sand" has been one of my fav dylan songs ever since i heard emmylou harris' cover, i was happy to love his version. "in the summertime" is amazing. heavy van morrison energy to these records (i guess it's all the gospel?)
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 19 March 2020 14:50 (four years ago) link
supposedly there's a Clash version of "In the Summertime" with a howling Joe Strummer plonking away on the piano
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 March 2020 14:54 (four years ago) link
I mixed this down to a wieldy 4hrs w/ segues and some other odds-and-ends, it never leaves my phone
hmu anybody if you would like!
https://i.imgur.com/zqquwMw.jpg
1 Ain't No Man Righteous, No Not One Take 62 When He Returns Take 23 Slow Train Toronto April 18-19 19804 Dead Man, Dead Man Outtake5 Making a Liar Out of Me Rehearsal6 Are You Ready? Toronto April 18-19 19807 Ain't Gonna Go to Hell for Anybody Toronto April 18-19 19808 Watered-Down Love Outtake9 When You Gonna Wake Up? Oslo, July 910 You Changed My Life Take 411 Do Right To Me Baby Toronto April 18-19 198012 Cover Down, Pray Through Toronto April 18-19 198013 Stand By Faith Rehearsal14 Gotta Serve Somebody Bad Segeberg [July 15]15 In the Summertime Boston [October 21]16 Groom's Still Waiting at the Altar Take 217 Precious Angel Toronto April 18-19 198018 Solid Rock Toronto April 18-19 198019 I Believe in You Toronto April 18-19 198020 Shot of Love Outtake21 City of Gold San Francisco, CA, November 2222 Gonna Change My Way of Thinking Memphis [January 31]23 What Can I Do For You? Toronto April 18-19 198024 Man Gave Names To All The Animals London, June 2725 Slow Train London [June 29]26 Caribbean Wind Rehearsal (pedal Steel)27 Jesus Is The One Lorelei, Germany, July 1728 Rise Again Rehearsal29 Knockin' On Heaven's Door London, June 2730 Saving Grace Toronto April 18-1931 Radio Spot Portland, January 198032 Blowin' In The Wind London, June 2733 Gotta Serve Somebody London, June 2734 When He Returns Toronto April 18-1935 Thief On The Cross New Orleans, LA, November 1036 Covenant Woman Take 337 Dead Man, Dead Man London, June 27, 198138 Trouble in Mind Take 139 Pressing On Take 140 Blessed Is The Name Santa Monica [November 20]41 Groom's Still Waiting at the Altar San Francisco [November 13]42 Solid Rock San Diego [November 1981]/Philadelphia [October 1979]43 I Believe In You London, June 2744 Ballad of a Thin Man London, June 2745 Shot of Love Avignon [July 25]46 Help Me Understand Soundcheck47 Caribbean Wind San Francisco [November 12]48 Ye Shall Be Changed Outtake49 Every Grain of Sand Rehearsal50 Slow Train San Francisco [November 16]51 Gotta Serve Somebody Take 152 Band Introduction London, June 27, 198153 Like a Rolling Stone London, June 27, 198154 Pressing On Toronto April 18-19
― Webcam Du Bois (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 19 March 2020 15:10 (four years ago) link
Pressing On is my jam
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 19 March 2020 15:17 (four years ago) link
also one of the few songs from this period where I actually think the album version is the best one
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 19 March 2020 15:18 (four years ago) link
Trouble No More is the perfect soundtrack to these times. "When you gonna wake up?"
― Why, I would make a fantastic Nero! (PBKR), Thursday, 19 March 2020 23:32 (four years ago) link