END TO END BERNERS: The Official Bernie Sanders 2020 Crew thread

Crushing, just crushing. Warren may not have won many delegates but she definitely ran the table with the most insufferably high-handed ILXors.

I am actually sort of impressed that you would call anyone else “insufferably high-handed” but I guess self-awareness is a trait that doesn’t pop up much in the Bernout demo

Liz has been explicit in identifying as a capitalist seeking to protect capital from its own excesses. She's literally just a Keynesian liberal. Calling her 'progressive' is just obfuscating. Positioning her as an ally to Bernie is naive. They have fundamentally different goals.

— BernBot #33 (@57ankhs) March 7, 2020

the important thing for all of Bernie's supporters to remember is that, no matter what you say on the internet or who you say it to, if that person doesn't know you there are no consequences, nope, not ever, it's like you never said it and nothing ever comes of it.

― A is for (Aimless), Saturday, March 7, 2020 3:59 PM (one hour ago)

how many of those ppl in my last link did Biden denounce?

while very little that is said by Bernie's supporters on ilx about Warren is directly abusive toward her, the level of expressed entitlement ... was remarkably prominent.

if it's really this prominent, you could list all the Bernie supporters on ILX in one column and then the... two or three of them? who have been angry at Warren about not dropping out five days ago in another column, so we can all see what proportion qualifies as prominent

Just wanna say that I've been enjoying milo z's posts and think he's been getting a lot of undeserved flack in these discussions.

Just wanna say that I've been enjoying milo z's posts and think he's been getting a lot of undeserved flack in these discussions.

Other than posts which tell other people not to post (which are easy enough to tune out) I've got some value from almost everyone's posts!

xxxp

i'd actually strongly disagree with that. despite sanders' revolutionary rhetoric and talk of socialism, the social democratic policies he advocates for are ultimately about reforming capitalism and restraining its excesses. i don't think it's wrong to call warren a 'progressive' either.

1973 Bernie was 100% cooler than 2020 Bernie politically.

There was the Trot dalliance in the early '80s but whomst among us has not had a lost weekend

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_Y41LbpBOM

I’m kind of a bit shocked that a couple of posts about the antisemitism Bernie’s facing segued into the usual will-you-condemn horseshit almost immediately, but I probably shouldn’t be.

The absolute horrific thing about the swastika at the rally is that it appeared a few hours after Bernie posted a video talking about how he’d be proud to be the first Jewish president, a video where young Jewish supporters said how much he meant to them. I’m not sure that video was linked but here it is again:

I would be very proud to be the first Jewish president. Together, we will counter the hatred and bigotry of the Trump administration. Thank you @jewsforbernie for standing with us. pic.twitter.com/dznfwQEYsU

— Bernie Sanders (@BernieSanders) March 5, 2020

As someone whose family was wiped out by Hitler and as an American, to have in this country somebody bringing forth the most detestable symbol in modern history is unspeakable. pic.twitter.com/0TySmmxhgh

— Bernie Sanders (@BernieSanders) March 6, 2020

Warren is of course free to do whatever she wants and she is under no obligation to anyone. But it's fair to doubt her commitment to her stated principles if she declines to help elect the last remaining presidential candidate with whom she shares a LOT of very difficult-to-accomplish goals just because some people who weren't him were mean on the internet.

xp

― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, March 6, 2020 8:54 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

you guys all saw the handshake video, right? Warren was genuinely pissed. Don't think there's any reason to believe they've made peace since

yes but snake emojis

i don't think it's wrong to call warren a 'progressive' either.

Warren and Sanders are both moderates.

xp

you guys all saw the handshake video, right? Warren was genuinely pissed. Don't think there's any reason to believe they've made peace since

they marched arm in arm 36 hours later

xps i seem to recall them saying some irenic-sounding things after that point (i mean more than immediately after)

It's cool that NOW discouraged a Bernie endorsement in favor of benefitting this guy

BREAKING: unearthed clip of Biden from 2006 on abortion:

“I do not view abortion as a choice and a right. ... We should focus on how to limit the number of abortions, and there ought to be common ground and consensus about how to do that.” #NoMiddleGround #NotMeUs pic.twitter.com/c3YnargnfZ

— 29 U.S.C. § 157 (@OrganizingPower) June 13, 2019

I’m kind of a bit shocked that a couple of posts about the antisemitism Bernie’s facing segued into the usual will-you-condemn horseshit almost immediately

🤔🤔

if Klobuchar is the VP nominee, we can have the most anti-choice ticket in our lifetimes and Democrats can lose Alabama 57-40 instead of 59-38.

xp it’s grim all the way down. The Biden surrogate who was disgusting to Nina Turner’s face was up there as well.

xxp !!! Just so blatant!

This is a Biden delegate, forced to resign from Pennsylvania Democrats 3 weeks ago, but still on the Biden payroll

She went on *the Ben Shapiro Show* to complain about the "vicious" Berniebros (she was fired over antisemitism + spreading a doctored video. But sure, Mean Tweets!) pic.twitter.com/yXyeWU8PLZ

— Tommy 'Elena' Kombuchar (@ThomasIsOnline) March 7, 2020

https://66.media.tumblr.com/7af1e1930585a6076ae3f5cbabcf1e4e/a99bf47232ae82fd-7a/s500x750/afdd749ea28f27e63630c83aaf8fcd6431a55e2c.png

Forget it gyac, it's Bidentown...

tbh we should all log off for 2-20 days

i will never log off for 2-20 days

The evidence that it's Pete seems rather faith-based?

feel like a lot of Warren folks are trying to justify the reason they’re voting for Joe in the primary and it’s just like, do it already. you don’t have to keep yelling on the internet about it. Isn’t that what this all about anyway? Yelling on the internet?

Another Warren campaign worker chimed in about how it was Pete's campaign.

Great!

...link?

justify the reason they’re their voting vote for

We should be able to find out in 2-20 days time

some it's that, for the people who've already voted I think it's the bargaining phase where they're psyching themselves up to believe they'll eventually be making a vote beyond "anybody but Trump," others are just LARPing campaign consultants

You're internet savvy, I bet you can find it. Or you don't really care, so whatevs!

You're internet savvy, I bet you can find it.

I don't think this is good Milo! I'm not a fan of posting tweets from minor randoms as evidence of any particular stance, and unattributed stuff isn't good either. There's been plenty of that pointed in this direction, doing it in return I think is a mistake

Saturday is canvass day. There’s a bunch of Oregon canvass groups starting in the morning, but I’m debating which one to join because some are heading up to Washington State in the late afternoon. Back-to-back canvass runs with some downtime or a nap can be rough.

Without some downtime, rather

I'm also not a fan of post-policing and I've just wandered right into it. I may need to report myself to the relevant authorities!

How are you finding canvassing (if you can say?)

xxxp - It's found in the responses to that tweet that he had to click on in the first place.

I can find the one they're all pointing at, it doesn't say that unless you reallllly squint - but it's enough that "it's Pete" can become the narrative and people can really unroll their ids for stuff like this:

people are this good at putting on a front of civility until they no longer have to are fucking psychopaths and objectively worse than anything Bernie surrogates are constantly smeared as

— champagne papi socialist 🐐 💯 (@deepstatekush) March 7, 2020

Wow apparently you can flag post yourself I just tried it!

Keep looking, it's on the first page of response tweets

I'll be more politic:

I watched as his campaign then got on the ground and instructed their team in Iowa to spread misinformation about Elizabeth Warren, Medicare for All, free public college, and more.

— McKenzie “still not here bc of men at all" Burton (@mck_n_cheetos) March 6, 2020

Canvassing is good. More grounding than just sending texts into the ether or posting online. When we hit a suburb in Reno, we very quickly realized you could tell the number and the size of the dog(s) that borked at you from inside an empty house when you rang the bell.

I recommend it to folks. Any IRL organizing is far healthier than arguing about politics online

It reminds you that all of us need to learn Spanish better. I was able to use my garbage Spanglish at one apartment in NV to remind them about caucusing the next day

This would be what you're looking for?

So... you're talking about Pete's campaign, but you're just going to let everybody in your replies think you're talking about Sanders' campaign??

Seem a little disingenuous. pic.twitter.com/RIiiH4a0mk

— Troy Rudd - Bernie Brothers, LLC., CGO (@troyrudd) March 7, 2020

kingfish should be the only person allowed to post in this thread until Tuesday, mods please tempban everyone else

Seconded

Do you realize you’re just talking to yourself?

― El Tomboto, Saturday, 7 March 2020 06:30 (four hours ago) link

Thought you knew that's how the left roll